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Re: Port Adelaide 2015

Postby RustyCage » Wed Oct 07, 2015 6:35 pm

Happy to read the Butch is here for another year
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Re: Port Adelaide 2015

Postby Dutchy » Wed Oct 07, 2015 6:40 pm

valleys07 wrote:Tredders now reporting that Richmond have tabled their first rounder for Lobbe.

Geez, I would seriously consider that trade..

Edit- In saying that, it would be dangerous given WADA's challenge against the Essendon verdict..


You would be crazy not to take a 1st rounder for him.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2015

Postby Dutchy » Wed Oct 07, 2015 6:41 pm

Booney wrote:
Dutchy wrote:Then again is David McKay can get 4 years, then Hartlett does deserve 6!


Splitting hairs, but it was 5 for Hartlett, was already locked in for next year.


Understand that but they have committed him for the next 6 by extending
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Re: Port Adelaide 2015

Postby Mr Beefy » Wed Oct 07, 2015 7:08 pm

Jim05 wrote:Butcher re-signed :D

Should have given Stevie J a year instead, obviously butcher was cheaper
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Re: Port Adelaide 2015

Postby Chuck Wepner » Wed Oct 07, 2015 8:10 pm

RustyCage wrote:Happy to read the Butch is here for another year

I reckon Chad Cornes would be also.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2015

Postby Spargo » Wed Oct 07, 2015 9:23 pm

RustyCage wrote:Happy to read the Butch is here for another year

Convince yourself before trying it on us :lol:
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Re: Port Adelaide 2015

Postby valleys07 » Wed Oct 07, 2015 9:32 pm

Dutchy wrote:
valleys07 wrote:Tredders now reporting that Richmond have tabled their first rounder for Lobbe.

Geez, I would seriously consider that trade..

Edit- In saying that, it would be dangerous given WADA's challenge against the Essendon verdict..


You would be crazy not to take a 1st rounder for him.


That's the conundrum.

Part of me says take it and run- especially given the likely depreciation in market value if he was to spend a majority of 2016 in the SANFL. The other half says keep him for insurance in case Ryder gets reamed by WADA.

Could be a moot argument anyway as PAFC GM of footy, Chris Davies, has come out saying they are not entertaining the thought of trading him. Lobbe's manager, Michael Dowedy, also confirmed that he is not seeking a trade elsewhere.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2015

Postby Dutchy » Wed Oct 07, 2015 10:35 pm

Port are going to be very top heavy with talls if they keep him, presuming they get Dixon, just resigned Shultz and Butcher.

A 1st rounder for Lobbe would assist the picks they have given away for Ryder and presumably Dixon.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2015

Postby Booney » Thu Oct 08, 2015 8:38 am

Spargo wrote:
RustyCage wrote:Happy to read the Butch is here for another year

Convince yourself before trying it on us :lol:


Was always going to happen once Shaw and Harvey were delisted for not making the cut. How does it make them feel about themselves? :lol:

He'd be on very low coin, very low I would think. Still 6 figures, but very low in football terms.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2015

Postby bennymacca » Thu Oct 08, 2015 10:25 am

Dutchy wrote:Port are going to be very top heavy with talls if they keep him, presuming they get Dixon, just resigned Shultz and Butcher.

A 1st rounder for Lobbe would assist the picks they have given away for Ryder and presumably Dixon.


They have a lot of tall forward/utility types but only lobbe and Ryder as genuine ruck options
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Re: Port Adelaide 2015

Postby Booney » Thu Oct 08, 2015 10:45 am

bennymacca wrote:
Dutchy wrote:Port are going to be very top heavy with talls if they keep him, presuming they get Dixon, just resigned Shultz and Butcher.

A 1st rounder for Lobbe would assist the picks they have given away for Ryder and presumably Dixon.


They have a lot of tall forward/utility types but only lobbe and Ryder as genuine ruck options


I've got a lot of time for a kid called Billy Frampton who is at SANFL level. He's 200cm and 90kg's. He's got some real old school mongrel about him, but having said that, he's a long way off being capable back up at AFL level.

I'd be surprised if we let Lobbe go and I think with no sub next year more and more sides will play two ruckman, especially if one, like Ryder, is a capable forward.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2015

Postby bennymacca » Thu Oct 08, 2015 10:49 am

Booney wrote:
bennymacca wrote:
Dutchy wrote:Port are going to be very top heavy with talls if they keep him, presuming they get Dixon, just resigned Shultz and Butcher.

A 1st rounder for Lobbe would assist the picks they have given away for Ryder and presumably Dixon.


They have a lot of tall forward/utility types but only lobbe and Ryder as genuine ruck options


I've got a lot of time for a kid called Billy Frampton who is at SANFL level. He's 200cm and 90kg's. He's got some real old school mongrel about him, but having said that, he's a long way off being capable back up at AFL level.

I'd be surprised if we let Lobbe go and I think with no sub next year more and more sides will play two ruckman, especially if one, like Ryder, is a capable forward.


The problem is, does Dixon Schulz westhoff and Ryder all fit into the one forward line?
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Re: Port Adelaide 2015

Postby MW » Thu Oct 08, 2015 10:57 am

Westhoff doesnt need to play forward. The other three do (when not rucking for Ryder). Also with no sub, one of these would be on the bench always
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Re: Port Adelaide 2015

Postby Booney » Thu Oct 08, 2015 11:05 am

Yes and no.

I can see Dixon playing deep with Schulz up the ground, I think you'll find Westhoff might play high half forward / wing. Might even run in the midfield rotations at 6' 10".

Ryder will lead the ruck, get chop out from Lobbe ( if we play two ) or Westhoff / Dixon and go forward.

Schulz is good at ground level with tackling and pressure so he's not a typical tall forward and he's more lead up instead of pack mark so playing "up" a little might suit him.

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Re: Port Adelaide 2015

Postby Booney » Thu Oct 08, 2015 11:06 am

MW wrote:Westhoff doesnt need to play forward. The other three do (when not rucking for Ryder). Also with no sub, one of these would be on the bench always


Correct, Ryder, Westhoff, Schulz, Lobbe, Dixon.

One rucking, one resting, 2 playing forward one up the ground.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2015

Postby bennymacca » Thu Oct 08, 2015 11:23 am

Booney wrote:
MW wrote:Westhoff doesnt need to play forward. The other three do (when not rucking for Ryder). Also with no sub, one of these would be on the bench always


Correct, Ryder, Westhoff, Schulz, Lobbe, Dixon.

One rucking, one resting, 2 playing forward one up the ground.


I think its a liability to 100% always have a ruck on the bench, and even without the sub rule I dont see many clubs doing this if they dont already. The crows for instance arent going to bring in a ruck.

Every second ruck has to have a spot forward these days imo.

Westhoff is your link man, so thats fine.

Schulz can go up the ground, but that still leaves Dixon and the resting ruck down forward, and that is where it is too top heavy.

Given you have Dixon, Westhoff and Trengove that can all pinch hit in the ruck if required, port are probably the least likely to play two rucks next year imo. Reckon only one of Ryder and Lobbe gets a gig - or maybe even Schulz gets dropped
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Re: Port Adelaide 2015

Postby BoundaryRider84 » Thu Oct 08, 2015 11:34 am

bennymacca wrote:
Booney wrote:
MW wrote:Westhoff doesnt need to play forward. The other three do (when not rucking for Ryder). Also with no sub, one of these would be on the bench always


Correct, Ryder, Westhoff, Schulz, Lobbe, Dixon.

One rucking, one resting, 2 playing forward one up the ground.


I think its a liability to 100% always have a ruck on the bench, and even without the sub rule I dont see many clubs doing this if they dont already. The crows for instance arent going to bring in a ruck.

Every second ruck has to have a spot forward these days imo.

Westhoff is your link man, so thats fine.

Schulz can go up the ground, but that still leaves Dixon and the resting ruck down forward, and that is where it is too top heavy.

Given you have Dixon, Westhoff and Trengove that can all pinch hit in the ruck if required, port are probably the least likely to play two rucks next year imo. Reckon only one of Ryder and Lobbe gets a gig - or maybe even Schulz gets dropped


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Re: Port Adelaide 2015

Postby Booney » Thu Oct 08, 2015 11:54 am

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Re: Port Adelaide 2015

Postby Rik E Boy » Thu Oct 08, 2015 12:44 pm

Jim05 wrote:Butcher re-signed :D


Great move :lol:
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Re: Port Adelaide 2015

Postby Rik E Boy » Thu Oct 08, 2015 12:45 pm

Booney wrote:Funny how basically nobody who plays in the competition is rated on this site. :lol:


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