Para Districts Cricket Association 2010-11

[OKC!]

I HAVE A SOLUTION!!!!!!!!

Grade 1 final this year to be umpired by Merki & Gunnerson!!

I'd love to, but I'll be playing. Thanks for thinking of me though.

Anytime... cant see you giving any LBW's to stama tho if R&C did make it!

Where you playing?

[OKC!]

Doesn't bother me playing second fiddle from time to time. Gunnerson has some good points though. Just because no one from OTH agrees with him, why is he wrong? I agree that the boys from up the hill tend to be a bit precious, and OKC who cares what you did last year, it's what your not doing now that's important.

Last year is gone mate, and I would love to make more runs like that..

The only reason that the boys from OTH seem 'precious' is because the major talking points on this forum have been about OTH and we are backing our mates and our club.

Gunnerson doesn't have any good points at all... he is a has been who likes to stir trouble. Just ask him.

[SS Minnow]

I also heard there was a ball bowled off the pitch on the grass that wasnt called a no ball, he said it was passed the crease line when it hit the grass

His first excuse was that the Batter covered it by walking over to where it pitched, and therefore not being a wide... when we asked why it wasn't a no ball off the pitch.... he then said that it bounced after the crease. The ball was a half volley.

As I have said before on here they are employed by the PDCA so the PDCA should be the ones who have control. I could see the umpires being like the union there way or the highway. Grade 1 seem to get the same umpires each week. How many official umpires are there at the moment. I know some will not be up to the challenge but I think they could do a better job than the umps we have. By far the best umpire we have had would have been super. Great bloke and has played cricket this century.
Do umpires have to go through retaining at all after they complete their umpires course or do they train on better ways to move around to get into position, Their concentration levels and so forth. We as players train to make our game better maybe the umpires should be made to do courses to keep their jobs.
I also think that us players should have a players committee so we can express things from a playing level not from a club prospective. I know there would be a few things that I would like to bring forward between players without the PDCA and umpires being involved.

OCK: The no ball of the pitch was a disgrace we all know that. 4 or 5 LBW's were passed down. The run out there was no hope of Fanta being given out as Merlin was still getting into position to make the call and wasn’t even looking at the time.

[Lightning McQueen]

Amos, Merlin
Aylward, David
Brown, Frank
Brown, Rodger
Cox, Ian
Economou, Peter
Eldridge, Robert S
HARRISON, LES
Jeffery, Terry
Martin, Andrew
McMurtrie, Anthony
Pearce, Don
Serbert, Shane
Taylor, Alf
Turnbull, Peter

[SS Minnow]

Amos, Merlin
Aylward, David
Brown, Frank
Brown, Rodger
Cox, Ian
Economou, Peter
Eldridge, Robert S
HARRISON, LES
Jeffery, Terry
Martin, Andrew
McMurtrie, Anthony
Pearce, Don
Serbert, Shane
Taylor, Alf
Turnbull, Peter

You cannot be serious. We have seen maybe 6 out of the 13 umpires in the last 4 years. Also another umpire that I think does a great job is Mr Terry Jeffery. Top bloke and had a really good game when he had RC vs AV

[Lightning McQueen]

Amos, Merlin
Aylward, David
Brown, Frank
Brown, Rodger
Cox, Ian
Economou, Peter
Eldridge, Robert S
HARRISON, LES
Jeffery, Terry
Martin, Andrew
McMurtrie, Anthony
Pearce, Don
Serbert, Shane
Taylor, Alf
Turnbull, Peter

You cannot be serious. We have seen maybe 6 out of the 13 umpires in the last 4 years. Also another umpire that I think does a great job is Mr Terry Jeffery. Top bloke and had a really good game when he had RC vs AV

Yes, Terry is a great umpire, very approachable and not to scared to admit if he may have made an error. There are at least 7 on there that we'd be happy to see on any given Saturday.

[Gunnerson]

Doesn't bother me playing second fiddle from time to time. Gunnerson has some good points though. Just because no one from OTH agrees with him, why is he wrong? I agree that the boys from up the hill tend to be a bit precious, and OKC who cares what you did last year, it's what your not doing now that's important.

Last year is gone mate, and I would love to make more runs like that..

The only reason that the boys from OTH seem 'precious' is because the major talking points on this forum have been about OTH and we are backing our mates and our club.

Gunnerson doesn't have any good points at all... he is a has been who likes to stir trouble. Just ask him.

I havnt made any good points? You have got to be kidding yourself? Apart from a bit of trolling my points have been valid, OTH are in the news because of what some players have done mid season, you are in the news for bagging umpires and not having the best year yourself and smithy is in the news for just agreeing and laughing at everything you say.

[OKC!]

As I have said before on here they are employed by the PDCA so the PDCA should be the ones who have control. I could see the umpires being like the union there way or the highway. Grade 1 seem to get the same umpires each week. How many official umpires are there at the moment. I know some will not be up to the challenge but I think they could do a better job than the umps we have. By far the best umpire we have had would have been super. Great bloke and has played cricket this century.
Do umpires have to go through retaining at all after they complete their umpires course or do they train on better ways to move around to get into position, Their concentration levels and so forth. We as players train to make our game better maybe the umpires should be made to do courses to keep their jobs.
I also think that us players should have a players committee so we can express things from a playing level not from a club prospective. I know there would be a few things that I would like to bring forward between players without the PDCA and umpires being involved.

OCK: The no ball of the pitch was a disgrace we all know that. 4 or 5 LBW's were passed down. The run out there was no hope of Fanta being given out as Merlin was still getting into position to make the call and wasn’t even looking at the time.

I have put at least 5 serious reports about an umpire in, in my time in outdoor cricket.

During the game, i did not say a word to them about the level of their umpiring.. Never have i heard of anything being done about any of them, and i have regularly seen or heard of those umpires umpiring the next week or the following weeks. Are these taken seriously. Does anyone read them and think that a punishment or a lower grade is worthwhile? Doubt it, instead there is nothing done and the frustration continues to grow.

If the shoe is on the other foot and we are reported for bad behavior or abuse towards an umpire, we get rubbed out for a couple, while the incompetent person is free to umpire the next game. There is no justice in reporting them for bad work. If the umpires are not controlled byt he PDCA, then they should take control at the mid way point of the year, cant be hard for someone to coordinate the umpires schedules. Even record some data, like scores out of 10 for performance in categories (LBA, wides, general knowledge etc) and then schedule them accordingly.

[OKC!]

Doesn't bother me playing second fiddle from time to time. Gunnerson has some good points though. Just because no one from OTH agrees with him, why is he wrong? I agree that the boys from up the hill tend to be a bit precious, and OKC who cares what you did last year, it's what your not doing now that's important.

Last year is gone mate, and I would love to make more runs like that..

The only reason that the boys from OTH seem 'precious' is because the major talking points on this forum have been about OTH and we are backing our mates and our club.

Gunnerson doesn't have any good points at all... he is a has been who likes to stir trouble. Just ask him.

I havnt made any good points? You have got to be kidding yourself? Apart from a bit of trolling my points have been valid, OTH are in the news because of what some players have done mid season, you are in the news for bagging umpires and not having the best year yourself and smithy is in the news for just agreeing and laughing at everything you say.

No you haven't.

[interested observer]

Amos, Merlin
Aylward, David
Brown, Frank
Brown, Rodger
Cox, Ian
Economou, Peter
Eldridge, Robert S
HARRISON, LES
Jeffery, Terry
Martin, Andrew
McMurtrie, Anthony
Pearce, Don
Serbert, Shane
Taylor, Alf
Turnbull, Peter

Everytime I run in to this bloke at the pub, all he talks about is how good some bloke called Ben Stamatovich is !!!!
I hope he does not get too many Rose and Crown games....

[SS Minnow]

Amos, Merlin
Aylward, David
Brown, Frank
Brown, Rodger
Cox, Ian
Economou, Peter
Eldridge, Robert S
HARRISON, LES
Jeffery, Terry
Martin, Andrew
McMurtrie, Anthony
Pearce, Don
Serbert, Shane
Taylor, Alf
Turnbull, Peter

Everytime I run in to this bloke at the pub, all he talks about is how good some bloke called Ben Stamatovich is !!!!
I hope he does not get too many Rose and Crown games....

Could be the 3rd Mckenzie for Stama then. R&C went from having 0 McKenzie's to 6 in one season. Boomber 3, Stama 2 and Rus 1

[sports follower]

Amos, Merlin
Aylward, David
Brown, Frank
Brown, Rodger
Cox, Ian
Economou, Peter
Eldridge, Robert S
HARRISON, LES
Jeffery, Terry
Martin, Andrew
McMurtrie, Anthony
Pearce, Don
Serbert, Shane
Taylor, Alf
Turnbull, Peter

You cannot be serious. We have seen maybe 6 out of the 13 umpires in the last 4 years. Also another umpire that I think does a great job is Mr Terry Jeffery. Top bloke and had a really good game when he had RC vs AV

Yes, Terry is a great umpire, very approachable and not to scared to admit if he may have made an error. There are at least 7 on there that we'd be happy to see on any given Saturday.

Totally agree Terry is probably the best umpire we have had this season. We have had him twice and both times he has been exceptional in Grade 2. He surely must be in the best 4 umpires in PDCA but he is not one of the older guys so maybe doesnt get a grade 1 game every week.
I agree there are a few older umpires who always seem to umpire grade 1, I thought Alf was going to retire about 2 seasons ago. I think there needs to be some changes but how many retired players want to go out and umpire and cop abuse in the lower grades by players.
I think the PDCA should actively try and recruits some older players who maybe in the twilight of their playing days.
Imagine Catchit out there umpiring and a player tries to sledge him, he will give back better than what gets served up most of the time.

[fineleg2fineleg]

Saw the legendary Merlin on the weekend, and I have to tell you, he made my blood boil.

To have someone in this comp (and grade) that in no better words, is a complete waste of space is frustrating.

Lets do something about it.

What is the point in coming out every week and playing in the top grade of PDCA to have a guy that cant see less than 30cm from his face without taking his sunglasses off.

On the weekend we were VERY lucky not to have about 3 or 4 LBW's against us, and we had a run out (my fault ) given not out when fanta was about 1 meter out... and i was down the other end and saw it clearly, Merlin was less than a meter from it.

What can we do? Ill get every persons signature that plays over the rest of the season and put it forward to the PDCA committee, I don't care!

I also heard there was a ball bowled off the pitch on the grass that wasnt called a no ball, he said it was passed the crease line when it hit the grass

in the OTH Bs V Craigmore game Merlin was umpiring. he managed to let a bowler from craigmore bowl a 9 ball over, and there was 2 7 ball overs in that innings also. the 9 ball over was stopped by the scorers... merlin was about to allow the bowler to keep bowling as he was already at his mark by the time the scorers shouted out. i also bowled a ball off the pitch (which those who know me wud know this is an extremely rare event )which hit the edge of the concrete missing the matting. merlin didnt call anythin. Gunnerson is chattin his usual bullsh!t talkin about people having a bad day but obviously there are many bad reports about merlins umpiring coming through... this is not a one off, its a trend

[Grahaml]

Had a lower grade umpire a few weeks ago, was scoring and in the first 20 overs he'd called a 5 ball over and 2 7 ball overs. Drinks were called at the fall of a wicket in the 20th, on the 4th ball of the over and when he came off we mentioned he'd called a couple of 7 ball overs and suggested since square leg has a counter he just check they both have the same count on their counters. He was all apologetic and said it was a great idea. Went out again after drinks and instead of letting the bowler bowl 2 balls before calling over, he bowled 3 for another 7 ball over! Even one of the batsmen questioned perhaps that the over was done after 2. Reckon overall he called maybe 7 or 8 overs wrong.

Grade 1 game at Salisbury West was a PG player throw the ball in towards the keeper which hit the edge of the pitch and bounced away from the fielders, the batsmen looking for runs as overs run down take off for a run, with a second on offer and promptly get told because the ball hit the edge of the pitch it would be called dead. Some of the mistakes the umpires make are extraordinary. Not seeing a fine edge on an LBW, not hearing an edge through to the keeper, anyone can get those wrong from time to time. But some of the errors made and even simple rules not known/enforced should simply never happen. Official umpires should be there to enhance the game and make it fairer. Having to umpire yourself is less than ideal, but in many cases now it's actually unfair to have an official simply because they are so often so poor. And having to pay some of them for what they do just makes it worse.

[sports follower]

Amos, Merlin
Aylward, David
Brown, Frank
Brown, Rodger
Cox, Ian
Economou, Peter
Eldridge, Robert S
HARRISON, LES
Jeffery, Terry
Martin, Andrew
McMurtrie, Anthony
Pearce, Don
Serbert, Shane
Taylor, Alf
Turnbull, Peter

Lets face up to it, its an old boys club and they get their nose out of joint when some young buck in his forties or younger jump up the grades too quickly. We had Norm Tonkin for a couple of years and he apparently won umpire of the year but never received his medal as he was to new or yiung to win such an award.
I reckon these guys in bold should be in grade 1 predominately.
Then there are some guys who should not umpire the under 11s.

[SmithyOTH]

Doesn't bother me playing second fiddle from time to time. Gunnerson has some good points though. Just because no one from OTH agrees with him, why is he wrong? I agree that the boys from up the hill tend to be a bit precious, and OKC who cares what you did last year, it's what your not doing now that's important.

Last year is gone mate, and I would love to make more runs like that..

The only reason that the boys from OTH seem 'precious' is because the major talking points on this forum have been about OTH and we are backing our mates and our club.

Gunnerson doesn't have any good points at all... he is a has been who likes to stir trouble. Just ask him.

I havnt made any good points? You have got to be kidding yourself? Apart from a bit of trolling my points have been valid, OTH are in the news because of what some players have done mid season, you are in the news for bagging umpires and not having the best year yourself and smithy is in the news for just agreeing and laughing at everything you say.

yay, i got a mention.

[Thats Gold]

Amos, Merlin
Aylward, David
Brown, Frank
Brown, Rodger
Cox, Ian
Economou, Peter
Eldridge, Robert S
HARRISON, LES
Jeffery, Terry
Martin, Andrew
McMurtrie, Anthony
Pearce, Don
Serbert, Shane
Taylor, Alf
Turnbull, Peter

Lets face up to it, its an old boys club and they get their nose out of joint when some young buck in his forties or younger jump up the grades too quickly. We had Norm Tonkin for a couple of years and he apparently won umpire of the year but never received his medal as he was to new or yiung to win such an award.
I reckon these guys in bold should be in grade 1 predominately.
Then there are some guys who should not umpire the under 11s.

Spot on! maybe throw in Les Harrison also.

[catchit]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZaQlulqFxqw&feature=player_embedded

Nice shot!

Is this in the new clubrooms? Looks good...

What time of the night was this? Looks like most are still in their whites!!?

yep the clubrooms are very good it was prob around 9ish...we keep our whites on mate..your not suit and tie down at the lodge surely?

[catchit]

Amos, Merlin
Aylward, David
Brown, Frank
Brown, Rodger
Cox, Ian
Economou, Peter
Eldridge, Robert S
HARRISON, LES
Jeffery, Terry
Martin, Andrew
McMurtrie, Anthony
Pearce, Don
Serbert, Shane
Taylor, Alf
Turnbull, Peter

Everytime I run in to this bloke at the pub, all he talks about is how good some bloke called Ben Stamatovich is !!!!
I hope he does not get too many Rose and Crown games....

I will go on record to say...alf is the best umpire in the comp Only had him once so surely due for a couple after xmas...

[Thats Gold]

Would OTH be happy McNair is playing with them? Selfish looking cricketer, comes in at 4/68 and appeared to bat for himself, dropped on zero by the midget behind the stumps and scratched out an ordinary looking 4! Someone should have told him the TTG selectors weren't out there watching him today, and prob lucky for him they weren't Bloke looked like he was playing for the rain, batted with no real intent.

Guys just out of form, and he knows it. He came in at at time today where we needed him to bat to the end so he had is head down and it just didnt work out again for him. We are happy to have him anytime he can play.

Perhaps he should be dropped to the B Grade in order to hit some form. Looks like OTH's B's could definately do with a batsman given the leading run scorer is on just over 100.