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Re: Port Pirie Cricket Association 2011/12

Postby Squids » Thu Oct 20, 2011 10:46 pm

IPL

Props v Sollies ------Props way too strong for a young Sollies team
Wandearah v Risdon ---- Close game but going for Risdon, Wandies probably have some cobwebs after not playing yet


Champions League

Port Germein v Strykers --- Port Germein will win if they can dismiss Strykers key wickets early
Solomontown v Warnertown -- 50/50 game will go with Warnertown who played last week
Props v Southport --- Both quality sides but expect Southport to be rusty so Props to win
Risdon v Wandearah -- No idea on the Wandies side but would have to expect Risdon to win
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Re: Port Pirie Cricket Association 2011/12

Postby PPLions » Fri Oct 21, 2011 9:23 am

The key questions in Port Pirie cricket this week:
Will the inclement weather see the return of senior cricket to Pirie West Oval?
Where has the outspoken straight talker gone?
Will Risdon have to wait for the Surf Report before selecting its Final 11?
Has any team bought a blower vac yet?
Have Police caught the graffiti vandals who desecrated Complex 1?
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Re: Port Pirie Cricket Association 2011/12

Postby bigstack » Fri Oct 21, 2011 10:40 am

PPLions wrote:The key questions in Port Pirie cricket this week:
Will the inclement weather see the return of senior cricket to Pirie West Oval?
Where has the outspoken straight talker gone?
Will Risdon have to wait for the Surf Report before selecting its Final 11?
Has any team bought a blower vac yet?
Have Police caught the graffiti vandals who desecrated Complex 1?


Are you serious about graffiti vandals ? If so can you enlighten us all on what they have done ?

Any reports about the Nyrstar sponsorship ?

Will any clubs be dirty if changes in ovals cost them a game because of the weather ?

Have we had enough rain to cancel turf games ?
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Re: Port Pirie Cricket Association 2011/12

Postby Go the greens » Fri Oct 21, 2011 11:09 am

Are you serious about graffiti vandals ? If so can you enlighten us all on what they have done ? Don't know, is this some Risdon code code for something or was it graffiti?
Any reports about the Nyrstar sponsorship ? I have heard they have no interest in it so no
Will any clubs be dirty if changes in ovals cost them a game because of the weather ? Not from us but yes that is the drawback of Turf cricket :(
Have we had enough rain to cancel turf games ? Not yet I hope!
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Re: Port Pirie Cricket Association 2011/12

Postby PPLions » Fri Oct 21, 2011 11:10 am

Are you serious about graffiti vandals ? If so can you enlighten us all on what they have done ?

Any reports about the Nyrstar sponsorship ?

Will any clubs be dirty if changes in ovals cost them a game because of the weather ?

Have we had enough rain to cancel turf games ?


There was some graffiti written on the actual concrete end of the pitch. I think it has been cleaned off now.

I dont think anyone has heard back about the Nyrstar sponsorship yet unfortunatey.

There is a PPCA Meeting Tuesday next week to talk about the programme so hopefully we have an update then.

Im guessing you are referring to Risdon's B Grade game moving to Port Oval and maybe being cancelled due to the weather.
Risdon and Wandies have the option of playing at Pirie West so the game should go ahead there weather permitting if the turf is too wet.
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Re: Port Pirie Cricket Association 2011/12

Postby Squids » Fri Oct 21, 2011 12:09 pm

Cruising down Wandearah Road earlier and I noticed that there is a cover over the pith and with the SCG like drainage Port Oval has then barring any heavy rain, games should go ahead tomorrow.
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Re: Port Pirie Cricket Association 2011/12

Postby AD » Sat Oct 22, 2011 3:35 pm

Isn't it great to see teams play cricket?

Well done to Wandies and Risdon B grade for coming to a solution and playing at Pirie West when Port Oval was unable to be played on in the morning. Both teams just want to play cricket. And a big hand to the umpire for agreeing and doing what he is supposed to do and umpire cricket.

But an even bigger shout out to Strykers and Port Germein, who carried on and played their game even though the umpire didn't want a bar of it. Both teams just wanted to play cricket. And they did. Without an umpire. The players were happy with the field, and it's not like the umpire had to bat on the pitch or run through the outfield! But hey, some people need to make big decisions to feel relevant.
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Re: Port Pirie Cricket Association 2011/12

Postby AD » Sat Oct 22, 2011 3:38 pm

For the record, Risdon B grade easily accounted for Wandearah. Top score Cornflour Congdon with a half ton, and another quality red-ink AD innings spoilt by lack of partners and overs at the end. Matthew "Terry Alderman/Len Pascoe/Special" Kennedy bowling well for the Tigers.
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Re: Port Pirie Cricket Association 2011/12

Postby bigstack » Sat Oct 22, 2011 7:58 pm

AD wrote:Isn't it great to see teams play cricket?

Well done to Wandies and Risdon B grade for coming to a solution and playing at Pirie West when Port Oval was unable to be played on in the morning. Both teams just want to play cricket. And a big hand to the umpire for agreeing and doing what he is supposed to do and umpire cricket.

But an even bigger shout out to Strykers and Port Germein, who carried on and played their game even though the umpire didn't want a bar of it. Both teams just wanted to play cricket. And they did. Without an umpire. The players were happy with the field, and it's not like the umpire had to bat on the pitch or run through the outfield! But hey, some people need to make big decisions to feel relevant.


A week or so ago some one suggested we should check the rules before making comments on what happens on game day. AD should get Lachy to provide him with a rule book. I obtained one and it tells me the umpire only, makes the decision and the two captains can if there is no umpire. It is simple, a none issue. The game should not have been played, totally irresponsible. What if a player had been injured badly. The officials have got no choice but to back the umpire and both teams should be told they had a practice match only. AD needs to decide if the assoc should have rules and if they should apply them. I am also informed that it is the clubs themselves that put these rules in, so AD should get his club to change the rule. If your last comment is referring to the umpire it reflects more on you than him. The fellow is only doing what he has to under the rules.
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Re: Port Pirie Cricket Association 2011/12

Postby AD » Sat Oct 22, 2011 8:49 pm

bigstack wrote:A week or so ago some one suggested we should check the rules before making comments on what happens on game day. AD should get Lachy to provide him with a rule book. I obtained one and it tells me the umpire only, makes the decision and the two captains can if there is no umpire. It is simple, a none issue. The game should not have been played, totally irresponsible. What if a player had been injured badly. The officials have got no choice but to back the umpire and both teams should be told they had a practice match only. AD needs to decide if the assoc should have rules and if they should apply them. I am also informed that it is the clubs themselves that put these rules in, so AD should get his club to change the rule. If your last comment is referring to the umpire it reflects more on you than him. The fellow is only doing what he has to under the rules.


These rules are obviously not clear enough. Southport vs Props in the first week was called off at the whim of one of the teams, not the umpire. So who has the say? the teams or the umpire?

Fair play to Strykers and Port Germein for letting their players have a game. If Germein have their points taken away, so be it. At least the kids got a bat and bowl.
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Re: Port Pirie Cricket Association 2011/12

Postby Squids » Sat Oct 22, 2011 9:18 pm

Isn't there an option of signing something that said the assoc. has no liability if anyone gets hurts? Either way...whats going to happen on a wet pitch that ISN'T slippery....same danger as any other week imo.

Either way I don't care as said umpire does not want to umpire as anymore.
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Re: Port Pirie Cricket Association 2011/12

Postby bigstack » Sat Oct 22, 2011 10:20 pm

AD wrote:
bigstack wrote:A week or so ago some one suggested we should check the rules before making comments on what happens on game day. AD should get Lachy to provide him with a rule book. I obtained one and it tells me the umpire only, makes the decision and the two captains can if there is no umpire. It is simple, a none issue. The game should not have been played, totally irresponsible. What if a player had been injured badly. The officials have got no choice but to back the umpire and both teams should be told they had a practice match only. AD needs to decide if the assoc should have rules and if they should apply them. I am also informed that it is the clubs themselves that put these rules in, so AD should get his club to change the rule. If your last comment is referring to the umpire it reflects more on you than him. The fellow is only doing what he has to under the rules.


These rules are obviously not clear enough. Southport vs Props in the first week was called off at the whim of one of the teams, not the umpire. So who has the say? the teams or the umpire?

Fair play to Strykers and Port Germein for letting their players have a game. If Germein have their points taken away, so be it. At least the kids got a bat and bowl.


The rule is very clear, in one word. UMPIRE. If what you say is correct about a game being called off on the whim of a team, then that team should have been in bother with the assoc officials. That many conflicting stories on that game it is difficult to tell who is telling the truth. I do agree that the assoc should get its act together, this must be making the kids look to tennis or softball.
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Re: Port Pirie Cricket Association 2011/12

Postby bigstack » Sat Oct 22, 2011 10:31 pm

Squids wrote:Isn't there an option of signing something that said the assoc. has no liability if anyone gets hurts? Either way...whats going to happen on a wet pitch that ISN'T slippery....same danger as any other week imo.

Either way I don't care as said umpire does not want to umpire as anymore.


One slight difference maybe is one is an official game conducted under the rules of the assoc while the other game becomes a non official game because the two teams defied the ruling of the umpire appointed by the assoc. I'm not an insurance man but if some one got hurt and made a claim i would think the insurance company would question why the game was played if it had been cancelled by the umpire.

Pity the assoc loses an umpire for simply doing his job. Financially it's in his best interests to play i would think, i doubt if they get paid for a non game. Or do they?
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Re: Port Pirie Cricket Association 2011/12

Postby Squids » Sat Oct 22, 2011 11:35 pm

If the pitch isn't slippery? Whats wrong with it if it is a little wet? The two teams obviously thought it was okay to play on...I am sure they would have accessed the risk to their players....signed the insurance waiver and played.

Who is raising the issue? Is it Strykers or from elsewhere?
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Re: Port Pirie Cricket Association 2011/12

Postby bigstack » Sun Oct 23, 2011 10:41 am

Squids wrote:If the pitch isn't slippery? Whats wrong with it if it is a little wet? The two teams obviously thought it was okay to play on...I am sure they would have accessed the risk to their players....signed the insurance waiver and played.

Who is raising the issue? Is it Strykers or from elsewhere?


First point get a rule book and read it. Secondly it doesn't matter what the teams say, once the players are at the ground the UMPIRE is in control.It's in the rule book who calls the game off. Only guessing but i suspect once you affiliate with any club or association you agree to play under the rules that apply. Insurance waiver? Any issue loses validity once people start asking "who", you should concentrate on the issues and the rules that apply to that issue, in this instance one simple word. UMPIRE. Ask your club or assoc officials or some one who may be able to make it clear, i do and most can help out.

Any news over the weekend on other problems? Is there a secretary yet? Off to church, hope there is some good news around the corner. Looks like the weather(rain) is around again next week
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Re: Port Pirie Cricket Association 2011/12

Postby Squids » Sun Oct 23, 2011 11:34 am

Well if someone could enlighten me as to where I can get the rules from I would have a look.

Where is the board...shouldn't they be out there sorting out the mess that Pirie cricket has been in the opening few weeks?


Still stand by my call as if it isn't slippery and the ball bounces, why not play. Same 'risk' as any other week.
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Re: Port Pirie Cricket Association 2011/12

Postby AD » Sun Oct 23, 2011 11:51 am

Squids wrote:I just find it interesting..the only two games this umpire has been assigned to have been the only two games to be called off during the year, are all the other umpires wrong? . Said umpire is just trying to cause shit, plain and simple.


Credit to him- he wasn't the one to call off the Southport vs Props A grade game. But I bet he'd like to have been.
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Re: Port Pirie Cricket Association 2011/12

Postby Squids » Sun Oct 23, 2011 11:53 am

AD wrote:
Squids wrote:I just find it interesting..the only two games this umpire has been assigned to have been the only two games to be called off during the year, are all the other umpires wrong? . Said umpire is just trying to cause shit, plain and simple.


Credit to him- he wasn't the one to call off the Southport vs Props A grade game. But I bet he'd like to have been.


Incorrect being a massive Props fan I think that game would have gone ahead.
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Re: Port Pirie Cricket Association 2011/12

Postby slogging succliffe » Sun Oct 23, 2011 11:59 am

Pirie west oval was used on the weekend and might i say it was a resounding success.

From all reports both teams enjoyed it and i heard rumbling of it being almost better to play on than complex 2. Good to see we have another option in the battle against the weather.

Wandies A grade showed their class with a thumping of Risdon. Risdon Batsmen should take a hard look at themselves and learn to bat their overs out and tough out good bowling.

Warnertown underlined their credentials with a good defeat of last years runners up solomontown, albeit a weaker team than last year. A certain batsmen told me he made a few runs, 45 i believe, and that he is once again in for a big year.

As for the topic of umpires and the ruling on weather a game should play, the umpire should always carry an insurance form and then if the captains want to play let them. Im not saying this is the rule this is my idea of a compromise which would be preferrable to all. I think the key idea here is in B grade, or champions league lol, especially they just want to have a game of cricket. But hey the sooner the weather sorts is self out and gives us summer sunshine the better. Then we can all start complaining about the heat rule haha
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Re: Port Pirie Cricket Association 2011/12

Postby AD » Sun Oct 23, 2011 12:12 pm

slogging succliffe wrote:Pirie west oval was used on the weekend and might i say it was a resounding success.

From all reports both teams enjoyed it and i heard rumbling of it being almost better to play on than complex 2. Good to see we have another option in the battle against the weather.


Was only really one bad bare spot on the oval- on the Terrace side boundary. Cut the rest of the grass a little shorter and get some growth on that patch and the oval would be more than fine. Doesn't help that it has a fair bit of traffic on it during school days with all the Pirie West kids.
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