bye bye Mr Rudd

[smac]

I don't reckon he's got a bag. Certainly got no stones to put in one.

[overloaded]

he has a hand bag

[Grahaml]

In terms of employment there are moer jobs available than workers. The ones left are termed "unemployable" and the government are trying to work out ways of making as many of them attractive employment options as they can.

The reality is any hard working decent employee will be able to use the new laws to their advantage, and thinking you can't simply shows a lack of understanding helped along by the unions advertising. Imagine if the unions did what they're supposed to and helped the employees understand what their rights are instead of looking after their own interests and telling employees they have to bend over and take it from a boss.

I'd like to know whether anyone who took an AWA against their better judgement actually bothered to find out their rights or just trusted the Unions and signed thinking they had no choice.

Quitting somewhere you're not happy at or have no future at is pretty easy actually. Once you realise you only have an obligation to yourself the final decision is an easy one to come to.

[topsywaldron]

I heard him this morning banging on about his trip to the Kukoda track and now I have read this afternoon that he had a heart operation just like Arnie! He's so brave, our Kev.

If you're going to sledge Kev for walking in the steps of people that fought for this country you might as well get the name right.

[smac]

So you've been busy spell checking for people the last couple of weeks mate? No wonder you haven't been around this place.

If you care to actually read the post, you would also understand I was sledging him for banging on about it some 18 months after he went. The fact he went at all had no relevance to my point.

The fact that people who fought for our country also walked the same track is even less relevant. A digger may have stood where your computer now sits as well.

[BIG SEXY]

as an employer the IR reforms have been a godsend, some time ago we had an employee who started off like a house on fire, slowly things dropped off, he turned up at 10-11 and still expected to be paid a 40 hour week, he became slow and uninterested in his job. I approahed him about it and he was very apathetic about the whole situation. i spoke to him about getting another job (knowing i couldnt just give him the ar$e) and he said no he will continue on his way as he has been. i sought legal advice from 3 different avenues, all said i had to give him 2 warnings, then if it continued, offer counselling for x months (i cant remember how many) then give him his 3rd and send him out the door. If labour get in will i be in the same situation again? im all for my employees, we get along great professionally and socially but if the time comes when one needs a boot in the bum i have to have the power to do it. Howard gives me that power, Rudd takes it away. 1 of the reasons my vote is staying with Howard and the coalition.

[stan]

as an employer the IR reforms have been a godsend, some time ago we had an employee who started off like a house on fire, slowly things dropped off, he turned up at 10-11 and still expected to be paid a 40 hour week, he became slow and uninterested in his job. I approahed him about it and he was very apathetic about the whole situation. i spoke to him about getting another job (knowing i couldnt just give him the ar$e) and he said no he will continue on his way as he has been. i sought legal advice from 3 different avenues, all said i had to give him 2 warnings, then if it continued, offer counselling for x months (i cant remember how many) then give him his 3rd and send him out the door. If labour get in will i be in the same situation again? im all for my employees, we get along great professionally and socially but if the time comes when one needs a boot in the bum i have to have the power to do it. Howard gives me that power, Rudd takes it away. 1 of the reasons my vote is staying with Howard and the coalition.

Crush thats a good point. I know of one guy physically threating his manager about something. This guy was a real dope in the proffessional sense. The manager in question was new to the position and didnt really know the guy at this stage. But of course as you would and as I would have fired him. All's well that ends well, not quite employee contacts his union rep at that particular firm and balh blah blah becuase he did not recieve 3 warnings for what he did he could not have been fired. Whe you have a full time position at some places, the only way you will be leaving will be in a wooden box, and that is a problem.

But then on the flip side this power can be and has been abused by employers. I guess you really just need to find that balance.

[Grahaml]

But in the current environment a good employee will just end up somewhere else and probably for more money and/or better conditions so long as they do their homework. Problem is the Unions want people to not know the facts because the unions themselves are threatened. In this case the unions have a conflict of interest but aren't owning up to it.

[stan]

But in the current environment a good employee will just end up somewhere else and probably for more money and/or better conditions so long as they do their homework. Problem is the Unions want people to not know the facts because the unions themselves are threatened. In this case the unions have a conflict of interest but aren't owning up to it.

Well yes but then again it will depend on what industry that you are currently working in and qualifications, experiance etc etc.

[Grahaml]

That is completely false. A good worker is valued even without qualifications. Often the unskilled worker who works his arse off all day every day is the hardest type to find.

[Leaping Lindner]

I'm moving back to Adelaide. Sounds like a worker's paradise at the moment.

[stan]

That is completely false. A good worker is valued even without qualifications. Often the unskilled worker who works his arse off all day every day is the hardest type to find.

Yeah I do see your point.

[smac]

I'm moving back to Adelaide. Sounds like a worker's paradise at the moment.

If you work hard and are good at what you do then yes, it is.

[JK]

I'm moving back to Adelaide. Sounds like a worker's paradise at the moment.

If you work hard and are good at what you do then yes, it is.

Thats right, we're all earning good livings just posting on SAFooty everyday

[smac]

That extends the work hours a little, CP - I'll pay that. I could probably go home at 5 every day if it weren't for this site!

[JK]

That extends the work hours a little, CP - I'll pay that. I could probably go home at 5 every day if it weren't for this site!

LOL I can relate to that

[Psyber]

This seemed to suit this thread. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dXwv4i6I_c

[redden whites]

as an employer the IR reforms have been a godsend, some time ago we had an employee who started off like a house on fire, slowly things dropped off, he turned up at 10-11 and still expected to be paid a 40 hour week, he became slow and uninterested in his job. I approahed him about it and he was very apathetic about the whole situation. i spoke to him about getting another job (knowing i couldnt just give him the ar$e) and he said no he will continue on his way as he has been. i sought legal advice from 3 different avenues, all said i had to give him 2 warnings, then if it continued, offer counselling for x months (i cant remember how many) then give him his 3rd and send him out the door. If labour get in will i be in the same situation again? im all for my employees, we get along great professionally and socially but if the time comes when one needs a boot in the bum i have to have the power to do it. Howard gives me that power, Rudd takes it away. 1 of the reasons my vote is staying with Howard and the coalition.

So he just rolled up when he liked and you paid him for 40 hrs( mmmmm what happened to 38) and you just kept paying him and he said nah I am just gonna keep rolling up when I like. Please when is this one appearing in an ad its a ripper.Maybe you are as weak as piss for not jumping on him day 1.Howard gives me power..enough said

[redden whites]

as an employer the IR reforms have been a godsend, some time ago we had an employee who started off like a house on fire, slowly things dropped off, he turned up at 10-11 and still expected to be paid a 40 hour week, he became slow and uninterested in his job. I approahed him about it and he was very apathetic about the whole situation. i spoke to him about getting another job (knowing i couldnt just give him the ar$e) and he said no he will continue on his way as he has been. i sought legal advice from 3 different avenues, all said i had to give him 2 warnings, then if it continued, offer counselling for x months (i cant remember how many) then give him his 3rd and send him out the door. If labour get in will i be in the same situation again? im all for my employees, we get along great professionally and socially but if the time comes when one needs a boot in the bum i have to have the power to do it. Howard gives me that power, Rudd takes it away. 1 of the reasons my vote is staying with Howard and the coalition.

If ya dont like it leave and start up somewhere else, its that easy according to most posters here .Stop ya whinging and do something to improve your situation ya just need the guts to do it everyone else has.

[mick]

With Youtube almost anyone can create their own political ad. Is this professional or gifted amateur?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPrVxDQ5ziQ