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Re: next dictator to go

Postby PhilG » Sun Dec 31, 2006 4:18 pm

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Postby Dutchy » Sun Dec 31, 2006 4:29 pm

2 seperate issues to debate really....1/ What he has done and 2/ how he is being treated

Isnt he a UK citizen now anyway and they wont help him like they have other UK citizens? Says a bit...

I can understand the givernment not bringing him back here...everyone will be jumping up and down if he gets released back into the public only to blow something/people up...
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Postby Pseudo » Sun Dec 31, 2006 4:44 pm

pafc1870 wrote:There is no worse crime than treason.


So you'll agree when I suggest that the PAFC should have been hanged in August 1990.
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Postby McAlmanac » Sun Dec 31, 2006 4:44 pm

dinglinga wrote:theres a couple of ppl on this site that went to school with david hicks

and his old man was the cricket coach

I have been recently intrigued by this photo from the 1972 season - a Terry Hicks as captain of Ardrossan receiving the Yorke Valley Football League premiership pennant. Judging by recent photos it may be the same one. Can anyone confirm or deny?

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Postby ca » Sun Dec 31, 2006 5:08 pm

pafc1870 wrote:
ca wrote:
pafc1870 wrote:David Hicks


I haven't done any protesting about David Hicks but am slowly getting to that stage. We would not let any other country treat an Australian like that but because its the USA we do. If it was Indonesia there would be outrage at his treatment.

I'm not saying the guy has done nothing wrong and but perhaps he was in the wrong place at the wrong time, maybe he has and should face a penalty, but no one knows because no one can talk to him nor will they trial him to any great extent. Its been going on to long and the Government needs to stop sitting on their hands and do something about it.


Since when has treason become acceptable? The knob was over there, by his choice, to be trained by the Taliban to fight against the Western world. His job was to kill Australians. He was caught. He shouldn't be in jail now, he should have been killed long ago. There is no worse crime than treason. Why should the criminals get treated better than the victims of their actions?

There are many people in jail over there who are still awaiting trial. Why should David Hicks receive any special treatment just because he used to be Australian? You fight for the enemy against Australia, you don't deserve to be called an Australian, and should lose any rights you have as an expat Aussie or Australian tourist overseas. I cannot, for the life of me, understand how people can support that guy. If his name was Mohammed Something, and he was born in and grew up in Australia, you'd all be calling for his head.


You might be right and I think you are but we don't know that in fact no one really does, all you have said is exactly what America have told us. My point and many others is there needs to be a trial to know and it shouldn't take years and years to organise. Its also Australian that you should be allowed a trial, that hasn't happened. As I said if it was in Indonesia everyone would be calling for some kind of justice, but because its America we let it go.
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Postby redandblack » Sun Dec 31, 2006 5:49 pm

McAlmanac wrote:
dinglinga wrote:theres a couple of ppl on this site that went to school with david hicks

and his old man was the cricket coach

I have been recently intrigued by this photo from the 1972 season - a Terry Hicks as captain of Ardrossan receiving the Yorke Valley Football League premiership pennant. Judging by recent photos it may be the same one. Can anyone confirm or deny?

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If it's the same Terry Hicks, I think he might have played football for Sturt Reserves.

Again, if it's the same TH, I played a fair bit of cricket with him in Adelaide & Suburban CA. He was pretty quick.

That all depends on whether it's the same bloke, of course.
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Postby Leaping Lindner » Sun Dec 31, 2006 6:13 pm

pafc1870 wrote:
ca wrote:
pafc1870 wrote:David Hicks


I haven't done any protesting about David Hicks but am slowly getting to that stage. We would not let any other country treat an Australian like that but because its the USA we do. If it was Indonesia there would be outrage at his treatment.

I'm not saying the guy has done nothing wrong and but perhaps he was in the wrong place at the wrong time, maybe he has and should face a penalty, but no one knows because no one can talk to him nor will they trial him to any great extent. Its been going on to long and the Government needs to stop sitting on their hands and do something about it.


Since when has treason become acceptable? The knob was over there, by his choice, to be trained by the Taliban to fight against the Western world. His job was to kill Australians. He was caught. He shouldn't be in jail now, he should have been killed long ago. There is no worse crime than treason. Why should the criminals get treated better than the victims of their actions?

There are many people in jail over there who are still awaiting trial. Why should David Hicks receive any special treatment just because he used to be Australian? You fight for the enemy against Australia, you don't deserve to be called an Australian, and should lose any rights you have as an expat Aussie or Australian tourist overseas. I cannot, for the life of me, understand how people can support that guy. If his name was Mohammed Something, and he was born in and grew up in Australia, you'd all be calling for his head.


How is it treason? When exactly did Australia declare war against Afghanistan?
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Postby Dogwatcher » Sun Dec 31, 2006 6:18 pm

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Postby MagicKiwi » Tue Jan 02, 2007 12:54 pm

pafc1870 wrote:There is no worse crime than treason.


I can think of many. You sound like a yank pafc. :lol:
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Postby MightyEagles » Wed Jan 03, 2007 9:19 am

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Postby mick » Tue Jan 09, 2007 7:08 am

pafc1870 wrote:
ca wrote:
pafc1870 wrote:David Hicks


I haven't done any protesting about David Hicks but am slowly getting to that stage. We would not let any other country treat an Australian like that but because its the USA we do. If it was Indonesia there would be outrage at his treatment.

I'm not saying the guy has done nothing wrong and but perhaps he was in the wrong place at the wrong time, maybe he has and should face a penalty, but no one knows because no one can talk to him nor will they trial him to any great extent. Its been going on to long and the Government needs to stop sitting on their hands and do something about it.


Since when has treason become acceptable? The knob was over there, by his choice, to be trained by the Taliban to fight against the Western world. His job was to kill Australians. He was caught. He shouldn't be in jail now, he should have been killed long ago. There is no worse crime than treason. Why should the criminals get treated better than the victims of their actions?

There are many people in jail over there who are still awaiting trial. Why should David Hicks receive any special treatment just because he used to be Australian? You fight for the enemy against Australia, you don't deserve to be called an Australian, and should lose any rights you have as an expat Aussie or Australian tourist overseas. I cannot, for the life of me, understand how people can support that guy. If his name was Mohammed Something, and he was born in and grew up in Australia, you'd all be calling for his head.


I never thought I'd see the day I'd agree with a Port supporter :wink: My biggest beef with this whole fiasco is that Hicks is being kept in Cuba to avoid the constitional protection he would have in the US. When great democratic powers stoop to use technicalities such as this to circumvent their own justice system, it makes me worry what will come next "to protect our freedom". I would have no problem with him being tried by retrospective legislation in a proper court. Nevertheless a blind man can see his actions in Afghanistan were treasonable even if a lawyer could argue on current law he has TECHNICALLY committed no crime.[/b]
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