Round 17 - Centrals v Norwood @ Elizabeth 2.10pm Sat 17 July

[Dogmatic]

Norwood have got a quality mid-field and in my view was the reason we lost last time.

But we didn't have Boyd in the team then and he is starting to hit his straps so this game will be interesting as I would expect this to be important on the larger oval.

We didn't have Trotter.. Centrals supporters think they'll win easily by 5 goals, i hope the players have that same arrogent attitiude to another top 3 side. Maybe thats why sturt beat you the week before. There is only one reason why i have any doubt about this game and that is because it is at elizabeth. Our midfield is currently as good if not better than yours we the best defence in the competition.

So who is arrogant then?
Saturday will give a better indication of how both teams are travelling.
Plenty of room for improvement left for the dogs. Struggled to have a settled team all year and it is a tribute to Roy they are sitting on top of the ladder.

[sjt]

Norwood have got a quality mid-field and in my view was the reason we lost last time.

But we didn't have Boyd in the team then and he is starting to hit his straps so this game will be interesting as I would expect this to be important on the larger oval.

We didn't have Trotter.. Centrals supporters think they'll win easily by 5 goals, i hope the players have that same arrogent attitiude to another top 3 side. Maybe thats why sturt beat you the week before. There is only one reason why i have any doubt about this game and that is because it is at elizabeth. Our midfield is currently as good if not better than yours we the best defence in the competition.

Not true maccad. I believe it will be very close and wouldn't be surprised to see Centrals lose. We lost to Sturt at Elizabeth earlier in the year. A few players looked sore last week, particularly Schelly.
The way these two sides match up, it should be pretty close as usual. I don't think you have to worry too much about the players having an arrogant attitude. The post you responded to, mentioned Norwood having a quality midfield. Your post is quite contradictory. Your only doubt is as the game is at Elizabeth. My only doubt is as both teams are evenly matched, and Norwood are in very good form.

[JK]

I would expect the Dogs to leave nothing to chance this weekend, so if Norwood are to get the points, only their very best would do .. It's proven historically to be too big an ask for most clubs to get the points in a situation like this, so naturally Im not overly confident (although Im pessimistic virtually every week).

Win (preferably), lose or draw, this week presents Norwood's best opportunity to play on a ground with more finals like dimensions whilst pitting itself against finals quality opposition, and should show a fair bit (either good or bad) to coaching staff to work on should we qualify for September action.

[Rik E Boy]

I would expect the Dogs to leave nothing to chance this weekend, so if Norwood are to get the points, only their very best would do .. It's proven historically to be too big an ask for most clubs to get the points in a situation like this, so naturally Im not overly confident (although Im pessimistic virtually every week).

Win (preferably), lose or draw, this week presents Norwood's best opportunity to play on a ground with more finals like dimensions whilst pitting itself against finals quality opposition, and should show a fair bit (either good or bad) to coaching staff to work on should we qualify for September action.

Great post. Like it or not Centrals are still top Dog and it's great to have a crack at them to see where we are at. Just wish I could see the Leggies play.

regards,

REB

[maccad]

Arrogant, there is nothing to be arrogant about, Just happy to see a comptetive team.

What's to say that centrals won't be be struggling to have a settled team during the finals. Seems like every week you have players coming in and out throught injury and return(p.s. this is not a dig just an observation). You have done very well considering your unsettled line up. We on the other hand have had a very settled line up since round 4, that is probably why we are winning consistantly, not killing teams just winning. As for playing at elizabeth, not many teams win there.

[NFC]

Norwood have got a quality mid-field and in my view was the reason we lost last time.

But we didn't have Boyd in the team then and he is starting to hit his straps so this game will be interesting as I would expect this to be important on the larger oval.

We didn't have Trotter.. Centrals supporters think they'll win easily by 5 goals, i hope the players have that same arrogent attitiude to another top 3 side. Maybe thats why sturt beat you the week before. There is only one reason why i have any doubt about this game and that is because it is at elizabeth. Our midfield is currently as good if not better than yours we the best defence in the competition.

So who is arrogant then?
Saturday will give a better indication of how both teams are travelling.
Plenty of room for improvement left for the dogs. Struggled to have a settled team all year and it is a tribute to Roy they are sitting on top of the ladder.

Anyone could coach Centrals to top position.

[doggies4eva]

Arrogant, there is nothing to be arrogant about, Just happy to see a comptetive team.

What's to say that centrals won't be be struggling to have a settled team during the finals. Seems like every week you have players coming in and out throught injury and return(p.s. this is not a dig just an observation). You have done very well considering your unsettled line up. We on the other hand have had a very settled line up since round 4, that is probably why we are winning consistantly, not killing teams just winning. As for playing at elizabeth, not many teams win there.

So if you have a better mid-field than us and the best defence in the league you should win easily on Saturday.

[doggies4eva]

Norwood have got a quality mid-field and in my view was the reason we lost last time.

But we didn't have Boyd in the team then and he is starting to hit his straps so this game will be interesting as I would expect this to be important on the larger oval.

We didn't have Trotter.. Centrals supporters think they'll win easily by 5 goals, i hope the players have that same arrogent attitiude to another top 3 side. Maybe thats why sturt beat you the week before. There is only one reason why i have any doubt about this game and that is because it is at elizabeth. Our midfield is currently as good if not better than yours we the best defence in the competition.

So who is arrogant then?
Saturday will give a better indication of how both teams are travelling.
Plenty of room for improvement left for the dogs. Struggled to have a settled team all year and it is a tribute to Roy they are sitting on top of the ladder.

Anyone could coach Centrals to top position.

I don't think you appreciate the skill it requires to caoch a team that looks a bit shaky through the year raising expectations and enthusiasm of opposition supporters only to dash them in the finals

[Squawk]

What changes do Doggies supporters see at the selection table this week? Goodrem seems to be listed as available so if he has recovered sufficiently, I expect he will come back in. Is anyone in your ressies pressing for a call up, or is it possible that one or two players might be dropped for reasons of form, team balance or match ups?

[whufc]

goodrem and dutschke to come into side for reichart and sutherland (playing for berri this week) while schell is under injury cloud as well. Wouldnt be surprised to see havelberg back in the side this week either.

[doggies4eva]

Difficult to call a team with AFL players unknown - will Griffin hold his place? I assume Henderson is safe given that he made the best players and Symes seems to be a regular. Will Westhoff hold his place? Will Gunston or Nash get a call-up? Too many variables at this stage.

[Brucetiki]

Difficult to call a team with AFL players unknown - will Griffin hold his place? I assume Henderson is safe given that he made the best players and Symes seems to be a regular. Will Westhoff hold his place? Will Gunston or Nash get a call-up? Too many variables at this stage.

Gunstan is more likely to play in the reserves than get a call up to the Crows. Be surprised if Nash gets recalled by the Power as well.

I'd be very surprised to see Griffin and Henderson at Centrals before finals, and Symes at all this season.

[doggies4eva]

Difficult to call a team with AFL players unknown - will Griffin hold his place? I assume Henderson is safe given that he made the best players and Symes seems to be a regular. Will Westhoff hold his place? Will Gunston or Nash get a call-up? Too many variables at this stage.

Gunstan is more likely to play in the reserves than get a call up to the Crows. Be surprised if Nash gets recalled by the Power as well.

I'd be very surprised to see Griffin and Henderson at Centrals before finals, and Symes at all this season.

Agree with most of that but I note that they have been making Sellar an emergency at the Crows - usually they get a call-up after a couple of stints as emergency - of course it may not be at the expense of Griffin.

[Dogwatcher]

Sutherland to play for Berri by the sounds.

[whufc]

Sutherland to play for Berri by the sounds.

yep is definatly playing for berri this weekend

[Footy Warrior]

Sutherland to play for Berri by the sounds.

yep is definatly playing for berri this weekend

Part of the deal done between the clubs, so Sutherland qualifies for RFL Finals

[Squawk]

OK Doggies fans. Take your supporters hats off for a moment and put your neutral hats on.

I've had a go at making the argument out that the Dogs can win this game, putting aside my own passions. I'd be interested in hearing Dogs fans make out a case for why Norwood can win this game. (Imagine you've got some big coin riding on Norwood winning this game ). Here's my effort...

Home ground advantage - the Ponderosa is a place the Dogs rarely lose at. They relish the wide expanse and their loyal supporters backing them for four quarters.
The Dogs are coming off a loss and that mean's that the team, coaches, club and supporters are ALL angry. It's been a long time since they've lost two in a row.
The midfield pace of Callinan, Boyd, Thomas and co is what gets them going. Roving to Buckets gives them every chance of first use of the ball and allows their team mates to lead in to space at the Ponderosa.
Buckets Mackenzie – he had 29 hitouts all by himself against Norwood in Rd 11, which was the same as the combined total of Norwood's Dawe (12), Dalwood (11) and Rowe (6). He is just too big in the body for Dawe and his youthful rucking mates, whether Dalwood, Gorringe or part-timer Rowe.
Chin music. The Dogs are unrivalled in this area of the game, principally the Gowans boys.
Last time these two teams met in Rd 11, Goodrem didn't seem to have an opponent. If Norwood gives him that sort of space at the Ponderosa they will be giving the Dogs a 4 goal head start. First quarter performances - the Dogs have won 10/13 first quarters - Norwood has won 5/14. Too often this year the Dogs have had an almost unassailable lead at half time which sides have not been able to peg back. They will run out full of steam and demand to put their stamp on the game and the scoreboard from the get-go.

[maccad]

doggies4eva
I didn't say we had a better midfield than yours, i said just as good if not better. that does not mean i think our midfield will smash your's but i think we can break even with yours. Our backline is averaging 66.6 points per game, and we lost our first four games, so one of the higher scoring teams against the team that concedes the least. Our forward line is one of the lowest in the top 5. The point that i am trying to make is we are more competitive than some of think. The last 4 times we have played you guys have resulted in margins less than 3 goals with norwood having goods leads in two of them. At the moment we do match up well against you guys.

[CENTURION]

OK Doggies fans. Take your supporters hats off for a moment and put your neutral hats on.

I've had a go at making the argument out that the Dogs can win this game, putting aside my own passions. I'd be interested in hearing Dogs fans make out a case for why Norwood can win this game. (Imagine you've got some big coin riding on Norwood winning this game ). Here's my effort...

Home ground advantage - the Ponderosa is a place the Dogs rarely lose at. They relish the wide expanse and their loyal supporters backing them for four quarters.
The Dogs are coming off a loss and that mean's that the team, coaches, club and supporters are ALL angry. It's been a long time since they've lost two in a row.
The midfield pace of Callinan, Boyd, Thomas and co is what gets them going. Roving to Buckets gives them every chance of first use of the ball and allows their team mates to lead in to space at the Ponderosa.
Buckets Mackenzie – he had 29 hitouts all by himself against Norwood in Rd 11, which was the same as the combined total of Norwood's Dawe (12), Dalwood (11) and Rowe (6). He is just too big in the body for Dawe and his youthful rucking mates, whether Dalwood, Gorringe or part-timer Rowe.
Chin music. The Dogs are unrivalled in this area of the game, principally the Gowans boys.
Last time these two teams met in Rd 11, Goodrem didn't seem to have an opponent. If Norwood gives him that sort of space at the Ponderosa they will be giving the Dogs a 4 goal head start. First quarter performances - the Dogs have won 10/13 first quarters - Norwood has won 5/14. Too often this year the Dogs have had an almost unassailable lead at half time which sides have not been able to peg back. They will run out full of steam and demand to put their stamp on the game and the scoreboard from the get-go.

I think We will win for the very same reason that The Players think We will win, They have a huge inner self-belief, a never-say-die attitude & it constantly creates victories for Us, where most sides would just fold under the pressure.

[doggies4eva]

doggies4eva
I didn't say we had a better midfield than yours, i said just as good if not better. that does not mean i think our midfield will smash your's but i think we can break even with yours. Our backline is averaging 66.6 points per game, and we lost our first four games, so one of the higher scoring teams against the team that concedes the least. Our forward line is one of the lowest in the top 5. The point that i am trying to make is we are more competitive than some of think. The last 4 times we have played you guys have resulted in margins less than 3 goals with norwood having goods leads in two of them. At the moment we do match up well against you guys.

Fair enough - you did say "if not better" when talking about the midfield. If Goodrem does play he will be underdone. So we will not be at our best and Norwood may be close to theirs.

I agree that Norwood match up well - probably better than any other side if you look at the record for the last 3 years. I have been forecasting Norwood's resurgence for a couple of years now so I hope that I will finally be proven right this year. I also hope that we win a close game After all it is at Elizabeth!