That would go down well at a Liberal Party Branch Meeting, Mick. It wouldn't matter what the ALP did as far as you're concerned.
I agree with you, though, you should vote for the odious, as usual
by redandblack » Fri Jul 09, 2010 11:46 pm
by Gozu » Sat Jul 10, 2010 5:36 am
by Squawk » Sat Jul 10, 2010 11:13 pm
Gozu wrote:Labor was let off the hook by the simultaneous rise of Rudd and the hubris of Howard. Rudd’s one man political movement — writing essays on the German theologians, proposing grand theories of the crash, starting a thousand hares running etc — was impressive at the time, but in retrospect it vindicates Rich Hall’s observation that while it’s impressive to play guitar and harmonica at the same time, once you strap cymbals to your knees it’s all over.
One could see that in Rudd’s farewell speech. Some found it moving. I found it, I must say, passive aggressive, a long statement of ‘look what you’ve done to me’. Rudd’s concrete achievements are numerous and that shouldn’t be diminished as the right wing press are eager to do, but his inability to summarise or synthesise them in that speech was a tiny picture of what it must have been like to work for. Every detail provoked further detail, until the object was lost.
by Wedgie » Sun Jul 11, 2010 1:29 am
redandblack wrote:Good news, Wedgie, you can vote for Gillard after all
It's been put off.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010 ... 949220.htm
Armchair expert wrote:Such a great club are Geelong
by Leaping Lindner » Tue Jul 13, 2010 10:55 am
mick wrote:Quichey wrote:Is the Internet Filter Australia's Berlin Wall
The reason that such large scale political and ideological change can take place, I believe, is in large part to the robust and open democracy which Australia’s political leaders have built over the last hundred years. Fundamental to this has been the freedom of political thought and expression – backed up by rigorous, independent (and in many instances, judicious) review of government decisions.
The internet filter proposed by Senator Stephen Conroy threatens all this. Thus far, the government have focused their arguments around the highly emotive issue of child pornography. There is no question that access to this sort of material should be prohibited. However, only 32% of the sites listed on the Australian Communications and Media Authority’s “blacklist” are related to child pornography. This means that a whopping 68% of sites on the list are there for other reasons – political, ideological, etc – and at the whim of the government in power at the time.
Moreover, the blacklist is NOT available for public scrutiny or independent review. A copy of the blacklist was released on the Wikileaks website earlier in 2009 (a site which is, itself, blacklisted).
Scary stuff.....particularly when we have a government that (on the surface at least) abandons its principles and is prepared to say or do anything to retain power.
by mick » Tue Jul 13, 2010 12:28 pm
Leaping Lindner wrote:mick wrote:Quichey wrote:Is the Internet Filter Australia's Berlin Wall
The reason that such large scale political and ideological change can take place, I believe, is in large part to the robust and open democracy which Australia’s political leaders have built over the last hundred years. Fundamental to this has been the freedom of political thought and expression – backed up by rigorous, independent (and in many instances, judicious) review of government decisions.
The internet filter proposed by Senator Stephen Conroy threatens all this. Thus far, the government have focused their arguments around the highly emotive issue of child pornography. There is no question that access to this sort of material should be prohibited. However, only 32% of the sites listed on the Australian Communications and Media Authority’s “blacklist” are related to child pornography. This means that a whopping 68% of sites on the list are there for other reasons – political, ideological, etc – and at the whim of the government in power at the time.
Moreover, the blacklist is NOT available for public scrutiny or independent review. A copy of the blacklist was released on the Wikileaks website earlier in 2009 (a site which is, itself, blacklisted).
Scary stuff.....particularly when we have a government that (on the surface at least) abandons its principles and is prepared to say or do anything to retain power.
Bit like all those Liberal "wets" (Downer, Ruddock, Costello etc.) who all of a sudden "saw the light" and became "drys" to maintain their position in Howard's Governement. The only pollies with principals are yet to be elected, have left parliament or are Greens
by Psyber » Tue Jul 13, 2010 12:31 pm
I'm not sure I'd list the Greens as an exception either having seen that women on Q&A recently presenting a typical example of political doublespeak.Leaping Lindner wrote: Bit like all those Liberal "wets" (Downer, Ruddock, Costello etc.) who all of a sudden "saw the light" and became "drys" to maintain their position in Howard's Government. The only pollies with principals are yet to be elected, have left parliament or are Greens
by heater31 » Wed Jul 14, 2010 10:39 pm
Wedgie wrote:redandblack wrote:Good news, Wedgie, you can vote for Gillard after all
It's been put off.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010 ... 949220.htm
Did they call it completely off, or just put it on the backburner for a year so they don't have to face it as an issue during the election?
by Wedgie » Fri Aug 06, 2010 3:23 pm
Armchair expert wrote:Such a great club are Geelong
by mick » Fri Aug 06, 2010 3:33 pm
Wedgie wrote:Good news from one side of the fence. The Libs will block the internet filter.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/08/05/2974827.htm
by Gozu » Sun Nov 11, 2012 12:44 am
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