Interdom Final

[bayman]

MAY-Z ROBIN HOOD will hand up to WINFORU and be 3rd on the pegs.

he wont need to hand up it'll have too much speed for rh but i do agree it'll be behind it & a moral on an e/w basis

[MAY-Z]

MAY-Z ROBIN HOOD will hand up to WINFORU and be 3rd on the pegs.

he wont need to hand up it'll have too much speed for rh but i do agree it'll be behind it & a moral on an e/w basis

exactly robin hood wont hand up it wont be a contest, but if smooth crusa or reba rajah show any sort of pace out, they could create enough space to drop on winforu's back

[mal]

Take care all the runners are resuming from long spells.

[SCD]

Take care all the runners are resuming from long spells.

These aniMALs are able to deal with the racing Mal - the week to week racing is great for the trots.. "long spells" is over the top, because barring the Interdom a majority of horses don't race more then once a week and they thrive on the tough racing from week to week...



[quote = "mal"]MAY-Z ROBIN HOOD will hand up to WINFORU and be 3rd on the pegs.[/quote]

Now Bayman has said it and is 100% correct.. I actually think Reba Rajah has enough speed early to just about get infront of Robin Hood.. but he is coming out better - but as for holding Winforu.. not in 1,000,000 years - I remember him winning the Ballarat Cup from barrier 1 - 3 back the fence and a piece of magic / luck from Gavin Lang to get off 500m from home and win.. - He's run in the 3 slowest heats and i'm not sure he's the one who will be able to keep on the back of Winforu if he runs along...

[mighty_tiger_79]

ill be going all up A TOUCH OF FLAIR in the trotters into BLACKS both the WIN and PLACE

[our_longreach]

Did anyone see the drive of Harding in the first race, it was awful. If he is the best in SA we are really bad. Hes the best of a bad bunch!

[SCD]

Alright lads...its money time, you trotting guru's lets see who is the best - name your 1st, 2nd & 3rd for the final and time will tell who the best tipster is..

Have I earnt some respect finally Dutchy?? Exacta in order... and said Be Good Johnny wouldn't be anywhere in the money..

[mal]

Alright lads...its money time, you trotting guru's lets see who is the best - name your 1st, 2nd & 3rd for the final and time will tell who the best tipster is..

it's a short final this year..

1. Blacks a Fake
2. Winforu
3. Robin Hood / Reba Rajah

I'd be risking Be Good Johnny - I don't think he can get the breeze and to top it off, he really struggles off the pegs on tight tracks - he's ok around Albion Pk and Gold Coast.. but not Moonee Valley or Globe Derby.. I have made the assumption that BGJ can't be infront of BAF at the start, so he can't run money.. Winforu leads - Robin Hood or Reba Rajah behind the leader.. Robin Hood has little gate speed.. i think he can hold the spot behind the leader and Reba Rajah will end up one by one.

Your a genuis SCD
WINNER
QUINELLA
EXACTA
but you missed 3rd with Robin Hood for TRIFECTAS
Explanation for us mere mortals on Robin Hood


I worked the race out perfectly
winforu lead
blacks a fake in death
robin hood 3rd on pegs

I JUST DIDNT KNOW WHICH ONE COULD ENDURE 4 RUNS IN 2 WEEKS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[bayman]

Did anyone see the drive of Harding in the first race, it was awful. If he is the best in SA we are really bad. Hes the best of a bad bunch!

yeah, i agree his tactics was puzzling, but the horse went terrible & his decision to go to the front & let lang get to the death made no difference to it but did make langs horse a certainty from there which i did not think he could get into the race, but once it got to the death it was a moral

[bayman]

a few poor drives tonight the first we've put up, the 2nd barry lew despite winning on karloo mick, the 3rd was g.buckley on military puzzling drive that & in the most important race of the year j.macarthy on be good johnny, he got to the death cheap & hands up the death & RACE to blacks a fake if we all knew he was handing up to it, we all would've back it so he hands the inter to baf & at the same time gave himself NO HOPE

[mighty_tiger_79]

maybe he felt he had to hand up to BLACKS to give his horse every chance. maybe his horse wasnt feeling the best after having so many runs in a short time and tried to nurse it through the race and was racing for 2nd prize

[bayman]

maybe he felt he had to hand up to BLACKS to give his horse every chance. maybe his horse wasnt feeling the best after having so many runs in a short time and tried to nurse it through the race and was racing for 2nd prize

once he handed up, he had NO HOPE as the others would be coming around & he would be pocketed, baf wins but never wins by a space so he would never get out (if he was going well in the run) & he couldn't run 2nd or even win unless he got lucky with a split, no mt it was puzzling for the two reasons i mentioned 1, gave the race to baf & 2, GAVE HIMSELF NO CHANCE

[mal]

BAYMAN MT79 might be spot on, if this race was not on the back of
a murderous 4 runs in 2 weeks campaign then I reckon BE GOOD JOHNNY
would have kicked up and eliminated BLACKS A FAKE from winning.
BUT that is merely speculation....I wonder what FLASHING RED would have done.....

[SCD]

maybe he felt he had to hand up to BLACKS to give his horse every chance. maybe his horse wasnt feeling the best after having so many runs in a short time and tried to nurse it through the race and was racing for 2nd prize

once he handed up, he had NO HOPE as the others would be coming around & he would be pocketed, baf wins but never wins by a space so he would never get out (if he was going well in the run) & he couldn't run 2nd or even win unless he got lucky with a split, no mt it was puzzling for the two reasons i mentioned 1, gave the race to baf & 2, GAVE HIMSELF NO CHANCE

Disagree 100% Bayman - BGJ got the sprint lane at the top of the straight and couldn't even run 3rd.. had every chance - the drive was good... the horse had every chance and McCarthy thought he was following the best horse and giving his horse a better chance then running 28 or 29 second quarters and being gone at the 500m.. lets be honest - he races best fresh and just didn't get thorugh the series... The horse went only ordinary compared to how he can go... sounds like someone is talking out their pocket

[bayman]

maybe he felt he had to hand up to BLACKS to give his horse every chance. maybe his horse wasnt feeling the best after having so many runs in a short time and tried to nurse it through the race and was racing for 2nd prize

once he handed up, he had NO HOPE as the others would be coming around & he would be pocketed, baf wins but never wins by a space so he would never get out (if he was going well in the run) & he couldn't run 2nd or even win unless he got lucky with a split, no mt it was puzzling for the two reasons i mentioned 1, gave the race to baf & 2, GAVE HIMSELF NO CHANCE

garbage, i infact mastered robin hood in f4's to run 1st,2nd,3rd & 4th so i was not talking through my pocket i also stated in brackets if it was going well enough, i reiterate it HANDED THE RACE TO BAF

i ask two more ?'s if you KNEW it would get the death cheaply what price would the bookies have had it ? yeah about 1/2 & we all would've backed the winner wouldn't we ?

[SCD]

It's fine to think that BGJ handed the race to BAF - but by doing what he did he gave his horse a chance...

If BGJ doesn't hand up then Tribute wins (clearly the best run in the race.. by a long way actually!) and BGJ fights out last position with Robin Hood.. so by handing up at least he gave his horse a chance to run money and possibly have the last shot at BAF... Lets be honest BGJ checked out Winforu for 75 - 100m to make sure he wouldn't hand up 1st then handed up... it wasn't a bad drive and I don't think it handed BAF the race - after all he still had to beat the leader and Foreal (who can and did sprint very quickly)

[Dutchy]

Alright lads...its money time, you trotting guru's lets see who is the best - name your 1st, 2nd & 3rd for the final and time will tell who the best tipster is..

Have I earnt some respect finally Dutchy?? Exacta in order... and said Be Good Johnny wouldn't be anywhere in the money..

SCD = Legend....been merging SCD, MAL & Baymans tips for some outstanding results lately...

BTW Exacta HAS to be in order!

[mal]

BAYMAN MT79 might be spot on, if this race was not on the back of
a murderous 4 runs in 2 weeks campaign then I reckon BE GOOD JOHNNY
would have kicked up and eliminated BLACKS A FAKE from winning.
BUT that is merely speculation....I wonder what FLASHING RED would have done.....

SCD take note please.
Surely a fit BE GOOD JOHNNY would surely keep out BLACKS A FAKE to
maximise its BEST winning chance.
Once again well tipped but well summized ?

[mighty_tiger_79]

BAYMAN

BGJ may have handed BAF the race but in doing so he was giving his horse the best possible chance to run a place/win.

obviously BGJ cant handle the tough racing like FLASHING RED and they are both weak aniMALs.

[SCD]

2645m - I would bet Be Good Johnny to take the sit 9 times out of 10....
1609m - not in 1,000,000 years would he take a sit

He is a miler and great short course performer.. - look at all his wins over longer trips in good class last year..

Oct 05 - 2600m Albion Pk -Grand Circuit Race - sat back on the outside and came with one run at them
Nov 05 - 1760m Harold Pk - Miracle Mile.. sat outside leader and won
Dec 05 - 2570m Moonee Valley - Vic Cup - drew barrier 1.. handed up to Dinki Di - won on the sprint lane

Be Good Johnny hands up over the longer trips.. it's a case of knowing what the horses do under the different trips.. that and the fact that there are serious doubts about how he gets through with constant racing - Be Good Johnny two miracle mile wins and vic cup win have come off 3 - 4 week breaks.. showing how much better he goes fresh