Who will be Prime Minister?

[redandblack]

Quite so, I'm not sure where you get a majority from, ca?

I see that the ABC News says the 2PP vote is now almost level. More typical lazy journalism, not bothering to check that the AEC have withdrawn the count from several seats temporarily.

[dedja]

FFS just do this and get it over and done with ...

[ca]

We've been down that track, Psyber.

72-72 -1-1-4.

Southee, with respect, there's a big difference between campaign slogans of either side and the deliberate use of language to dogwhistle.

For what it's worth which could be nothing Warren Truss seems fairly confident that Crook would at least help form Government. Nothing public from Crook but it looks like we can now settle the argument of who won the most seats. If he helps form a stable Government long term is another story.

Crook to the Coalition. Bandt to Labor. Makes it 73 each.

My comment wasn't related to who would form Government, more the debate a few pages back on who won more seats between the Coalition and Labor. The issue of Crook was pointed out. Wilkie will sit with Labor so it is at least 74-73 in favour of Labor.

[ca]

Quite so, I'm not sure where you get a majority from, ca?

I see that the ABC News says the 2PP vote is now almost level. More typical lazy journalism, not bothering to check that the AEC have withdrawn the count from several seats temporarily.

You provided the numbers of 72-72 counting him seperate. The debate was if Crook should be counted as a Nationial or an Inderpendent. I just provided some further information on it.

There will be ongoing Challengers for weeks for a whole number of reasons.

[redandblack]

I provided those numbers on the basis of his own words saying don't count him as a number on the coalition side.

That's fairly clear.

The Green, on the other hand, has said he will support Labor.

I agree with you, though, lots will happen over the next several days and it will all be irrelevant after the Ind's decide who they'll support.

Meanwhile, the ABC (and the Australian, of course) are trumpeting that the Libs now lead the 2PP vote. I won't hold my breath for them to headline it when it comes back the other way when all the seats are included.

[JohnnyG]

Quite so, I'm not sure where you get a majority from, ca?

I see that the ABC News says the 2PP vote is now almost level. More typical lazy journalism, not bothering to check that the AEC have withdrawn the count from several seats temporarily.

Can you elaborate on that please or direct me to where to get that information (ie which excluded seats and why excluded and will it be temporary?) - i've been looking on the AEC site but it doesnt mention that several seats were excluded).

[JohnnyG]

edit to above - i just found the following:

The AEC website clearly states that the 2PP figure is still being totalled, which will eventually include the currently excluded seats, likely putting Labor ahead of the Coalition:

"The TPP vote count figure is a summation of the TCP vote count figures from all seats where the two TCP candidates are from the ALP and the Coalition. It excludes TCP vote count figures for either the ALP or the Coalition from seats where one, or both, of the TCP candidates is not from either the ALP or the Coalition in the 2010 election these seats are Batman, Denison, Grayndler, Kennedy, Lyne, Melbourne, New England and O'Connor. TPP figures for these divisions will not be available until a 'scrutiny for information' is done after vote counting is finalised. In a scrutiny for information each of the formal ballot papers is allocated to either the ALP or Coalition candidate depending on which candidate got the highest preference on the ballot paper."

(TPP = 2 party preferred and TCP = 2 candidate preferred)

[redandblack]

No problem, JG.

Here is a link to the relevant AEC page, which clearly states that the final result will change, due to several seats being temporarily excluded.

http://vtr.aec.gov.au/

The best analogy is:

Team A plays Team B.

With 5 minutes to go, Team B leads by a point, because the scoreboard attendant has incorrectly taken a goal off Team A. That is about to be corrected, but the commentators shout

"Team B has won!!"

Well, they might, but they haven't yet.

PS: No worries, I see you've found it

[Wedgie]

Libs $1.50
Labs $2.50

[Wedgie]

Allegiances to football teams, whoops I mean political parties aside I just checked the AEC site and after the counting of 10,716,627 votes there is only 503 votes between the 2 parties in 2PP. That is quite extraordinary!

[redandblack]

And as we explained above, totally wrong and misleading.

It might finish up that close, which would be extraordinary, I agree, but it ain't so right now.

They're starting to wake up about it

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010 ... 998169.htm

And guess what? Labor have reclaimed the lead.

Strange that it's not headline news

[Wedgie]

Woooooooooooooooooooooosh!

[Media Park]

So how long can this circus go on for, before the GG sends us back to the polls???

[Wedgie]

Libs into $1.35

[redandblack]

The Greens have now signed a deal to support Labor.

This now means:

ALP & Green definite 73

LNP 72 definite
+ WA NP almost definite 1 = 73

Indep's 4.

Agreed?

[Leaping Lindner]

The Greens have now signed a deal to support Labor.

This now means:

ALP & Green definite 73

LNP 72 definite
+ WA NP almost definite 1 = 73

Indep's 4.

Agreed?

This circus is far from over. Bob Katter has come out in support of raising tariffs basically dismantling any trade agreement the country have put together in the past decade or so. Gillard has refused to support this - it's unlikely even Abbott would - and also this could mean the other two independents break away from Katter.

[am Bays]

The Greens have now signed a deal to support Labor.

This now means:

ALP & Green definite 73

LNP 72 definite
+ WA NP almost definite 1 = 73

Indep's 4.

Agreed?

Agreed.

[Trader]

This circus is far from over. Bob Katter has come out in support of raising tariffs basically dismantling any trade agreement the country have put together in the past decade or so. Gillard has refused to support this - it's unlikely even Abbott would - and also this could mean the other two independents break away from Katter.

What a **** idiot. Welcome to 40 years ago.

[Sojourner]

Current rumour doing the rounds is that two of the independants are likely to be going Labor and two with the Coalition leaving it an even split on 75 each.

[gossipgirl]

do we need a prime minister ... would anyone notice if we didnt have one