Who will be Prime Minister?

[Magpiespower]

IT'S A FARCE!!

NSW Labor.

[Wedgie]

Lol@Quichey

I'm afraid that won't cut it with me mate, if I was given the option of two super plans that were going to grow no matter what Id still prefer the super that makes me richer than the other especially if the poorer performing super fund would slow down my Internet, once again a no brainer!

It's great that you're 'not as one-eyed as some of us on here', mate, it's just that you always argue for the same side

Yeah good call, my anti Abbott and pro Rudd posts on here as well as pulling Psyber up on his view on he public service definately add weight to that view!
I admire your passion for Labor mate, just like I admire your passion for Westies even though I can't see how people could get so passionate about a political party.
It usually makes your posts a bit deluded (umpieres and media come to mind) but entertaining none the less!
Keep up the good work!

[Wedgie]

Libs now a slight drift at $1.57, similarly to the 2PP vote which he Libs now lead by over 10,000 it's been fascinating to watch this election!

[bulldogproud2]

Quichey, without getting into a debate too much, just cause the next few years look ok doesn't mean we should ignore who's at the helm. Your actions now often impact the future 5-10 years down the track.
A large reason (not the only one) for our performance through the GFC was thanks to the good policy of the previous government, and yes a lot of the good work through the howard years was based on the economic reforms from the previous labor stint.

No that's not right, it was all due to Mr Swan and Mr Rudd, hell they'd been in office for at least 18 months, those other bastards were in for 11 years what possible influence could they have had? Nah all Waynes's and Kev's doing.

If the avoiding of the recession was all due to Howard and Costello, why did Tony Abbott make the following comment at the time of the second stimulus package:

'The stimulus spending is a waste. No matter how much is spent, it cannot avert Australia from going into a deep and prolonged recession with double-digit unemployment for years to come'.
It can safely be held that the avoiding of the recession was due to the economic management of Rudd and Swan moreso than Howard and Costello. If Abbott had been in charge, we would have entered a recession that we will still be in today.

Che

[Dogwatcher]

Wilkie has just said he will support Labor.
Labor now has 74 seats.

[Wedgie]

And accordingly thr Libs are out to $2.50 and Labor in to $1.50!
This election has been awesome to make money out of!

[mighty_tiger_79]

And accordingly thr Libs are out to $2.50 and Labor in to $1.50!
This election has been awesome to make money out of!

it certainly has just wish i had the nerve to put more on

[fish]

I haven't been following the three rural independants that closely but whenever I see/hear them on TV or radio they seem to be scratching around for a reason to not support the coalition...

[Gozu]

If you've got Sky News those three ex-Nats Independents will be on The Nation tonight at 8pm.

[redandblack]

THis comfortably destroys the argument that the Liberals would have a 'substantially higher surplus" than the ALP.

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-election/ ... 14ozw.html

(On top of this, Andrew Wilkie today said that Tony Abbott had promised him a further $1 billion to build a hospital in Hobart!)

A great big new black hole.

Wilkie has also promised not to block an Abbott Government if the 3 other Ind's support the LNP, so I think his support of the ALP is significant mainly for process and perception, rather than just actual numbers.

[JohnnyG]

No, the correct reading of this is that one party has either deliberately lied about its costings or is totally incompetent, or both, whatever 'spin' might be put on it.

I looked at The Australian's website to read their take on it, but had to search way down the page to find a mention

You kids and your footy teams! Mines better than yours, nyah nyah!

They're all the same. Labor didn't deliver on their last elections predictions. Whilst not being as fanatical and one eyed as some on here Ill be happy with the party that delivers a better economy (and Ill assume sine you didn't point out where the figures I provided are wrong that they must be right) and not back a plan that will slow down my Internet thanks very much. If a government department advises an economy will be better off under a party they've already leaked documents of then it's a no brainer for reasonable people that can look at things objectively.
Just a pity it's mad Abbott that's doing it as if it was Kevin Rudd I'd be much happier.

Wedgie your perceived objectiveness sees to be pre-empted by your subjectiveness

[JohnnyG]

and by the way, in regards to your questioning the Treasury costings of both parties, regardless of prior leaks to either party from Treasury officials, the simple fact remains that the costings of both parties can now be compared properly based on the same assumptions....... ie compare apples with apples...

getting an accounting firm to look over the figures was a farce in itself, the firm can only go by the assumptions given to it by the Libs.

If the Libs figures had been released prior to the election, i have no doubt that the ALP would have won an absolute majority of seats.

[fish]

and by the way, in regards to your questioning the Treasury costings of both parties, regardless of prior leaks to either party from Treasury officials, the simple fact remains that the costings of both parties can now be compared properly based on the same assumptions....... ie compare apples with apples...

getting an accounting firm to look over the figures was a farce in itself, the firm can only go by the assumptions given to it by the Libs.

If the Libs figures had been released prior to the election, i have no doubt that the ALP would have won an absolute majority of seats.

There's that word again!

[redandblack]

I see Robb thinks Wilkie 'doublecrossed' the Libs over the hospital offer!

Would you really want this mob making decisions for the country?

[mick]

I see Robb thinks Wilkie 'doublecrossed' the Libs over the hospital offer!

Would you really want this mob making decisions for the country?

Insulation stuff ups , school hall blunders and rip-offs, billions of dollars to pokie barons and electronics retailers through the stimulus

[redandblack]

Tony says 95% of his costings were right.

The School Halls had a 97% success rate.

He can't have it both ways.

(unless he's been doublecrossed again)

[Ronnie]

Tony says 95% of his costings were right.

The School Halls had a 97% success rate.

He can't have it both ways.

(unless he's been doublecrossed again)

If massive over charging and rorting of taxpayer money are to become part of the Australian way then yeah i can accept 97% success rate would be about right for the School building project.

[redandblack]

Massive overcharging and rorting?

You obviously haven't read the report's findings, only Tony's slogans?

[redandblack]

Here's an article on why Tony Abbott should be PM.

(ca, THIS is a good read )

http://www.abc.net.au/unleashed/stories/s3001596.htm

[bulldogproud2]

I see Robb thinks Wilkie 'doublecrossed' the Libs over the hospital offer!

Would you really want this mob making decisions for the country?

Insulation stuff ups , school hall blunders and rip-offs, billions of dollars to pokie barons and electronics retailers through the stimulus

The major school hall blunder was actually by Tony Abbott when he had to have two attempts at launching their Education policy. At the school where he was originally going to launch the policy, he asked why they are having a new library built and how much of a waste this is. He was somewhat redfaced when the school principal explained that their first library, which was built during the Howard era, was very poor, having no airconditioning and being nowhere near big enough for their clientele. Someone in the Liberal Party did not do their research very well.