gdp monday 5/2/2007

[mighty_tiger_79]

BAYMANS tip race 4 -1 bizzell unplaced but he did say his top two in the race were the 9,10 which ran the quinella/exacta and you could have jagged the tri by putting in the rest of his selections for third!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Scd also found the winner for the QUADDIE!!!!!!!!!!! pity it was fav but at least your alive

[mighty_tiger_79]

well ive backed the 3 in race 5 and layed the 7

so i dont want 7 winning and the 3 nowhere

[SCD]

BAYMANS tip race 4 -1 bizzell unplaced but he did say his top two in the race were the 9,10 which ran the quinella/exacta and you could have jagged the tri by putting in the rest of his selections for third!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Scd also found the winner for the QUADDIE!!!!!!!!!!! pity it was fav but at least your alive

quaddies are still going into 3rd leg.. outlay of $40 for the day..

have 4,6,7,9,10,11 in the trot race and then in race 7

1 for 44%
7 and 8 for 19%

so we're on our way for now..

[mal]

SCD yOU wuz stiff with ZED
Blackbook this horse good run

[mal]

LATE MAL
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R1-8 ENDEARED [$1-20] cant lose so if we obtain $1-40 or better chhhhhharge. WIN
R3-2 WAVE REIGNS[$3-50] should lead PLACE .............................................PLACE
R8-10 GET GOING[$2-80] EW cert..the fav DOLLAR MICK is a non winner. ........EW

BETFAIR LAY
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R2-6 LEON CAM
The trainer is giving this horse a near impossible task.
It raced Saturday night thus 2 runs in 48 hours
The horse needs a soft run after running 48 hours ago, I cant see that happening
from 30 meters behind some handy horses

It is $3-20 in the paper not only wont it win it probably will miss aplace in a 6 horse field.
If BAYMAN did not tip LEON CAM I would say lay it forever.

good luck

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Mixed day
ENDEARED WINS AT $1-20
WAVE REIGN unplaced
LEON CAM our lay ran last
GET GOING a certainty beaten paid $1-40 a place

[bayman]

LATE MAL
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R1-8 ENDEARED [$1-20] cant lose so if we obtain $1-40 or better chhhhhharge. WIN
R3-2 WAVE REIGNS[$3-50] should lead PLACE .............................................PLACE
R8-10 GET GOING[$2-80] EW cert..the fav DOLLAR MICK is a non winner. ........EW

BETFAIR LAY
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R2-6 LEON CAM
The trainer is giving this horse a near impossible task.
It raced Saturday night thus 2 runs in 48 hours
The horse needs a soft run after running 48 hours ago, I cant see that happening
from 30 meters behind some handy horses

It is $3-20 in the paper not only wont it win it probably will miss aplace in a 6 horse field.
If BAYMAN did not tip LEON CAM I would say lay it forever.

good luck

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Mixed day
ENDEARED WINS AT $1-20
WAVE REIGN unplaced
LEON CAM our lay ran last
GET GOING a certainty beaten paid $1-40 a place

get your facts right mal leon cam was disqualified from the race so it did not run last it was 3rd over the line but was dq, i bet it says d in its form not 6

[SCD]

SCD yOU wuz stiff with ZED
Blackbook this horse good run

I Thought it went super - deserved to win.. but the winner sat in the breeze in a first half of 60.5 - so definately can't take anything away from it.. (improved about 20m on it's previous poor efforts!!)

[bayman]

BAYMANS tip race 4 -1 bizzell unplaced but he did say his top two in the race were the 9,10 which ran the quinella/exacta and you could have jagged the tri by putting in the rest of his selections for third!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Scd also found the winner for the QUADDIE!!!!!!!!!!! pity it was fav but at least your alive

it (1) wasn't actually the tip mt i was mentioning it may improve from the draw at odds 5/1 or whatever it was, was too short, but i did tip the quinella on top

[another grub]

The pools today at GDP_ were shocking....... FFS....

[bayman]

The pools today at GDP_ were shocking....... FFS....

i haven't looked at them but it was hard to pick the easy winners today bar for the first one even young vance was too short

[mal]

LATE MAL
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R1-8 ENDEARED [$1-20] cant lose so if we obtain $1-40 or better chhhhhharge. WIN
R3-2 WAVE REIGNS[$3-50] should lead PLACE .............................................PLACE
R8-10 GET GOING[$2-80] EW cert..the fav DOLLAR MICK is a non winner. ........EW

BETFAIR LAY
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R2-6 LEON CAM
The trainer is giving this horse a near impossible task.
It raced Saturday night thus 2 runs in 48 hours
The horse needs a soft run after running 48 hours ago, I cant see that happening
from 30 meters behind some handy horses

It is $3-20 in the paper not only wont it win it probably will miss aplace in a 6 horse field.
If BAYMAN did not tip LEON CAM I would say lay it forever.

good luck

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Mixed day
ENDEARED WINS AT $1-20
WAVE REIGN unplaced
LEON CAM our lay ran last
GET GOING a certainty beaten paid $1-40 a place

get your facts right mal leon cam was disqualified from the race so it did not run last it was 3rd over the line but was dq, i bet it says d in its form not 6

You didnt go back far enough to page 1 BAYMAN
Read my next post after this

[mal]

well first of i gave positive outlook a trifecta/first 4 chance not a winning chance with chance being the operative word chance not certainty to run a place

with leon cam on monday he has PROVEN he can back up, i have it at 6/4 & he is no certainty but i think he is the one to beat as he should get a good cart up in the race & have the final shot at them, if however the speed is not fast enough he has the strength to go to death & still be competitive if you look at the handicaps he is in very well in this race

if leon cam fails (WITHOUT INTERFERENCE) then talk to me, but to give you credit this is the first time you've mentioned a horse BEFORE ITS RACED the second time, so we'll wait & see but this is the wrong horse to bring up about backing up

LEON CAM ran third in a 6 horse field
The stewards lodged a protest.
Protest upheld LEON CAM had an unfair advantage at the start [CHEAT ]
LEON CAM officially runs LAST

Just maybe people will take notice of trainers over-racing pacers now

TIRED HORSE SYSTEM UPDATE
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21 BETS
2 WINS
INV $21
RET $8-3O
LOSE $12-70

The defence is putting up exhibit B a documentation from earlier today.
There we are BAYMAN the truth the truth and nothing but the truth.
The Defence rests.
Up to the Prosecution now.

[SCD]

Mal - can I get you to start up looking at trots with a break > 6 weeks and see their record also..

There's always going to be backing up and always going to be spells.. it's just a case of working out when to back them and when to not.. I backed a horse in November (POSITIVE OUTLOOK) at Maryborough on a Sunday @ $5.. ran 2nd.. saw it run on Monday when we went up there.. decided against following up and it paid over $30 the win.. so that would have given Bayman's argument a good kick along...



http://www.harness.org.au/ausbreed/reports/start.cfm?horse_id=225203

if you are looking for the horse - 5th and 6th November..

[mal]

Same horse POSITIVE OUTLOOK tried the old 2 runs in 24 hours
trick last Friday + Saturday night.
It won at Port Pirie and went like a crab the next night.

SCD you and your MATE BAYMAN love to pick out isolated instances
of it working but in the long run you will go BROKE betting on them.
I will continue to keep the records and establish a pattern.

21 BETS
2 WINNERS

One of those winners was a 7 horse field and 4 of the runners raced within
the 4 day period.

And a new MALISM slogan for you

" Everytime you lose you dont win."

[mighty_tiger_79]

BAYMANS tip race 4 -1 bizzell unplaced but he did say his top two in the race were the 9,10 which ran the quinella/exacta and you could have jagged the tri by putting in the rest of his selections for third!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Scd also found the winner for the QUADDIE!!!!!!!!!!! pity it was fav but at least your alive

it (1) wasn't actually the tip mt i was mentioning it may improve from the draw at odds 5/1 or whatever it was, was too short, but i did tip the quinella on top

BAYMAN if you read carefully i did say your top two selections in the race ran the quinella, i just added your selection e/w at odds was unplaced and i guessed you wouldnt have backed it at the shocking price it was. im glad someone liked Bizell on BETFAIR!!!!

[bayman]

Same horse POSITIVE OUTLOOK tried the old 2 runs in 24 hours
trick last Friday + Saturday night.
It won at Port Pirie and went like a crab the next night.

SCD you and your MATE BAYMAN love to pick out isolated instances
of it working but in the long run you will go BROKE betting on them.
I will continue to keep the records and establish a pattern.

21 BETS
2 WINNERS

One of those winners was a 7 horse field and 4 of the runners raced within
the 4 day period.

And a new MALISM slogan for you

" Everytime you lose you dont win."

mal this 'record' you are keeping is unfair for 2 reasons some backing up horse clash so therefore they can't all win if in the same race, & i want you to point them all out & if i give them a chance thats what 'your record' should consist of as lets face it if slugs back up you would not back them if they had 2 weeks off so keep the record with those with GENUINE CHANCES OF WINNING ONLY PLEASE

surely that is fair ?

[mal]

Garbage BAYMAN
Your saying if they race against each other its harder for more winners.
Im saying if ther is 2 or more in the one race it increases the chances of a winner.

1 of the 2 winners last week was in a 7 horse field with 4 qualifiers.
It paid $4-00 the win + $1 on all you break even

I have seen THE PUPPETMASTER + LEON CAM run fizzers and were both nearly favourites.

[bayman]

Garbage BAYMAN
Your saying if they race against each other its harder for more winners.
Im saying if ther is 2 or more in the one race it increases the chances of a winner.

1 of the 2 winners last week was in a 7 horse field with 4 qualifiers.
It paid $4-00 the win + $1 on all you break even

I have seen THE PUPPETMASTER + LEON CAM run fizzers and were both nearly favourites.

not garbage, of those 4 maybe 2 were genuine chances to win without going back to see the field & lets face it you would not back slugs like nevago, sherwood pal, just johnie & cats like that so i'm saying the horses you keep as a record should not be horses with no chance regardless of when their previous run was, now if that is not fair i give up

[bayman]

[quote="mal"][quote="bayman"]



LEON CAM ran third in a 6 horse field
The stewards lodged a protest.
Protest upheld LEON CAM had an unfair advantage at the start [CHEAT ]
LEON CAM officially runs LAST

i'll say it AGAIN leon cam DID NOT RUN OFFICIALLY LAST (YOUR QUOTE MAL) it was disqualified & in its form it'll have d & NOT 6 next to its name, how much clearer can i put it ?

[bayman]

I backed the 4 in race 2 what a run after gallopinga t the start....Bayman watch the tapes and tell me that wasnt a huge run!!! or the others are ordinary!

yes it was a big run dutch & its mid race times were almost astonishing as for leon cam i've watched the replay & unfortuneately the camera doesn't pick it up at the start obviously the stewards had the head on shot which sky never showed so i cant make a comment except to say jim at the start made mention of it in his call