gdp monday 5/2/2007

[mal]

LEON CAM ran distanced officially.
It unofficially ran 3rd and beat 4th +5th by about a neck before the protest
It gained an unfair start which I have been told was about 10 metres
It would have ran LAST or SECOND LAST without the cheating.

I admitted I was WRONG with the PUPPETMASTER on friday nite[4 runs 1 week]
when I said the horse was a chance.
100% WRONG which I am man enough to post on this site.

Since then

SATURDAY NIGHT
POSITIVE OUTLOOK [2 runs in 24 hours]
Can SCD admit he is wrong nahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

MONDAY
LEON CAM [2 RUNS 48 HOURS]
CAN BAYMAN admit he is wrong nahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

BAYMAN your 6/4 rated chance LEON CAM got beaten
A rare error of judgement
It dont matter if it ran LAST or DISTANCED the horse LOST


The 3 stooges all selected runners backing up that all lost
CAN WE ALL ADMIT WE WERE WRONG WITH OUR SELECTIONS

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[SCD]

SATURDAY NIGHT
POSITIVE OUTLOOK [2 runs in 24 hours]
Can SCD admit he is wrong nahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

Wait up - Saturday night I tipped 4 a good thing (paid $1.80 over here) from 1,3,7,9,10 - yes the numbers were 4 - 1 - 3 and although Positive Outlook didn't run a place and I had it in my tips.. it still beat 4 runners home from a poor draw (only beaten 13m in a leader dominated race that they went 1:59.6 in - so from the back row for an average animal only - he was always always going to need luck to run a place..

[mal]

Lovely summation of the race SCD
So did running twice in 24 hours have any bearing on how it ran

[Dutchy]

Mal's right...he just doesnt use the same theory in Cricket!!!

[bayman]

LEON CAM ran distanced officially.
It unofficially ran 3rd and beat 4th +5th by about a neck before the protest
It gained an unfair start which I have been told was about 10 metres
It would have ran LAST or SECOND LAST without the cheating.

I admitted I was WRONG with the PUPPETMASTER on friday nite[4 runs 1 week]
when I said the horse was a chance.
100% WRONG which I am man enough to post on this site.

Since then

SATURDAY NIGHT
POSITIVE OUTLOOK [2 runs in 24 hours]
Can SCD admit he is wrong nahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

MONDAY
LEON CAM [2 RUNS 48 HOURS]
CAN BAYMAN admit he is wrong nahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

BAYMAN your 6/4 rated chance LEON CAM got beaten
A rare error of judgement
It dont matter if it ran LAST or DISTANCED the horse LOST


The 3 stooges all selected runners backing up that all lost
CAN WE ALL ADMIT WE WERE WRONG WITH OUR SELECTIONS

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FIRST LINE it was not officially distanced it was OFFICIALLY DISQUALIFIED

[mal]

LEON CAM

Distanced ,disqualified, ran last who gives a rats arse.
The horse was beaten FULL STOP
Stop avoiding the criteria and that criteria is did the horse
fail because it ran twice in 48 hours.

[mighty_tiger_79]

LEON CAM failed because

a) the 2 runs in 48 hours didnt help its cause

b) its no good

[mighty_tiger_79]

it really is starting to become a circus in here with you 3 STOOGES and horses backing up and not backing up.

there maybe some horses that can handle it but the stats so far this year prove that it is an unsuccessful move. GREAT FOR BETFAIR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[magpie in the 80's]

it really is starting to become a circus in here with you 3 STOOGES and horses backing up and not backing up.

there maybe some horses that can handle it but the stats so far this year prove that it is an unsuccessful move. GREAT FOR BETFAIR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

in the end its all about YOU and what you bet your HARD EARNED on

[SCD]

Lovely summation of the race SCD
So did running twice in 24 hours have any bearing on how it ran

I don't think in this horses case no.. it backed up quite well - 3 wide at the bell - did a lot of work and still battled on ok, I think it went better Saturday then it did Sunday...

MT is right - it's each horse to it's own.. I remember a horse (Poppy's Vanity) won on a Friday and again a Saturday @ $100/1 - but I also know of a lot of horses that have gone a hell of a lot worse on the backup...

Week to week racing is the key - they can do that for 6 - 9 months with no spell (my mare did it 13 weeks running and had 13 starts 1 win and 5 placings and another 3 4ths...) so that's the way to go with them...

[mal]

SCD + BAYMAN

WEEK TO WEEK I guess the differential would be miniMAL in
assessing the horses peak performance, unless the horse
is resuming and needs the run, or at the end of a preperation
when a horses form may taper off.

In your proffesional opinion can we guarentee a horse that races
twice within 1 to 4 days can be near its peak at the 2nd of its 2 runs.

I will try and answer this as honestly and objectively as possible.
I would say SOME horses can do it but a vast majority of those horses were
better at its 1st run.
Overall MOST horses can not butter up a 2nd run at a PEAK performance.

And sometimes a horse at its 2nd run needs only to be 75% of the peak
to win a race.
SWITCHEROO that trotter in 2006 did win 3 times in a week.[3 times I think ?]
I asked a professional punter about SWITCHEROO and he said :
" The average trotters are going around the horse is better off racing 3 times
aweek before the good trotters all resume."

BAYMAN thats my logic and one day another horse will butter up and WIN twice in a week,
but dont forget all the ones that did not.

I have been in a few horses, none of them ran twice in a few days....

[bayman]

LEON CAM

Distanced ,disqualified, ran last who gives a rats arse.
The horse was beaten FULL STOP
Stop avoiding the criteria and that criteria is did the horse
fail because it ran twice in 48 hours.

forget for 1 minute it was 'dq' the horse it self went super the winner was the best run in the race & leon cam was the 2nd best run in the race i have timed the horses & both would've won the majority of races, leon cam came home 3 then 4 & finally 5 wide around the bend & kept making ground & was the only horse that did make sufficient ground in the latter stages

so mal i'll come up to your place with the video & i'll let you clock it & then tell me it failed it went super & remember it was on a handicap

the other ? i asked you was are you going to delete the "no chances" from your record ? just answer & i'm dumbfounded why you wont

[mal]

BAYMAN I will answer your question about no chances horses
that are backing up seeing as if your are dumbfounded I have not replied to that.

Heres my answer
I have picked 21 horses that backed up last week with the results
I did not isolate whether a horse was a good or bad horse.
happy now
All I did was provide statistics.
I have dodged that question for a few days.

Now my question
For months I have asked one thing as I did in my previous post.
ARE HORSES THAT BACK UP TWICE IN 1-2-3-OR 4 DAYS IN PEAK
FITNESS AND CAPABLE OF BEING AT A PEAK PERFORMANCE

Answer that question please.

Ive already said :
SOME CAN
MOST CANT

LEON CAM BEFORE THE PROTEST
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Very good run and was beaten about 2 metres AGREE[If the unfair start did not assist]
Happy
My question if the horse was 85% fit backing up that MAY have been the difference
between winning and losing
THATS MY WHOLE POINT ....IF THE HORSE WAS FRESHER AND AT CLOSER TO 100%
FITNESS IT MIGHT HAVE WON THE BLOODY RACE
Agree with what Ive been trying to say for the past 6 or so months and endeth please.

[magpie in the 80's]

YOU GUYS CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH

[magpie in the 80's]

YOU GUYS CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH

OR AS JOHN MCENROE WOULD SAY

THE QUESTION ANSWER THE DAMN QUESTION

[bayman]

i'll answer it on monday or tuesday after reviewing tapes including this weeks

[mal]

i'll answer it on monday or tuesday after reviewing tapes including this weeks

YOU ARE UNBELIEVABLE WHATS TAPES GOT TO DO WITH MY QUESTION I ASKED YOU

One last time

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My answer for the 1,098,452,345,76,9,128 TH time is
SOME ARE
MOST ARE NOT

BELIEVE ME A VIDEO TAPE WILL NOT GIVE YOU THAT ANSWER

[magpie in the 80's]

i'll answer it on monday or tuesday after reviewing tapes including this weeks

WHAT TAPES

"A FEW GOOD MEN"

MCENROES TENNIS MATCH