Hardly all doom and gloom for Norwood

[nickname]

With Nick Lower going, it seems the draft was cruel and unkind for Norwood.

Nice work, Dogwatcher.

[JK]

Sack BASSETT
No point having a coach that gets the very very best out of his players, and they get drafted

Sorry for feeling sulky, but the SANFL used to be a great competition
Now its simply a feeder system for the AFL

Happened to WA under REHN , and now NW under BASSETT

Very frustrating

Same for all though bud, and like it or lump that's the state of play these days .. We have two choices really, we abandon our clubs or we live with the realities of the current climate.

[SpionKopster]

Sack BASSETT
No point having a coach that gets the very very best out of his players, and they get drafted

Sorry for feeling sulky, but the SANFL used to be a great competition
Now its simply a feeder system for the AFL

Happened to WA under REHN , and now NW under BASSETT

Very frustrating

Can understand your frustration but I see it as an opportunity to filter through the next group of juniors, bring in some new players and move on.

Nathan Bassett strikes me as a shrewd operator and I'm confident he'll formulate a more than competitive lineup in 2011.

This isn't the first year we've been pillaged by the system, and with all due respects, we're Norwood, we're not West Adelaide, we'll hit back hard.

[sjt]

Norwood have been smashed

Imagine if Central had lost

Lower-Thomas
Duigan-Spurr
Pupolo-Hayes
Phillips-Callinan
Gorringe-Sutherland
Trotter-Sansbury
Weatherald-Boyd

That would kill any state side in Aus. Hard to see Norwood making the top 3 with that many changes to personnel.

When you put it that way it is actually worse than that.
If those Centrals players are as good as those Norwood players you are comparing them to, then they would also have been drafted.

Though i agree with the sentiment WHUFC, in that I'd hate Central to lose that many players this year. I'd say Mackenzie for Gorringe has happened, massive loss. Phillips and Callinan are not comparable. I may be wrong, but I'd guess Phillips wont play 3 AFL games this year. Callinan, not sure. Regardless, Callinan as Dutchy said is the best player in the SANFL (both have been drafted) and potentially a much bigger loss.
Lower and Thomas, Hayes and Puopolo both as important for their respective sides, so fair enough.
Weatherald replaced with Eagleton.
Heart Beats True we know it's quite often the case the best players don't get drafted. i know which side of the above ledger I'd rather have. I'd take the seven on the right every time.
We thought the same in the years we lost Scoullar, Arnott, Bello, Hopwood, Hurn etc
I think Schell also is a massive out. He has been in the top two goal kicking forwards in every finals campaign he's played. His last with a wrecked shoulder.

[CENTURION]

Norwood have been smashed

Imagine if Central had lost

Lower-Thomas
Duigan-Spurr
Pupolo-Hayes
Phillips-Callinan
Gorringe-Sutherland
Trotter-Sansbury
Weatherald-Boyd

That would kill any state side in Aus. Hard to see Norwood making the top 3 with that many changes to personnel.

We did it at the end of 2005 & still played in the 2006 Grand Final.

[CENTURION]

Norwood have been smashed

Imagine if Central had lost

Lower-Thomas
Duigan-Spurr
Pupolo-Hayes
Phillips-Callinan
Gorringe-Sutherland
Trotter-Sansbury
Weatherald-Boyd

That would kill any state side in Aus. Hard to see Norwood making the top 3 with that many changes to personnel.

When you put it that way it is actually worse than that.
If those Centrals players are as good as those Norwood players you are comparing them to, then they would also have been drafted.

Norwood will make the top 3 next year.

nup, sorry. mebbe 5th/6th.

[SpionKopster]

No need to be sorry Centuwion.

Being written off does sit comfortably however

[Big Phil]

Phillips-Callinan

Interesting comparison, if you count Norwood as losing Phillips you have to count Central as losing Callinan surely?

Dogs fans dont seem too concerned that they have potentially lost the best player in the comp for 2011?

Main difference being Phillips is already on the main list at the Power, Callinan, as a rookie, would need a spot on the Crows list to open up for him to be upgraded to the senior list and play AFL. Could happen round 1, could happen round 20?

That may happen, but history probably shows it doesn't until later in the season, by that time Callinan may have played a fair bit of SANFL by then, but so too may Phillips as well. It's all just a case of wait and see but potentially is the key word.

[SpionKopster]

I'll be utterly flabergasted if Callinan isn't the nominated rookie at Adelaide, meaning he can be called up at any point in the season, no long term injury required for the nominated rookie to play. Surely at his age, it's a waste of time if they have no intention of playing him from the commencement of the season.

Mind you, as someone pointed out on another website, Callinan's profile doesn't fit with Craig, adventurous, risk taking, not dour, takes the game on, that's another story / conjecture regarding what Nil will decide, we'd be here for an eternity.

[SpionKopster]

Phillips-Callinan

Interesting comparison, if you count Norwood as losing Phillips you have to count Central as losing Callinan surely?

Dogs fans dont seem too concerned that they have potentially lost the best player in the comp for 2011?

Main difference being Phillips is already on the main list at the Power, Callinan, as a rookie, would need a spot on the Crows list to open up for him to be upgraded to the senior list and play AFL. Could happen round 1, could happen round 20?

That may happen, but history probably shows it doesn't until later in the season, by that time Callinan may have played a fair bit of SANFL by then, but so too may Phillips as well. It's all just a case of wait and see but potentially is the key word.

Come on Big Phil, keep up with the quirks and bs of the AFL, new year, new rules, you know how it goes

[nickname]

This isn't the first year we've been pillaged by the system, and with all due respects, we're Norwood, we're not West Adelaide, we'll hit back hard.

Or perhaps that should be "we're Norwood, not West Adelaide, we'll breach the salary cap by $30,000".

[Go Legs]

This isn't the first year we've been pillaged by the system, and with all due respects, we're Norwood, we're not West Adelaide, we'll hit back hard.

Or perhaps that should be "we're Norwood, not West Adelaide, we'll breach the salary cap by $30,000".

No "Were Norwood, we owned up to our breach not West Adelaide ????"

Cheers

[nickname]

Well, that should really be "we owned up to our second smaller breach after we were busted for the initial larger breach."

[fish]

I'll be utterly flabergasted if Callinan isn't the nominated rookie at Adelaide, meaning he can be called up at any point in the season, no long term injury required for the nominated rookie to play. Surely at his age, it's a waste of time if they have no intention of playing him from the commencement of the season.

Mind you, as someone pointed out on another website, Callinan's profile doesn't fit with Craig, adventurous, risk taking, not dour, takes the game on, that's another story / conjecture regarding what Nil will decide, we'd be here for an eternity.

Agreed SK - not sure whether Callinans game style will fit well with the Crowbots.

[JK]

This isn't the first year we've been pillaged by the system, and with all due respects, we're Norwood, we're not West Adelaide, we'll hit back hard.

Or perhaps that should be "we're Norwood, not West Adelaide, we'll breach the salary cap by $30,000".

Ahh still trotting that one out lmao

[Dutchy]

Phillips-Callinan

Interesting comparison, if you count Norwood as losing Phillips you have to count Central as losing Callinan surely?

Dogs fans dont seem too concerned that they have potentially lost the best player in the comp for 2011?

Main difference being Phillips is already on the main list at the Power, Callinan, as a rookie, would need a spot on the Crows list to open up for him to be upgraded to the senior list and play AFL. Could happen round 1, could happen round 20?

That may happen, but history probably shows it doesn't until later in the season, by that time Callinan may have played a fair bit of SANFL by then, but so too may Phillips as well. It's all just a case of wait and see but potentially is the key word.

Isnt that what I said?

One injury and Callinan is promoted, dont think anyone would think they wont have an injury. Plus after Rnd 11 he can be retained even if the injured player comes back.

History shows the Crows do not recruit for insurance purposes, they would be fully intending for him to play at any stage. Plus IMO he would walk into their 22.

[nickname]

This isn't the first year we've been pillaged by the system, and with all due respects, we're Norwood, we're not West Adelaide, we'll hit back hard.

Or perhaps that should be "we're Norwood, not West Adelaide, we'll breach the salary cap by $30,000".

Ahh still trotting that one out lmao

Just pointing out an alternative point of difference between the two clubs.

[JK]

This isn't the first year we've been pillaged by the system, and with all due respects, we're Norwood, we're not West Adelaide, we'll hit back hard.

Or perhaps that should be "we're Norwood, not West Adelaide, we'll breach the salary cap by $30,000".

Ahh still trotting that one out lmao

Just pointing out an alternative point of difference between the two clubs.

Lol very well put, I'll dip my hat to that

[whufc]

Sorry my point wasnt that we wont miss Callinan more to the fact if you were to take 8 players of similar style and position it would really hurt any clubs chances.

Imho Norwood has taken the biggest hit of league players that any club has taken in recent history. It is going to be extremly hard to replace, its easy to say recruit to replace but blokes such as Lower, Pupolo, Duigan were 3 of their most important players and are Norwood men through and through.

Question?

Would you rather Lower, Pupolo, Duigan, Trotter in the side or 4 reserves players that havent played more than 10 games each of SANFL.

Its a credit to Nathan Bassett where has got Norwood as a team and Norwood players as individuals in the one year.

[sjt]

Sorry my point wasnt that we wont miss Callinan more to the fact if you were to take 8 players of similar style and position it would really hurt any clubs chances.

Imho Norwood has taken the biggest hit of league players that any club has taken in recent history. It is going to be extremly hard to replace, its easy to say recruit to replace but blokes such as Lower, Pupolo, Duigan were 3 of their most important players and are Norwood men through and through.

Question?

Would you rather Lower, Pupolo, Duigan, Trotter in the side or 4 reserves players that havent played more than 10 games each of SANFL.

Its a credit to Nathan Bassett where has got Norwood as a team and Norwood players as individuals in the one year.

Though I'm not disagreeing with you WHUFC, though it might seem otherwise. As mentioned previously, I'd hate to lose the players Norwood lost this draft.
Having said that, all is not lost. At the end of 2005, we lost our Captain Daniel Healy. Bello, Hopwood and Arnott who had four best and fairests between the three of them. Also Tyson Hay and Sam McArdle. About 25 premierships and over 600 games at Central between them. In 2006 we made and lost the GF. A lot will depend on what Norwood can do in the next month or so re recruits.