Barossa & Light Cricket Association 2010-11

[daysofourlives]

I was hoping to catch up with a few people from Angaston after the game sunday but that might not happen now

After your game finishes in bout 3 hours you should go past eudunda on your way home norm

[Stewie Griffin]

Did you have a hand in the venue changes for Sunday daysof?
Is f%*kin rididculous Ango finishes 7-0 and have to travel 50 mins to Eudunda on Sunday.
The facilities at Nuri, Tanunda and Stockwell are far better than that at Eudunda, it is
like playing in Sri Lanka out there, half the oval is dirt.
I don't understand why you would think its an acceptable result for Ango to play out there,
maybe there is a slow moving goat out that way you have had your eye on.

[TimmiesChin]

Did you have a hand in the venue changes for Sunday daysof?
Is f%*kin rididculous Ango finishes 7-0 and have to travel 50 mins to Eudunda on Sunday.
The facilities at Nuri, Tanunda and Stockwell are far better than that at Eudunda, it is
like playing in Sri Lanka out there, half the oval is dirt.
I don't understand why you would think its an acceptable result for Ango to play out there,
maybe there is a slow moving goat out that way you have had your eye on.

Stewie,

Where Ango finishes really doesn't have a bearing on how venues are allocated, and neither should it.
Normally the selected venues seem to be chosen as somewhat of a midpoint between the competing teams - although this isn't always the case. (The tied one day final some years ago was not a midpoint).
There also seems to be an effort to share around the finals venues, between the turf clubs. The financial and time investment made each and every year by the turf clubs is much more significant that many people at non turf clubs seem to appreciate, so I believe an attempt to share the spoils, and effort is made. Eudunda has as much right to recoup some bar money as the next club, and other clubs have the right to have a weekend off without having to look after a game.

As for facilities, air-conditioned clubrooms overlooking the oval are something Nuri and Tanunda both don't have. There oval was is very good nick the last time I saw it (I'm assuming it has survived this summer well), a good covering of grass - and something you Ango boys may be looking forward to is the fact it actually gets mowed regularly . And their pitch is a significantly superior wicket to that of Tanunda and Nuri, I've never seen a bad deck up that way - JR does a fantastic job, and taking my clubs deck out of it, I cant think of another deck I'd prefer to play on.
50 minutes to Eudunda is only if you follow the speed limit.

[Stewie Griffin]

Perhaps being that there is no real reward for finishing top, apart from playing 4th,
(which in a close league is a tiny advantage at best), there should be something in place
that gives the higher team the choice of turf venue.
Wasn't this in place about 4 or 5 years ago anyway?
I have no personal grievance of Eudunda as a venue, and the pitch is usually great,
is more about having a weekend stuffed with cricket and then the extra travel on top.
When are we supposed to do our gardening?
And our poor supporters and WAGs, where is their love? they don't want to ride in the car with us for that long.
If the league wants to share it around then have 1-day finals in the a1 resssies and a2's,
and have a bunch of games at all different venues.
I still suspect there is a goat involved.....

[TimmiesChin]

Perhaps being that there is no real reward for finishing top, apart from playing 4th,
(which in a close league is a tiny advantage at best), there should be something in place
that gives the higher team the choice of turf venue.
Wasn't this in place about 4 or 5 years ago anyway?
I have no personal grievance of Eudunda as a venue, and the pitch is usually great,
is more about having a weekend stuffed with cricket and then the extra travel on top.
When are we supposed to do our gardening?
And our poor supporters and WAGs, where is their love? they don't want to ride in the car with us for that long.
If the league wants to share it around then have 1-day finals in the a1 resssies and a2's,
and have a bunch of games at all different venues.
I still suspect there is a goat involved.....

In a close league with numerous heat/rain effected games, finishing top gives you the possibility of being declared winner should game be abandoned. Its not a good way to win, but hey.

Several years ago the highest finishing clubs were given the choice of venue, but the rule was badly worded, and as a result all clubs picked their home ground - hard wicket clubs picked their home grounds as well - hardly a good outcome. I umpired the A1 grand final the year this rule was in place, and the highest finishing club (a turf club) picked their own venue, and then ignored the preparation of the oval, resulting in an unplayable deck and potentially a win without playing. This took a few veiled threats from said umpire(s) to get the pitch up for day two of the final. I agree the wording of the rule was bad, but leaving it up to the clubs does create potential problems.

A weekend can be stuffed by cricket, that's par for the course - realistically, your weekend was stuffed this weekend if you were playing at Eudunda or playing at Tanunda. And mine will be stuffed after getting over saturday night

Once again - don't underestimate the masses of voluntary labour getting these grounds up that goes largely unacknowledged that should be shared around - as should the benefits.

Perhaps a rotational finals venue could be an option. I know that Stocky/Nuri seems to get the A1 2 day GF most years, perhaps the A1 1 day should be rotated, and the 2 day be selected to reward the best venue (or also rotated)

If finals are going to be played at Eudunda occasionally, surely it most likely that this will take place when these games involve Northern sides - such as Gilbert Valley, so it shouldnt be suprising that this is the venue. I predicted the second I saw the competing sides that it would be Kapunda or Eudunda.

[daysofourlives]

You make very good points timmie, are you on the exec?

Grand Final is at Tanunda also so venues are being shared around. Also keep in mind that we endeavour to make sure that the same grounds for semi and G/F are not used so as to advantage one team that played their semi there the week before and also that the competing teams are not playing their regular saturday game at the same venue as sunday

[TimmiesChin]

You make very good points timmie, are you on the exec?

I'm the president

Nah - just someone that's aware of the troubles they have to deal with - running a comp. is a pretty thankless task.

[Stewie Griffin]

I remember a 1-day semi Ango played against Tanunda some 5 or so years ago,
Ango had choice of venue, and the captain of the time (daysof) selected Eudunda.
Co-incidence, I think not.
Me thinks the big-man has a love of the oval, or of course the goat could be a factor.
As memory serves me we lost that game in the 39th or 40th over too Daysof,
hope it's not an omen.

[Stewie Griffin]

Also that 1-day semi in question was played in 44 degree heat and 100% humidity,
backing up from the 42 Degree Saturday.
Where was the damn heat rule back then?

[TimmiesChin]

Also that 1-day semi in question was played in 44 degree heat and 100% humidity,
backing up from the 42 Degree Saturday.
Where was the damn heat rule back then?

us modern cricketers are too soft .......

[TimmiesChin]

I remember a 1-day semi Ango played against Tanunda some 5 or so years ago,
Ango had choice of venue, and the captain of the time (daysof) selected Eudunda.
Co-incidence, I think not.
Me thinks the big-man has a love of the oval, or of course the goat could be a factor.
As memory serves me we lost that game in the 39th or 40th over too Daysof,
hope it's not an omen.

Knowing the almost anal shrewdness of daysof, I'm guessing he chose Eudunda because either Tanunda had a bad record playing there, or he know that one of Tanundas key players needed to be on the valley on the day in question hence would have to pull out if the game was at Eudunda ..... or he knew the all you can eat $9.90 smorgasborg and bottomless Steins were on offer at the Light Hotel that night, with live entertainment from the goat.

[Jimmy Hurd]

Hopefully soon the association will actually be run by a committee and not one person dictating all of the decisions.
Having the venues up on my cricket then to change them shows incompitence. Why not finalise the grounds then put the proper grounds up. If you wanted a mid way point for Angaston and Gilbert valley how about Kapunda.

I do like the sound of a rotation of finals especially for the a1 grade. While Kapunda are not in the top grade our turf deck should not be forgotten. There are 4 x semi finals and 2 x grand finals in A1 cricket each year and 6 turf decks, i dont think it would be to hard to spread the A1 finals over these 6 venues.

Thanks to the Nuri Cricket club the Kapunda was able to fundraise some money via the recent Twenty20 comp.

[daysofourlives]

Hopefully soon the association will actually be run by a committee and not one person dictating all of the decisions.
Having the venues up on my cricket then to change them shows incompitence. Why not finalise the grounds then put the proper grounds up. If you wanted a mid way point for Angaston and Gilbert valley how about Kapunda.

I do like the sound of a rotation of finals especially for the a1 grade. While Kapunda are not in the top grade our turf deck should not be forgotten. There are 4 x semi finals and 2 x grand finals in A1 cricket each year and 6 turf decks, i dont think it would be to hard to spread the A1 finals over these 6 venues.

Thanks to the Nuri Cricket club the Kapunda was able to fundraise some money via the recent Twenty20 comp.

ur not from kapunda anyway jason oops i mean jimmy turd

[daysofourlives]

Hopefully soon the association will actually be run by a committee and not one person dictating all of the decisions.
Having the venues up on my cricket then to change them shows incompitence. Why not finalise the grounds then put the proper grounds up. If you wanted a mid way point for Angaston and Gilbert valley how about Kapunda.

I do like the sound of a rotation of finals especially for the a1 grade. While Kapunda are not in the top grade our turf deck should not be forgotten. There are 4 x semi finals and 2 x grand finals in A1 cricket each year and 6 turf decks, i dont think it would be to hard to spread the A1 finals over these 6 venues.

Thanks to the Nuri Cricket club the Kapunda was able to fundraise some money via the recent Twenty20 comp.

Your welcome to do all the programming turd,
I am not going to call everyone on the committee or have a delegates meeting to select 2 ovals, that is just absurd, if u want that changed bring it up at the next delegates meeting.
Put up or shut up!

I have highlighted in bold the ultimate in incompEtence for u

[Jimmy Hurd]

Sorry my name isnt Jason, not sure who you are referring to

[BoundaryRider84]

BR84 52 + 6 = 58
Jim05 49 + 5 = 54
James07 48 + 6 = 54
UTP 49 + 4 = 52
Norm11 48 + 3 = 51 (Lowest Score of 3)
TC 47 + 3 = 50
Angry 44 + 7 = 47 (Lowest Score of 3)
Days 42 + 3 = 45
Donkey 38 + 5 = 43

[The Angry Bull]

I wouldve thought an average of 17 at the champs doesnt meet them.
Them stats dont lie mate

At least that average is consistent with his town ave. I guess. (I dont know bull by the way, so I'm just looking at numbers)

As for making rep sides, its always been an inside game, so not a true indication of a players ability. Back in the dim dark days when timmy could actually get a B&LCA gig, it was obvious from the chats around the selection table that it was and 'in-crowd' gigs. I know that some very handy players weren't picked for reasons other than ability. From what I can gather these days things have changed on that front though.

When the country champs were in SA I was talking to someone involved and it seemed a lot of the new players were getting in on recommendations from current players, rather than raw performances, and that they found it hard to find city players willing/wanting to play. Just take a look at the three higher profile Jets boys, I would have though Bain would be the obvious choice to be chosen for ACCC. For the Outbacks to have any success I think they have to be very selective about the city players they use, and delve deeper when looking at country players.

i would have thought with 7 debutants and a new coach, that they were trying to delve deeper... also very hard when players make themselves unavailable, too bad it didnt work, there is always next year days... a good carnival next week, and come back and smoke you around the comp next year to boost those modest town numbers, i dont see why i couldnt keep my spot, after all theres more to cricket then walking in two steps and rolling out little nudies

[TimmiesChin]

i would have thought with 7 debutants and a new coach, that they were trying to delve deeper... also very hard when players make themselves unavailable, too bad it didnt work, there is always next year days... a good carnival next week, and come back and smoke you around the comp next year to boost those modest town numbers, i dont see why i couldnt keep my spot, after all theres more to cricket then walking in two steps and rolling out little nudies

Hopefully they are working harder at it. Perhaps your right and 7 debutants is a pointer to working hard to improve the situation. Your right about players availability being an issue, perhaps they don't see the opportunity it can present ... someone like Luke Feldman from Queensland is an example.
He competed in the Barossa and was a standout and the exposure got him into the QLD side.

[daysofourlives]

I wouldve thought an average of 17 at the champs doesnt meet them.
Them stats dont lie mate

At least that average is consistent with his town ave. I guess. (I dont know bull by the way, so I'm just looking at numbers)

As for making rep sides, its always been an inside game, so not a true indication of a players ability. Back in the dim dark days when timmy could actually get a B&LCA gig, it was obvious from the chats around the selection table that it was and 'in-crowd' gigs. I know that some very handy players weren't picked for reasons other than ability. From what I can gather these days things have changed on that front though.

When the country champs were in SA I was talking to someone involved and it seemed a lot of the new players were getting in on recommendations from current players, rather than raw performances, and that they found it hard to find city players willing/wanting to play. Just take a look at the three higher profile Jets boys, I would have though Bain would be the obvious choice to be chosen for ACCC. For the Outbacks to have any success I think they have to be very selective about the city players they use, and delve deeper when looking at country players.

i would have thought with 7 debutants and a new coach, that they were trying to delve deeper... also very hard when players make themselves unavailable, too bad it didnt work, there is always next year days... a good carnival next week, and come back and smoke you around the comp next year to boost those modest town numbers, i dont see why i couldnt keep my spot, after all theres more to cricket then walking in two steps and rolling out little nudies

Cant see u smacking me around bull, that would require u to survive for 15 overs
By the way it was TC that wrote the above quote to which you refer to in your post

[BoundaryRider84]

A1's
SANDY CREEK v Light Pass
ANGASTON v Gilbert Valley
Greenock v GAWLER CENTRALS
NURIOOTPA v Tanunda

A1 One Day
ANGASTON v Gilbert Valley
NURIOOTPA v Sandy Creek

Res.
SOUTH GAWLER v Eudunda
Lyndoch v KAPUNDA
Freeling v TRURO