Adelaide Hills Cricket (Hills, A&EH, TV) 2010-11

[jackpot jim]

i see Stidston of Ashbourne was given out LBW, never thought id see the day when this would happen.

Now they're in 'A' grade, it's a chance of it happening with the Neutral umpires unlike all those years in 'B' grade when the batting teams supply their own.

[Footy Warrior]

H Reid
D Brown
R Reid
K Dawe
R Hunter
N Grbin
J Mossop
T Williamson
C Dawe
M Sinclair
A Galvin / DuBois

From 5 down all could bat anywhere.

I think you have to remember Cricket is a game of opinions. The Hills team should of won regardless which order they batted they had the players to do it. Nick Grbin would not of made any difference at all the team was 6/20. The team has to be picked on form to some degree and past performances in Association years have to be taken into account. Kris has the best avergae in association cricket (stats are on the Hills Website).

I have checked my sources and Ryan did request to bat down the order so surely that is end of argument no one is doubt his ability at all definately not me.

Ive put up my list how about you boys go ahead now?

That's a lot better than what it was. Perhaps you should have been skipper? Who's your sources too? R.Hunter or R.Reid?

[2jox]

Notable exclusions from the above side in comparion to the hills side which played in the meyer shield were 1 x shaved ape and 1 x jeriatric (both from Uraidla, you do the math). It's just the same old people running the show for the past <insert large amount of time here> so there is no criteria for selection othern than having been in the click. Sinclair the notable acception to this rule however that is probably justified as is almost the best all-rounder in the comp (probably should have been batting higher than 9 too).

[Tooting Bec]

Fair call to say he is the best allrounder in the hills at the moment.

What about Wallis from Aldgate? averaging 30 odd and has taken 20 wickets this season...

Or Tarone is about the same stats too since he has started opening the batting.

[Bat Pad]

Notable exclusions from the above side in comparion to the hills side which played in the meyer shield were 1 x shaved ape and 1 x jeriatric (both from Uraidla, you do the math). It's just the same old people running the show for the past <insert large amount of time here> so there is no criteria for selection othern than having been in the click. Sinclair the notable acception to this rule however that is probably justified as is almost the best all-rounder in the comp (probably should have been batting higher than 9 too).

Rohan Reid better bowler, better batter and probably better fielder. Dunno who wins when it comes carrying the drinks. Think that covers the game of cricket.

[2jox]

BP,

Please refer to my use of the word "almost" prior to saying "best all rounder in the competition".

I would think there would be a few obvious choices - Reid, Hunter, Dyl Brown who would all be better in one area (if not both) than Sinclair. My point is that he would be in the top handful in the comp and is deservedly playing additionally may deserve to have been batting higher up the order.

I cant really comment on Sinclair's fielding I haven't seen it that much, care to share your thoughts. Given your last post I would assume you have some knowledge of the matter?

Good use of the quote tool though. Really nailed the statement.......

[2jox]

Further to my previous post.

I listed 3 names who would be better all-rounders. To put that in context, when you consider the entire league being (approximately) 4th on the list is almost the best all rounder in the league.

Just like you almost have mastered the theory / execution of quoting someone.

[DKL]

Notable exclusions from the above side in comparion to the hills side which played in the meyer shield were 1 x shaved ape and 1 x jeriatric (both from Uraidla, you do the math). It's just the same old people running the show for the past <insert large amount of time here> so there is no criteria for selection othern than having been in the click. Sinclair the notable acception to this rule however that is probably justified as is almost the best all-rounder in the comp (probably should have been batting higher than 9 too).

Rohan Reid better bowler, better batter and probably better fielder. Dunno who wins when it comes carrying the drinks. Think that covers the game of cricket.

If Reid is a better bowler, why the hell would they pick Sinclair in the 1st place? Rohan is a pedestrian Medium Pacer at Best, so you would hope that Sinclair would bring something to the table?

[youngpace]

No question hills when on is a dam good assoc side! and Dont know if sacking the skip is the way to go. Alot of talk about the batting of the hills, but they also had a fairly handy bowling attack, Galvin is a good honest fast bowler and did pepper in some good short balls (apparently Hit 3 in the head on there saturday game) glad i dont have to face him in the round to round year!

[alice the camel]

Was the B.Slack named in the echunga team the same Ben Slack that played for Aldgate??

Would be a fairly handy inclusion for the demons finals charge!

[youngpace]

Was the B.Slack named in the echunga team the same Ben Slack that played for Aldgate??

Would be a fairly handy inclusion for the demons finals charge!

Yes it was, he is only playing for this game to help out tho and would be unable to play finals regardles, as each player must play atleast five weeks of cricket in the season to play finals. Shame however as he was/is a gun cricketer

[Bat Pad]

Further to my previous post.

I listed 3 names who would be better all-rounders. To put that in context, when you consider the entire league being (approximately) 4th on the list is almost the best all rounder in the league.

Just like you almost have mastered the theory / execution of quoting someone.

How many all-rounders are there in the league? 10? 4th (at best) out of ten is hardly close to the top.

[Bat Pad]

Further to my previous post.

I listed 3 names who would be better all-rounders. To put that in context, when you consider the entire league being (approximately) 4th on the list is almost the best all rounder in the league.

Just like you almost have mastered the theory / execution of quoting someone.

How many all-rounders are there in the league? 10? 4th (at best) out of ten is hardly close to the top.

Oh and just on that, it wouldn't matter if he was second on the list. It matters if he is anywhere near the best in terms of ability, not how many people are between him and the best. If the only two golfers in the world were me and Tiger Woods, would I be almost the best golfer? And trust me, I struggle to clear the ladies tee most of the time.

[2jox]

Disagree with a number of points you raised in that fairly weak argument.

1. (I don't think) There isn't a huge difference in class between Reid & Sinclair. Reid is obviously a better bat however, as a couple of posters also suggested, Sinclair would debatably be better with the ball. As for fielding I am still waiting for your response as I am not aware of the ability of either of the afore mentioned players in the field.

2. I think there are probably more than the 10 "all rounders" (people who bat and bowl, not neccesarily well) in the Hills league and as I said previously Sinclair would "almost be the best" ie. he would be towards the top of the list.

To directly address the golfing example you gave (which I aknowledge was partly an attempt at humour) I would consider Sinclair to be "anywhere near the best in terms of ability". But the fact that you are arguing this at all is suprising.... I am now asuming you don't actually play in the league (though are obviously associated with MCC is some form).

[flanker]

What is with this Sinclair v Reid debate, there are obviously two differing views here and it might just have to settle at that! Reid is the best bat in the comp, and Sinclair is 3rd on the wickets, lets just leave it at that! I'm sure Sinclair would agree that he would need to make more runs himself before he is classified as a top of the table allrounder!

To the lead up to finals, Uraidla look to be struggling at the moment with two losses in a row to bottom four sides. Looking good for another Onkas v Meadows match up!

[Justquietly]

What is with this Sinclair v Reid debate, there are obviously two differing views here and it might just have to settle at that! Reid is the best bat in the comp, and Sinclair is 3rd on the wickets, lets just leave it at that! I'm sure Sinclair would agree that he would need to make more runs himself before he is classified as a top of the table allrounder!

To the lead up to finals, Uraidla look to be struggling at the moment with two losses in a row to bottom four sides. Looking good for another Onkas v Meadows match up!

Yup, annoyingly it's hard to see it going any other way.

[alice the camel]

Disagree with a number of points you raised in that fairly weak argument.

1. (I don't think) There isn't a huge difference in class between Reid & Sinclair. Reid is obviously a better bat however, as a couple of posters also suggested, Sinclair would debatably be better with the ball. As for fielding I am still waiting for your response as I am not aware of the ability of either of the afore mentioned players in the field.

2. I think there are probably more than the 10 "all rounders" (people who bat and bowl, not neccesarily well) in the Hills league and as I said previously Sinclair would "almost be the best" ie. he would be towards the top of the list.

To directly address the golfing example you gave (which I aknowledge was partly an attempt at humour) I would consider Sinclair to be "anywhere near the best in terms of ability". But the fact that you are arguing this at all is suprising.... I am now asuming you don't actually play in the league (though are obviously associated with MCC is some form).

Fantastically articulate and salient points there, 2J - and beautifully expressed in dot-point form. However, the MASSIVE difference in Reid v Sinclair with the bat and the debatable edge Sinclair holds with the ball (although more wickets doesn't necessarily justify this) would give the points - by a fair margin - to R Reid. You may have inadvertently been aware of this truth when you said ...."(I don't think) There isn't a huge difference in class between Reid & Sinclair....".

[2jox]

I do appreciate that others may not have the same opinion hence the " ( ..... ) ". But good point Alice, well said.

[Dutchy]

Bat - Reid > Sink
Bowl - Sink > Reid

Dont think anyone could argue any different

[Bat Pad]

Bat - Reid > Sink
Bowl - Sink > Reid

Dont think anyone could argue any different

Bowling

Rohan Reid career average 12.65

Mark Sinclair career average 19.00 (16.4 at Lofty, 21.61 at B/Water)

Batting

Rohan Reid career average 65.35

Mark Sinclair career average 23.32 (20.54 at Mt Lofty, 26.11 B/W)

Stats dont lie.

Reid better bowler by heaps
Reid better batter by daylight.