Para Districts Cricket Association 2010-11

[Lightning McQueen]

Very interesting day's cricket at Smithfield Oval yesterday. After the lodge winning a crucial toss we never really looked at ease losing consistent wickets, one of our players got an emergency call-out and we were hoping to make it through to tea for him to get back, unfortunately we lost our 9th wicket with 8 minutes remaining, a bit of a shame as I was well on my way to a ton .
Hoots bowled extremely well until he got a bit of a side strain I think, Sibbs was his usual reliable self and Leigh Harrison picked up 4 wickets.
After having the Lodge 4/22 they have steadied the ship somewhat through Hargreaves who is still at the crease on 19 as they are 5/54 in reply to our dismal 75.

[SmithyOTH]

Is it just me or do OTH selectors have rocks in their heads. They select 2 guys from their c grade into their A grade pick a player who spat it at his team mates last week and threatened to quit the club in their A grade and dropped one of their leading bowlers in their B grade to their C grade.

Are they chasing a C grade finals berth?

when 5 a graders are not available, you gotta pick someone dont you? you cant just pick them out of thin air. I dont even understand why you would come on here and question that. The best 11 blokes available were picked and they got the job done. Simple

[catchit]

Pretty boring day yest but parafield played well to get 150 with not many attacking shots...at tea they were 3 for 90odd off 45 overs, then scored another 60odd off the last 25 overs...will be a good chase and it is what we need atm..

[catchit]

Angle Vale 79
SW 7/83dec

Angle Vale 1/8

Geez with Brahma and R&C highly unlikely to pull off an outright, this could see SW race to the top if they get the job done next week. Did not see the above result occuring before the start of play (1st inns after Day 1)

The way this year has gone,you dont give vale any chance of a reversal? I think if they can get over the hundred mark they are a big chance...not many teams dominating with the bat lately...

[sports follower]

Is it just me or do OTH selectors have rocks in their heads. They select 2 guys from their c grade into their A grade pick a player who spat it at his team mates last week and threatened to quit the club in their A grade and dropped one of their leading bowlers in their B grade to their C grade.

Are they chasing a C grade finals berth?

You upset about something SF??? I actually took the gloves (and have been keeping for a few weeks now) and felt like i did a pretty good job. Fumbled a couple but no byes and took a couple of catches, job done until Fanta is back next week.

Pretty sure if OTH were chasing a C grade finals birth both duckman and I would have been in the C's and your boys would have been chasing more than 170 odd...

yeah! on my form they would be chasing 171 odd :lol:

If OTH didnt declare they would be chasing more!

[Masha]

Angle Vale 79
SW 7/83dec

Angle Vale 1/8

Geez with Brahma and R&C highly unlikely to pull off an outright, this could see SW race to the top if they get the job done next week. Did not see the above result occuring before the start of play (1st inns after Day 1)

The way this year has gone,you dont give vale any chance of a reversal? I think if they can get over the hundred mark they are a big chance...not many teams dominating with the bat lately...

I guess it is always a possibility considering SW barely got a first innings lead before the declaration. I would be betting on either SW outright, or just a first innings win. Either way, they will be getting some valuable points out of it.

[sports follower]

Is it just me or do OTH selectors have rocks in their heads. They select 2 guys from their c grade into their A grade pick a player who spat it at his team mates last week and threatened to quit the club in their A grade and dropped one of their leading bowlers in their B grade to their C grade.

Are they chasing a C grade finals berth?

You upset about something SF??? I actually took the gloves (and have been keeping for a few weeks now) and felt like i did a pretty good job. Fumbled a couple but no byes and took a couple of catches, job done until Fanta is back next week.

Pretty sure if OTH were chasing a C grade finals birth both duckman and I would have been in the C's and your boys would have been chasing more than 170 odd...

Not upset at all Broca, just stirring mate.

Have you ever kept before?

[duck-mann]

If OTH didnt declare they would be chasing more!

that declaration doesnt make sense to me (I made a similar one going back a while and we lost first innings by 3 runs!) I learnt the hard way as a captain you should bat the 65/70 overs allocated in the 1st week and if you want/need outright then back your bowlers to do the job in week 2

[Phantom Gossiper]

that declaration doesnt make sense to me (I made a similar one going back a while and we lost first innings by 3 runs!) I learnt the hard way as a captain you should bat the 65/70 overs allocated in the 1st week and if you want/need outright then back your bowlers to do the job in week 2

I dont agree. If I need an outright ill give myself 10 or 15 overs at the end of the day to try and make inroads into the batting.
Also if you are actively chasing an outright, obviously your team would be aware and later in your innings you would bat with greater intent and score runs more quickly.
3rd if you are chasing an outright, chances are you a playing a team who you obviously fancy your chances against, i mean you wouldn't see say Smithfield focusing on beating Salis West outright in grade 1.

[duck-mann]

that declaration doesnt make sense to me (I made a similar one going back a while and we lost first innings by 3 runs!) I learnt the hard way as a captain you should bat the 65/70 overs allocated in the 1st week and if you want/need outright then back your bowlers to do the job in week 2

I dont agree. If I need an outright ill give myself 10 or 15 overs at the end of the day to try and make inroads into the batting.
Also if you are actively chasing an outright, obviously your team would be aware and later in your innings you would bat with greater intent and score runs more quickly.
3rd if you are chasing an outright, chances are you a playing a team who you obviously fancy your chances against, i mean you wouldn't see say Smithfield focusing on beating Salis West outright in grade 1.

in this case, OTH need an outright to make finals basically (its a bit more complex than that I think but I dont know the full details) and they are playing the 2nd or 3rd placed team two games in a row.... i would think they need to make sure they win first innings first! you go into the game knowing that the side youre playing against is better than you - over the season so far, if not on paper - and you MUST WIN. surely you look for 6 points first but do it with 2nd innings in the back of your mind. If you go too hard too early and lose first innings youve shot yourself in the foot...

[Phantom Gossiper]

in this case, OTH need an outright to make finals basically (its a bit more complex than that I think but I dont know the full details) and they are playing the 2nd or 3rd placed team two games in a row.... i would think they need to make sure they win first innings first! you go into the game knowing that the side youre playing against is better than you - over the season so far, if not on paper - and you MUST WIN. surely you look for 6 points first but do it with 2nd innings in the back of your mind. If you go too hard too early and lose first innings youve shot yourself in the foot...

Yes this is true, guess you need to make sure you have an astute captain whose getting his numbers right before the game. If you dont necessarily win outright to make finals but rather gain two 1st innings wins in the remaining rounds then that surely would be your goal?
Having said that, if you 100% need to win outright, well i say go for it, be over aggressive, if you dont win outright your done anyway so might as well go hard.

[Thats Gold]

Is it just me or do OTH selectors have rocks in their heads. They select 2 guys from their c grade into their A grade pick a player who spat it at his team mates last week and threatened to quit the club in their A grade and dropped one of their leading bowlers in their B grade to their C grade.

Must admit SF has a point as there seems to be some weird @rse selection decisions being made up the hill. Ive heard from a source that trainings are a joke and selection is unprofessional.................. but hey each to their own.

[duck-mann]

in this case, OTH need an outright to make finals basically (its a bit more complex than that I think but I dont know the full details) and they are playing the 2nd or 3rd placed team two games in a row.... i would think they need to make sure they win first innings first! you go into the game knowing that the side youre playing against is better than you - over the season so far, if not on paper - and you MUST WIN. surely you look for 6 points first but do it with 2nd innings in the back of your mind. If you go too hard too early and lose first innings youve shot yourself in the foot...

Yes this is true, guess you need to make sure you have an astute captain whose getting his numbers right before the game. If you dont necessarily win outright to make finals but rather gain two 1st innings wins in the remaining rounds then that surely would be your goal?
Having said that, if you 100% need to win outright, well i say go for it, be over aggressive, if you dont win outright your done anyway so might as well go hard.

i think there is more chance of divine intervention than astute captaining

[broca011]

Is it just me or do OTH selectors have rocks in their heads. They select 2 guys from their c grade into their A grade pick a player who spat it at his team mates last week and threatened to quit the club in their A grade and dropped one of their leading bowlers in their B grade to their C grade.

Are they chasing a C grade finals berth?

You upset about something SF??? I actually took the gloves (and have been keeping for a few weeks now) and felt like i did a pretty good job. Fumbled a couple but no byes and took a couple of catches, job done until Fanta is back next week.

Pretty sure if OTH were chasing a C grade finals birth both duckman and I would have been in the C's and your boys would have been chasing more than 170 odd...

Not upset at all Broca, just stirring mate.

Have you ever kept before?

I've been keeping the past couple of matches in the C's and found it much easier yesterday (especially once i settled)...

[broca011]

Is it just me or do OTH selectors have rocks in their heads. They select 2 guys from their c grade into their A grade pick a player who spat it at his team mates last week and threatened to quit the club in their A grade and dropped one of their leading bowlers in their B grade to their C grade.

Must admit SF has a point as there seems to be some weird @rse selection decisions being made up the hill. Ive heard from an inside source that trainings are a joke and selection is unprofessional.................. but hey each to their own.

Looking at another side the seems to be some weird @rse selections down the hill...

[fineleg2fineleg]

that declaration doesnt make sense to me (I made a similar one going back a while and we lost first innings by 3 runs!) I learnt the hard way as a captain you should bat the 65/70 overs allocated in the 1st week and if you want/need outright then back your bowlers to do the job in week 2

I dont agree. If I need an outright ill give myself 10 or 15 overs at the end of the day to try and make inroads into the batting.
Also if you are actively chasing an outright, obviously your team would be aware and later in your innings you would bat with greater intent and score runs more quickly.
3rd if you are chasing an outright, chances are you a playing a team who you obviously fancy your chances against, i mean you wouldn't see say Smithfield focusing on beating Salis West outright in grade 1.

totally agree. i was playing in the game in question. we definately fancy our chances in this game of gettin an outirhgt. we scored 176 in 56 overs. leaving ourself 9 overs to have a crack at the end of the day. we have them 2-22. so yeh duck-mann it was a gamble and one that could come back to bite us. but we feel we have the bowling attack to do some serious damage to craigmore. and the declaration has worked well in our favour as we snared 2 wickets at the end. and keepin in mind that 176 on that ground is reckon would be worth 220-230 on a quicker oval. its a decent size oval but is incredibly slow. its as slow as OTHs ground up the hill. very few teams have have scored 170 from what im lead to believe. 140-150 is extremely competitive on that ground i think. we are going to look to come out next week n hit craigmore real hard with our 2 openers n hopefully roll them for under 100.

Duckman u were obviously a conservative captain. to win extraordinary games in extraordinary fashion you have to have extraordinary plans. but it is risk versus reward. take more risk and get higher rewards. we need the highest possible reward in the form of an outright so we have to take as much risk as possible. n to be honest 176 on the board is not too high a risk, n a huge amount of that risk has been negated after takin 2 early wickets

[fineleg2fineleg]

Is it just me or do OTH selectors have rocks in their heads. They select 2 guys from their c grade into their A grade pick a player who spat it at his team mates last week and threatened to quit the club in their A grade and dropped one of their leading bowlers in their B grade to their C grade.

Must admit SF has a point as there seems to be some weird @rse selection decisions being made up the hill. Ive heard from an inside source that trainings are a joke and selection is unprofessional.................. but hey each to their own.

what are u talkin about TG. One tree hill As have lost there 2 previous games in pretty disappointing fashion i think. this week they picked a side that won in fairly convincing fashion and look in a very good position for an outright against a side who was pushing for finals. please explain to me captain fantastic what was weird about that selection. a side was put on the park n the side won the game. cant argue with results ya clown.

[duck-mann]

that declaration doesnt make sense to me (I made a similar one going back a while and we lost first innings by 3 runs!) I learnt the hard way as a captain you should bat the 65/70 overs allocated in the 1st week and if you want/need outright then back your bowlers to do the job in week 2

I dont agree. If I need an outright ill give myself 10 or 15 overs at the end of the day to try and make inroads into the batting.
Also if you are actively chasing an outright, obviously your team would be aware and later in your innings you would bat with greater intent and score runs more quickly.
3rd if you are chasing an outright, chances are you a playing a team who you obviously fancy your chances against, i mean you wouldn't see say Smithfield focusing on beating Salis West outright in grade 1.

totally agree. i was playing in the game in question. we definately fancy our chances in this game of gettin an outirhgt. we scored 176 in 56 overs. leaving ourself 9 overs to have a crack at the end of the day. we have them 2-22. so yeh duck-mann it was a gamble and one that could come back to bite us. but we feel we have the bowling attack to do some serious damage to craigmore. and the declaration has worked well in our favour as we snared 2 wickets at the end. and keepin in mind that 176 on that ground is reckon would be worth 220-230 on a quicker oval. its a decent size oval but is incredibly slow. its as slow as OTHs ground up the hill. very few teams have have scored 170 from what im lead to believe. 140-150 is extremely competitive on that ground i think. we are going to look to come out next week n hit craigmore real hard with our 2 openers n hopefully roll them for under 100.

Duckman u were obviously a conservative captain. to win extraordinary games in extraordinary fashion you have to have extraordinary plans. but it is risk versus reward. take more risk and get higher rewards. we need the highest possible reward in the form of an outright so we have to take as much risk as possible. n to be honest 176 on the board is not too high a risk, n a huge amount of that risk has been negated after takin 2 early wickets

explain how you came to that conclusion? If you read properly it says I made a similar declaration at one stage when I was captaining... therefor going by your opinion i took a risk to

win extraordinary games in extraordinary fashion

and it came back to bight us hard. and your 2 wickets is great, the game I made this similar declaration we had the oposition 2 for less than 10 from about 6 overs with J.McKenzie opening the bowling in about grade 6 at the time i beleive I didnt say the declaration wouldnt pay off, I just said that in my experience it was an unnecessary risk. Especially when you play the same team in round 14. why not just take first innings this game, let them know you can beat them, and do it convincingly without taking such risks, and then kick 'em while theyre down next round by going for the outright?? Just MO of course...

[Thats Gold]

Is it just me or do OTH selectors have rocks in their heads. They select 2 guys from their c grade into their A grade pick a player who spat it at his team mates last week and threatened to quit the club in their A grade and dropped one of their leading bowlers in their B grade to their C grade.

Must admit SF has a point as there seems to be some weird @rse selection decisions being made up the hill. Ive heard from an inside source that trainings are a joke and selection is unprofessional.................. but hey each to their own.

what are u talkin about TG. One tree hill As have lost there 2 previous games in pretty disappointing fashion i think. this week they picked a side that won in fairly convincing fashion and look in a very good position for an outright against a side who was pushing for finals. please explain to me captain fantastic what was weird about that selection. a side was put on the park n the side won the game. cant argue with results ya clown.

Was referring more to you being dropped to the C Grade rather than your A Grade's result you muppet! Whats the point in trying to get your C's into the finals if you personally dont qualify anyway?

[howzat]

hey executive member are you talking about the players ttg have put in there div 8 side???

correct - but hey they play by the rules as it stands and we have to just keep on winning
we probably get tarnished with we have blokes that should be playing higher in the club but a bit of difference from ex District players to ex Para Districts average Grade 1 players



yep agree we play them this week so will be interesting to see how we go!!!

[/quote]


well executive member we thought we were in the game saturday against tee tree gully we got lindhart for 13 thanks to a blinder of a catch by aaron ooyendyk we then got martin for 17 they were 2/62 after 20 enter john lucas 105no he smashed it everywhere pitt made 47 sleep made 25no to end up putting tee tree gully 4/256 after 40

we then made 9/150 in reply lindhart pitt sleep are very good players tee tree gully will have an awesome side come finals time with hitting power right down to number 11 how any other div 8 side can beat them i dont know they are just too good now and the way its looking we will have them in the finals you guys will have bangladesh tigers