Para Districts Cricket Association 2010-11

[Papas]

Not you LM, I appreciate your comments, I meant that nasty Papas from Craigmore.....

I have been thinking about that and I reckon C grade teams or 'Middle" teams at clubs can be the most difficult to get to gel. You have the older blokes who perhaps dont want the pressure or are not quite up to playing higer anymore. But still expect the game to be played at a decent standard playing with guys who are good enough to play higher but dont have the desire or the disipline. It can be an ugly mix.

Hey im just commenting on posts you guys should PM instead. Its better knowing who you are now though so these comments have more direction.

[Dogmatic]

is that like what TT Gully had to do this year
dont think we would bother as the list would be too long as our D & E Grade sides have probably used over 50 players between them

However I will go out on a limb and say that either the Semi or Grand Final will be my last ever PDCA game (thats if I get picked)

As much as I'd rather see you guys in the PDCA, I'd rather see you find another turf wicket and move your whole senior group to ATCA. It opens up too much of a can of worms having players in two associations, not a fan of the TTG scenario either.
Are you retiring or just not playing PDCA?

probably back into retirement LM
although I would like to get at least 1 game on The Lodge's new deck before I give it away for good
might be able to swing my 250th there - nice round number to go out on

Won't it be the A's & B's who play there?

[bothamsfearnley]

Not you LM, I appreciate your comments, I meant that nasty Papas from Craigmore.....

I have been thinking about that and I reckon C grade teams or 'Middle" teams at clubs can be the most difficult to get to gel. You have the older blokes who perhaps dont want the pressure or are not quite up to playing higer anymore. But still expect the game to be played at a decent standard playing with guys who are good enough to play higher but dont have the desire or the disipline. It can be an ugly mix.

Hey im just commenting on posts you guys should PM instead. Its better knowing who you are now though so these comments have more direction.

I wasn't referring to our C grade in particular, more middle grades in general. Its not really a secret who I am mate, just an old bloke slowly dropping down the grades!

[Lightning McQueen]

Not you LM, I appreciate your comments, I meant that nasty Papas from Craigmore.....

I have been thinking about that and I reckon C grade teams or 'Middle" teams at clubs can be the most difficult to get to gel. You have the older blokes who perhaps dont want the pressure or are not quite up to playing higer anymore. But still expect the game to be played at a decent standard playing with guys who are good enough to play higher but dont have the desire or the disipline. It can be an ugly mix.

Hey im just commenting on posts you guys should PM instead. Its better knowing who you are now though so these comments have more direction.

I'm glad no one's worked out who I am yet

I did have a fella ask me during the year while I was watching an A grade game "Who's this Lighnting McQueen character? I know he plays for Smithfield A's"
I replied "Eh, what are you talking about mate, isn't he a cartoon character"
The dude standing next to me almost wet himself.

[OKC!]

I'm glad no one's worked out who I am yet

I did have a fella ask me during the year while I was watching an A grade game "Who's this Lighnting McQueen character? I know he plays for Smithfield A's"
I replied "Eh, what are you talking about mate, isn't he a cartoon character"
The dude standing next to me almost wet himself.

Bahahahahhahahahahahaha

[Executive Member]

is that like what TT Gully had to do this year
dont think we would bother as the list would be too long as our D & E Grade sides have probably used over 50 players between them

However I will go out on a limb and say that either the Semi or Grand Final will be my last ever PDCA game (thats if I get picked)

As much as I'd rather see you guys in the PDCA, I'd rather see you find another turf wicket and move your whole senior group to ATCA. It opens up too much of a can of worms having players in two associations, not a fan of the TTG scenario either.
Are you retiring or just not playing PDCA?

probably back into retirement LM
although I would like to get at least 1 game on The Lodge's new deck before I give it away for good
might be able to swing my 250th there - nice round number to go out on

Won't it be the A's & B's who play there?

correct - hence the praying

[Thats Gold]

I wonder if there will be any "illegal" declarations this week.

Could you elaborate LM?
Something along the lines of 0/0 which i thought i might have seen last Saturday. (Alah Geoff Lawson).
Just on that, if both teams declare their 1st innings at 0/0 do they both acquire 3pts each and then play for the extra 6 outright pts straight up? Or do you need to get at least 1 run on the board before declaring?

[bothamsfearnley]

I wonder if there will be any "illegal" declarations this week.

Could you elaborate LM?
Something along the lines of 0/0 which i thought i might have seen last Saturday. (Alah Geoff Lawson).
Just on that, if both teams declare their 1st innings at 0/0 do they both acquire 3pts each and then play for the extra 6 outright pts straight up? Or do you need to get at least 1 run on the board before declaring?

I think in grade or ATCA not sure which, they play a one day game in the last round to prevent that sort of stuff - what does everyone think about that?

[Phantom Gossiper]

I wonder if there will be any "illegal" declarations this week.

Could you elaborate LM?
Something along the lines of 0/0 which i thought i might have seen last Saturday. (Alah Geoff Lawson).
Just on that, if both teams declare their 1st innings at 0/0 do they both acquire 3pts each and then play for the extra 6 outright pts straight up? Or do you need to get at least 1 run on the board before declaring?

Hmm think the sides really need the 12pts this week, not the 9 but it raises some pretty good points and situations!

[catchit]

I wonder if there will be any "illegal" declarations this week.

Could you elaborate LM?
Something along the lines of 0/0 which i thought i might have seen last Saturday. (Alah Geoff Lawson).
Just on that, if both teams declare their 1st innings at 0/0 do they both acquire 3pts each and then play for the extra 6 outright pts straight up? Or do you need to get at least 1 run on the board before declaring?

I think in grade or ATCA not sure which, they play a one day game in the last round to prevent that sort of stuff - what does everyone think about that?

2 reasons i dont like it...1.. Onedayer before a 2 day final...2.. We need a outright

[catchit]

Not you LM, I appreciate your comments, I meant that nasty Papas from Craigmore.....

I have been thinking about that and I reckon C grade teams or 'Middle" teams at clubs can be the most difficult to get to gel. You have the older blokes who perhaps dont want the pressure or are not quite up to playing higer anymore. But still expect the game to be played at a decent standard playing with guys who are good enough to play higher but dont have the desire or the disipline. It can be an ugly mix.

Hey im just commenting on posts you guys should PM instead. Its better knowing who you are now though so these comments have more direction.

I'm glad no one's worked out who I am yet

I did have a fella ask me during the year while I was watching an A grade game "Who's this Lighnting McQueen character? I know he plays for Smithfield A's"
I replied "Eh, what are you talking about mate, isn't he a cartoon character"
The dude standing next to me almost wet himself.

Thats great..

[catchit]

I wonder if there will be any "illegal" declarations this week.

Could you elaborate LM?
Something along the lines of 0/0 which i thought i might have seen last Saturday. (Alah Geoff Lawson).
Just on that, if both teams declare their 1st innings at 0/0 do they both acquire 3pts each and then play for the extra 6 outright pts straight up? Or do you need to get at least 1 run on the board before declaring?

Hmm think the sides really need the 12pts this week, not the 9 but it raises some pretty good points and situations!

Surely any of those situations would not be allowed with a official umpire? or do they have no say in it? I really dont know anything about it and have never played in a game where a team has dec on 0...has anyone else?

[Grahaml]

Declaring at 0/0 is perfectly legal. Some captains prefer to declare at 0/0 instead of enforcing the follow on to give the incentive of chasing outright points to the opposition. Declaring behind on the second innings isn't legal.

Technically, you have to face a ball before declaring though I think.

[sports follower]

Played in a game a few years back against Gawler Central, we got roughly 100 run lead with 10 wickets in hand and declared then they declared their 2nd innings 0/0 and we won outright.
It was a stinking hot day before the heat policy so we went and had a beer.

[catchit]

Ha, ease up Turbo, the Lodge this season have been the most professional outfit the PDCA has ever seen, I don't think this will affect the top two grades, good for the ratings though.

I personly would put westies in front of the lodge for professionlism..more so when oz was captain.. Not saying the lodge havnt been professional, there has been better though,and results also show that...

[Thats Gold]

Imagine a team sitting 5th 2pts behind 4th after round 13. They deliberatetly share 1st innings pts through declarations as well as having two bites at the cherry for outright pts only to lose. The 4th placed team lose on 1st innings and become replaced by the 5th placed team who they led by 2pts going into the final round! Would this be classed as a dog act?
There are generous declarations to make a game of it in an attempt for a result which is in the interest of both sides but is the above scenario in the spirit of the game??? Any thoughts?

[Thats Gold]

I think in grade or ATCA not sure which, they play a one day game in the last round to prevent that sort of stuff - what does everyone think about that?

Not a bad idea but would it prevent captains from doing it in the penultimate round?
Wouldnt really bother me too much playing a one dayer the last week before a semi final...not an ideal preparation for most though.

[Lightning McQueen]

The rule is meant to read that it is illegal to declare behind the other teams score, this is to prevent manufactured results, fair enough in Shield cricket etc. it is plausible but they play for 4 days and don't get 6 points for each win.
The rule reads "$350 fine for declaring opposiion score (2nd innings)."
Does this mean the 2nd innings of the match or the 2nd innings of the team?

I'll try and get some clarification of what the correct ruling is, back in 2004/2005 there was all sorts of rigging and carton buying going on in the last round and they put in some measures to prevent it happening again.

Fair enough too, I'm sure Angle Vale would be happy with a win this week, what's stopping them declaring at 6/150, getting us to declare at 0/0 and then chasing 206 in a new innings.

[Executive Member]

The rule is meant to read that it is illegal to declare behind the other teams score, this is to prevent manufactured results, fair enough in Shield cricket etc. it is plausible but they play for 4 days and don't get 6 points for each win.
The rule reads "$350 fine for declaring opposiion score (2nd innings)."
Does this mean the 2nd innings of the match or the 2nd innings of the team?

I'll try and get some clarification of what the correct ruling is, back in 2004/2005 there was all sorts of rigging and carton buying going on in the last round and they put in some measures to prevent it happening again.

Fair enough too, I'm sure Angle Vale would be happy with a win this week, what's stopping them declaring at 6/150, getting us to declare at 0/0 and then chasing 206 in a new innings.

If you wanted to set the game up and declare but cant because you are behind the score you can still manufacture the result - all you do is get all the batting side to walk out there and run each other out each ball untill you are all out - would chew up an over at best and gets the innings over within the rules

[Lightning McQueen]

The rule is meant to read that it is illegal to declare behind the other teams score, this is to prevent manufactured results, fair enough in Shield cricket etc. it is plausible but they play for 4 days and don't get 6 points for each win.
The rule reads "$350 fine for declaring opposiion score (2nd innings)."
Does this mean the 2nd innings of the match or the 2nd innings of the team?

I'll try and get some clarification of what the correct ruling is, back in 2004/2005 there was all sorts of rigging and carton buying going on in the last round and they put in some measures to prevent it happening again.

Fair enough too, I'm sure Angle Vale would be happy with a win this week, what's stopping them declaring at 6/150, getting us to declare at 0/0 and then chasing 206 in a new innings.

If you wanted to set the game up and declare but cant because you are behind the score you can still manufacture the result - all you do is get all the batting side to walk out there and run each other out each ball untill you are all out - would chew up an over at best and gets the innings over within the rules

No matter how much was at stake, I could never get out on purpose (I have a hard enough time not getting out on purpose though), and I'm sure 95% of the players would be in the same boat.
Pride and moral ethics outweigh anything.