Jockey Challenge

[JK]

Noonan class act. $2.75 was big price, thanks centrebet.

Gatt $2.60 at start of day , can anyone tell me how many points he ended up with.

[mighty_tiger_79]

last week I think noonan out of 7 races had 4 or 5 pre-post favs

he seems to be getting a lot of live chances in races lately

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last week I think noonan out of 7 races had 4 or 5 pre-post favs

he seems to be getting a lot of live chances in races lately

Grub said to me 6 months ago that this kid is the next Nash Rawiller, he said he has modelled his riding on Nash and is doing it extremely well.
I have been particularly impressed with his riding style, grub says he is now as good as any senior jock going around in melbourne, big wraps, do you all agree?

Were you goping to post anything CP or just quote me

[JK]

Were you goping to post anything CP or just quote me

I quoted you and included a blank line, because thats how many points Gatt scored today

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Myself and grub always have a cackle at the DH that writes for the Tiser and does the form and puts in his comments, 'leading hoop engaged'.

That is always a clear indication for us to stay away.

What would the record be on this bloke in JC's when in the market? I am serious here.... from a punting perspective he is a complete dud.,.... and yet the big stables keep putting him on..... are we missing something?

[JK]

Myself and grub always have a cackle at the DH that writes for the Tiser and does the form and puts in his comments, 'leading hoop engaged'.

That is always a clear indication for us to stay away.

What would the record be on this bloke in JC's when in the market? I am serious here.... from a punting perspective he is a complete dud.,.... and yet the big stables keep putting him on..... are we missing something?

I would guess that with the number of rides he gets, he would be in the top 3 favourites around %80 of the time he rides, and I would guess that of the times he is outright favourite he has won no more than %5 of the time in the last 12 months ... just guesswork like I said, but I'd be surprised if it wasn't close.

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Myself and grub always have a cackle at the DH that writes for the Tiser and does the form and puts in his comments, 'leading hoop engaged'.

That is always a clear indication for us to stay away.

What would the record be on this bloke in JC's when in the market? I am serious here.... from a punting perspective he is a complete dud.,.... and yet the big stables keep putting him on..... are we missing something?

I would guess that with the number of rides he gets, he would be in the top 3 favourites around %80 of the time he rides, and I would guess that of the times he is outright favourite he has won no more than %5 of the time in the last 12 months ... just guesswork like I said, but I'd be surprised if it wasn't close.

Well they are good stats aren't they..... no wonder we rate the man so highly. SO if he is $3 to $5 most of the time and wins 1 in 20 he is ' the leading hoop'.
Just goes to show where SA jockeys are at I suppose. He is without doubt the most over-rated jockey in Australia, closely followed by 'free ride' McEvoy!

[mighty_tiger_79]

Myself and grub always have a cackle at the DH that writes for the Tiser and does the form and puts in his comments, 'leading hoop engaged'.

That is always a clear indication for us to stay away.

What would the record be on this bloke in JC's when in the market? I am serious here.... from a punting perspective he is a complete dud.,.... and yet the big stables keep putting him on..... are we missing something?

his record would be very very poor

i guess there are some jockeys who are good for the JC and there are others who are not

I follow the FIsh (whiting) in WA and yet i wouldnt touch him in a JC market

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very very poor.....that is an understatement........ the punters who back him every meeting are currently camping in the south park lands.

[mighty_tiger_79]

from the sportsman - last saturday

the jockeys table

P. Gatt leads with 27 wins from 212 rides with P/L of -$72.95 - which is $1 staked on every ride at SP odds

[mighty_tiger_79]

SA Jockeys
Trainers
Name Wins 2nds 3rds Outs Strike Rides
1 Paul Gatt 54 39.0 57.0 15 14.20 379
2 Matthew Neilson 53 56.0 52.0 2 14.40 367
3 Clare Lindop 53 34.0 34.5 0 16.40 324
4 Dom Tourneur 53 54.0 50.5 19 11.70 452
5 Justin Potter 51 39.0 55.5 7 11.30 450
6 Simon Price 44 64.0 50.5 7 11.10 396
7 Jordan Frew 41 34.0 46.0 2 10.40 395
8 Adrian Patterson 32 49.0 36.0 2 8.40 381
9 Todd Pannell 30 21.0 24.0 13 12.00 250
10 Troy Baker 27 27.0 28.0 4 9.40 288

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does that include the provincials where he seems to go under every meeting? or are those figures City only?

[OnSong]

SA Jockeys
Trainers
Name Wins 2nds 3rds Outs Strike Rides
1 Paul Gatt 54 39.0 57.0 15 14.20 379
2 Matthew Neilson 53 56.0 52.0 2 14.40 367
3 Clare Lindop 53 34.0 34.5 0 16.40 324
4 Dom Tourneur 53 54.0 50.5 19 11.70 452
5 Justin Potter 51 39.0 55.5 7 11.30 450
6 Simon Price 44 64.0 50.5 7 11.10 396
7 Jordan Frew 41 34.0 46.0 2 10.40 395
8 Adrian Patterson 32 49.0 36.0 2 8.40 381
9 Todd Pannell 30 21.0 24.0 13 12.00 250
10 Troy Baker 27 27.0 28.0 4 9.40 288

Lindop: One less win from over 50 less rides.

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You have to put it in perspective. Gatt rides a lot more horses 'in the market' than another jockey. He rides for the big stables Hayes, McEvoy, and this seasons leading stable David Jolly and Kav on occasions.
Simply put on those figures above for $379 outlay you would get back $304. which is about 80% of your money back...... may as well go lose your money in the pokies at that rate!!!!!!
These figures would not include his poor provincial stats which would be diabolical IMHO.

[WestIndiesWonder24]

Escaped with Jimmy Byrne getting up yesty with brought me only a little down
Going back for more today anyone that likes anything lets discuss this and find a winner!

[scoob]

Escaped with Jimmy Byrne getting up yesty with brought me only a little down
Going back for more today anyone that likes anything lets discuss this and find a winner!

Where has AG gone??? He had a renaissance there for a week or so - then nothing... You can't build up expectations like that and not deliver! AG, AG where art thou AG????

[JK]

Like Avdull and Clark today, but having a bit of trouble seperating them, maybe lean towards Clark given the form he's been in recently ... If looking for a value bet it's that man Nathan Berry again I'd say at $14 (Sportsbet)

[WestIndiesWonder24]

r1 townsville good ride not notified
wonder who will pick this up could be important points>??

[OnSong]

Townsville:

Whiteley Chris 2.80
Babarovich Jason 2.65
Coome Adrian 5.50
Bannon Trinity 14.00
Felix Jeffrey 12.00
Elliott Mark 26.00
Wharton Kelvin 18.00
Any Other Indiv Jock (Town) 11.00

See who picks up that ride!

[WestIndiesWonder24]

Babarovich Jason 2.65
has this guy ever won a JC???