WEIGHT LOSS + the challenge

[Brucetiki]

WEEK 2
119-3
119-3
Break even result
Had a party and a dinner in that week which certainly didnt help
Can report that by being almost Junk free that the hunger cravings are reducing



ACAI BERRY
Interesting reading about this South American food

http://www.magicberry.com.au

Breaking even is still a good result as you haven't gained any weight

[Brucetiki]

Treaded water this week - still 98kg (a loss of 7kg since the start of the year)

[Punk Rooster]

Treaded water this week - still 98kg (a loss of 7kg since the start of the year)

I'll take it that treading water doesn't burn too many calories?

[Barto]

I looked at those diet pills/appetite supressants a while back and noticed a lot of them just seemed to be jammed full of caffeine. I have a medical condition that doesn't react well to caffeine so chose not to try them.

Like protein powders, they're all expensive rubbish. I wish I could have the hundreds of dollars I wasted on Hydroxycuts a few years ago back in my bank account.

Detox is bullshit. Magic berries and extracts are bullshit.

I did try the meal replacement shakes from one of those pharmacy based weight loss campaigns as seen on tv for a couple of months. I got really good results whilst doing bugger all exercise (about 10 kgs in 6 weeks). I had a shake for bfast and 1 for lunch with the only 'real' food allowed during the day being a couple of pieces of fruit. For tea it was steamed veg/salad (no dressing) and a piece of plain lean meat.

After 6 weeks I had had enough of constantly feeling hungry and missed the pleasure of eating food. I put it all back on (with interest) over the next few months.

The biggest mistake people make with dieting is starving their bodies. Imagine telling yourself to 'breath less'. It cant last for long and your body forces you to pick up the breathing rate. Eating is like that. If your body is starving, then it has to force you to pig out at some stage and that's why many dieters find the weight goes back on.

Food isn't just about getting energy into your body, it needs certain nutrients. You can be 'starving' but still be massively overweight. Your body is screaming for these nutrients and forcing you to eat and eat but it still isnt satisfied because it isn't getting what it needs. Healthy, fresh food is the only way to permanent weight loss.

[Q.]

I'd be very wary of protein shakes due to the lack of quality control. They have been shown to contain nandrolone, arsenic, lead etc.

Athletes steer away from supplemental diets these days and focus on using organic foods to satisfy their dietary requirements.

Stay away from all processed foods and stick to fresh fruits and vegetables, nuts, whole grain foods, chicken and fish.

[mal]

A very compelling post by Barto
What Barto has posted is as logical as any post on the weight loss thread
Ive tried shakes, tablets, Ive tried a myriad of weight loss apparent solutions
What they all have in common [for me] is short term weight loss, long term weight gainage

3 ADDICTIONS
EATING too much or wrongly
SMOKING
DRINKING

Of the 3 would eating poorly be the hardest of them all ?
I look at it this way
You dont have to smoke ciggies to stay alive
You dont have to dring grog to stay alive
But you have to eat to stay alive

WEEK 3
121-5 start
119-3 last week
118-9 now

Just stuck at the basics week 3, didnt really try, so a goodish week for me
Basically adhered to Quichey and Bartos foodprint
Also once again,the less garbagey food I eat the more my apetite decreases

Footy seasons coming up
I have a weakness for BBQ snags and patties at the ovals in white bread and tommy sauce, the 2nd and 3rd ones are the prob
Gotta put in some hard dieting b4 the inevitable
Barto seeya at the northern goals, Unley Oval, for a snag ....

[Q.]

Not just the bread and sauce Mal, give the snags a miss too - they're full of fat. Bring a pocket full of almonds and snack on them during the footy.

[Barto]

I've got a lot of personal experience with weight loss and have managed to pretty much keep it off for quite a few years, although I could never actually get myself to the point of being classed as slim until I started with a proper nutrition and exercise plan. That was based on real foods.

There's a bit more to just eating good things but its a massive start, the psychology behind it is probably a bit long winded to go one with here but it's hard to want to get the motivation to exercise and eat well when your body is demanding you stay big.

I've studied sports science at uni with a major in nutrition and have a great deal of understanding in regards to this subject. What Quinchey says is true in regards to the nutrition of athletes, you'll see more blokes walking around with their protein shakers after a workout at WAFL and amateur level than you will at AFL level and its even worse in the commercial gyms.

I've worked as a personal trainer for 7 years now and one of the reasons I left/got driven out of the commercial gyms is because I refused to on-sell or promote rubbish supplements that they gyms use to add to their bottom line. I said to one manager that I couldn't in good conscience sell things to my clients that just dont actually work, you'd think I'd rooted his wife judging by his reaction. The science behind the supplement industry is faulty (ie it isnt actually science), it's more like religion IMO.

[mal]

Barto
If you were 118.9 kgs, what would you do ?
Whats gunna be my best way to get below 100kgs b4 Xmas ?

Bear in mind I have bad feet and cant run /walk at times, so eliminate walking as advice at this stage


My only game plan at present is :
Stretching exercises
Good nutrition
Swimming
Trying to find alternative plans

[Lunchcutter]

Barto
If you were 118.9 kgs, what would you do ?
Whats gunna be my best way to get below 100kgs b4 Xmas ?

Bear in mind I have bad feet and cant run /walk at times, so eliminate walking as advice at this stage


My only game plan at present is :
Stretching exercises
Good nutrition
Swimming
Trying to find alternative plans

I know you didnt ask me Mal but thought after losing a total of 57 kg's over the last two years I can suggest.

NIL or miniMAL sugar (including fizzy drinks etc)
NIL or miniMAL cakes, chocolate or anything else that contains added SUGAR
Increase Activity - I myself walk 3 - 4 ks 4 nights a week and 500 m swim on those nights too
limit carb intake from 4 pm
and most of all stay focussed or you could end up like me with a stuffed pancreas that can not process sugar EVER

Good luck MAL

[Barto]

Barto
If you were 118.9 kgs, what would you do ?
Whats gunna be my best way to get below 100kgs b4 Xmas ?

Bear in mind I have bad feet and cant run /walk at times, so eliminate walking as advice at this stage


My only game plan at present is :
Stretching exercises
Good nutrition
Swimming
Trying to find alternative plans

Weights are the key. Forget about waste of time bicep curls and exercises that isolate smaller muscles, go for compound exercises. Have a chat to a decent trainer. If you join up at a gym, avoid trainers who have just come out of that dodgy 8 week course. If you cant think of anyone Buberis is your man. People reckon they cant afford trainers, but the amount you can save yourself in physio fees later on is worth the expense of buy a couple of sessions and go through the form and technique.

You can spot a knowledgable trainer when they don't do one of the following exercises:

Upright rows
Bicep curls with a straight bar
Anything involving the smith machine, especially bench press and squats.
Pec deck

There's a fair few other dysfunctional exercises, but they're the most popular ones for some reason. If they want you to do any of those exercises, they dont know what they're talking about

For cardio, the exercise bike can be a decent replacement. Find something to do while you're peddling so it isn't boring.

[Barto]

limit carb intake from 4 pm

I'm not sure where this advice keeps coming from but it's not correct. I'm not sure what it means, does it mean no fruit and veg after 4pm? They all have carbohydrates. One mistake that people make is having a large dinner, if you get to the end of the day and you're not hungry, just skip dinner altogether.

The rest is common sense.

[mal]

Barto
If you were 118.9 kgs, what would you do ?
Whats gunna be my best way to get below 100kgs b4 Xmas ?

Bear in mind I have bad feet and cant run /walk at times, so eliminate walking as advice at this stage


My only game plan at present is :
Stretching exercises
Good nutrition
Swimming
Trying to find alternative plans

I know you didnt ask me Mal but thought after losing a total of 57 kg's over the last two years I can suggest.

NIL or miniMAL sugar (including fizzy drinks etc)
NIL or miniMAL cakes, chocolate or anything else that contains added SUGAR
Increase Activity - I myself walk 3 - 4 ks 4 nights a week and 500 m swim on those nights too
limit carb intake from 4 pm
and most of all stay focussed or you could end up like me with a stuffed pancreas that can not process sugar EVER

Good luck MAL

I specifically didnt ask you Lunchcutter
I want to lose about 22 kilos , not 57 kgs !

[mal]

limit carb intake from 4 pm

I'm not sure where this advice keeps coming from but it's not correct. I'm not sure what it means, does it mean no fruit and veg after 4pm? They all have carbohydrates. One mistake that people make is having a large dinner, if you get to the end of the day and you're not hungry, just skip dinner altogether.

The rest is common sense.

Barto
Lunchcutter may have been referring to :
Refined Carbs [processed bikkys and cakes , pastry types, pastas etc ]
High GI carbs


Exercise at home
Will stretch
And then do some weights
And then get the exercise bike out the shed

Bad day today
The meals went the wrong wrong way today

Family wanted Bacon and Eggs, so I did as well
Mate came over , he went to the fish shop and bought me a steak sanga
Missus cooked a Vegetarian Lasagne

Got 10 days in March to go and a special effort is required

[mighty_tiger_79]

time to dig in MAL

dont worry about the 10 days of march

worry about the other 300 days of the year

if you apply the same fierce determination you have when studying the form you will lose the kilos

[Barto]

Barto
Lunchcutter may have been referring to :
Refined Carbs [processed bikkys and cakes , pastry types, pastas etc ]
High GI carbs

Dont eat that kind of thing anyway, it's too energy dense with no nutritional value. But I stand by the statement that "no carbs after 4pm" (I've also heard 3pm touted) is pseudoscience. Have more calories than your body requires and you get big.

Exercise at home
Will stretch
And then do some weights
And then get the exercise bike out the shed

Bad day today
The meals went the wrong wrong way today

Family wanted Bacon and Eggs, so I did as well
Mate came over , he went to the fish shop and bought me a steak sanga
Missus cooked a Vegetarian Lasagne

Got 10 days in March to go and a special effort is required

Probably about two days worth of food there

Bacon and eggs is probably the best of the worst. Dry fry it and take out most of the yolk from the eggs. When I'm frying eggs, I flip them, burst the yolk and when it hardens cut it off with the spatula and throw it in the bin.

Steak sanga isn't great but at least you didn't follow it up with chips.

My guess is the lasagne could be the highest in calories for the day depending on the serving size.

[Phantom Gossiper]

I've hit my typical mid month slump another shocking weekend, and poor day today to back it up

I always seem to start the new month full of running but fall away around about now! Need to work out a way to keep myself on track

[overloaded]

I am considering swallowing a tape worm, apparently it eats all the food you eat and is great in reducing weight. Has anyone heard this?

[JAS]

I am considering swallowing a tape worm, apparently it eats all the food you eat and is great in reducing weight. Has anyone heard this?

Wouldn't recommend it to anyone. But as you said you eat a burger a day I think the malnutrition and loss of vitimins parts could cause you problems...

http://health.howstuffworks.com/wellnes ... -loss2.htm

Regards
JAS

[mal]

MARCH-APRIL
121-5
118-1
Reasonably satisfied for the Month of March
So much so I wont bother eating tapeworms ....


GREEN TEA
Gunna start drinking plenty in April
Reputed to assist in the burning of calories
Also reputed to help preventings of certain cancers
Also meant to help suppressing appetites
I wonder if tapeworms thrive on Green tea ....
I buy a variety of green teas from The Perfect Cup shops

DANDELION TEA
Ive starting drinking this tea about 1 week ago on a regular basis
I actually like the taste, and drink it instead of coffees now
This tea is reputed to being a detoxifier
The brand I buy is Symington Dandelion Tea

STEVIA
Little known sweetener
Going to buy some from the Health Food store[tastes good with coffee or teas]
Stevia can be used instead of sugar, and is reputed to have zero calories
Might be a better alternative than the artificial sweetener Aspartame