Para Districts Cricket Association 2010-11

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Re: Para Districts Cricket Association 2010-11

Postby bothamsfearnley » Fri Mar 25, 2011 12:49 pm

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bothamsfearnley wrote:I guess no one ever thought a club would actually forfeit a semi..... :lol:


Not much we could do when 5-6 blokes refused to play because they would rather play in a football trial match.


I'm not having a go at anyone mate, Its more a dissapointing outcome than anything else. I'm sure you would have a few blokes from that team who would be really angry about what happened - I can't imagine Knoxy is very impressed. No doubt your club will be more careful next year when trying to figure out who is committed and who isnt..
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Re: Para Districts Cricket Association 2010-11

Postby whufc » Fri Mar 25, 2011 12:53 pm

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bothamsfearnley wrote:I guess no one ever thought a club would actually forfeit a semi..... :lol:


Not much we could do when 5-6 blokes refused to play because they would rather play in a football trial match.


I'm not having a go at anyone mate, Its more a dissapointing outcome than anything else. I'm sure you would have a few blokes from that team who would be really angry about what happened - I can't imagine Knoxy is very impressed. No doubt your club will be more careful next year when trying to figure out who is committed and who isnt..


Yeah definatly there was 3-4 blokes in the B Grade who felt badly let down and rightly were very angry, and as you mentioned it was a very dissapointing end to the year for a bloke such as Knoxy who deserves alot better than that.

And your certainly right, next season if all goes as planned will see alot different Eastern Park B grade side. Changes will be made.
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Re: Para Districts Cricket Association 2010-11

Postby Grahaml » Fri Mar 25, 2011 12:55 pm

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bothamsfearnley wrote:With one of the Rosies guys getting rubbed out for a fairly minor offence, it got me thinking about the equity in the handing down of penalties all across the association. For example, how can it be a reasonably weighted penalty when I know for a fact that one of our guys was fined $20.00 for wearing grey socks, and we were also fined $20.00 for not confirming the result of a game which was an inexperienced user error :oops:, not a deliberate act, and Eastern Park only get a $350.00 fine for forfeiting a semi final and basically turning the whole competition into a joke? I think they need to look at the whole system in the off season and make sure they have their penalties fitting the crimes both in administration and on the field.


There isn't any discretion with respect to fines. Each offence has a specific fine. Those that decided on those fines felt they were fair and reasonable at the time. If you don't share that view then there is a time and place to raise that issue.

BTW, the fine for a finals forfeit is $250........


I understand that and agree it is the right way to have "set" fines for these types of things, but I suppose what I am trying to say is that forfeiting a semi has got to be much worse than 10 times as bad as an offence than simply wearing grey socks! I think It needs to be looked at again, thats all.


I agree with you, and I suspect there might be changes on the horizon. But if the people willing to get onto the exec and make noises at the delegates meetings feel differently and we don't get out there and do something to make our opinions heard then all we'll be able to do is gripe on here.
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Re: Para Districts Cricket Association 2010-11

Postby OKC! » Fri Mar 25, 2011 12:56 pm

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Re: Para Districts Cricket Association 2010-11

Postby Grahaml » Fri Mar 25, 2011 1:01 pm

whufc wrote:
bothamsfearnley wrote:
whufc wrote:
bothamsfearnley wrote:I guess no one ever thought a club would actually forfeit a semi..... :lol:


Not much we could do when 5-6 blokes refused to play because they would rather play in a football trial match.


I'm not having a go at anyone mate, Its more a dissapointing outcome than anything else. I'm sure you would have a few blokes from that team who would be really angry about what happened - I can't imagine Knoxy is very impressed. No doubt your club will be more careful next year when trying to figure out who is committed and who isnt..


Yeah definatly there was 3-4 blokes in the B Grade who felt badly let down and rightly were very angry, and as you mentioned it was a very dissapointing end to the year for a bloke such as Knoxy who deserves alot better than that.

And your certainly right, next season if all goes as planned will see alot different Eastern Park B grade side. Changes will be made.


I'll have a go at someone. The blokes who decided to play a trial match instead of a cricket match. If it's a league club and you've known all season (we had a couple lads in that position) then I can understand. But for an amatuer club, especially if it's the same club you play cricket for (I don't know if that's the case here, but I recall that happening at Salisbury West one day) then it's a disgrace. If the footy club aren't going to allow blokes the trial game off to play cricket finals then they can't complain when the blokes who enjoy cricket more opt out of footy finals for a cricket trial match.

It's a total disgrace you can play all season then let your whole club down by doing something that pathetic and I bet with no warning until the week of the game. I bet even the OTH lads are peeved because they only just missed out on the spot your guys ended up with.
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Re: Para Districts Cricket Association 2010-11

Postby Lightning McQueen » Fri Mar 25, 2011 1:06 pm

Going back a few years ago we were playing Eastern Park in a semi, they pleaded with me to let them bat first as they wanted to play in a footy trial. They won the toss, danced around flapping their arms like wings and got all out for under 30. Game was over within an hour on day 1.
They got to play in their footy trial and so did our opening bowler who busted his shoulder and missed the granny.
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Re: Para Districts Cricket Association 2010-11

Postby whufc » Fri Mar 25, 2011 1:09 pm

yep didnt leave us much options, im also led to believe that if they were told they couldnt play football trial games that they were going to chose to watch the football instead of playing cricket.

alot of unhappy people about it at Eastern Park and more than a few people have said the players who chose not to play should fork up to pay for the fine, doubt this will happen though.

I just cant wait to next season when these same blokes come looking for something to do in summer.
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Re: Para Districts Cricket Association 2010-11

Postby Grahaml » Fri Mar 25, 2011 1:12 pm

whufc wrote:yep didnt leave us much options, im also led to believe that if they were told they couldnt play football trial games that they were going to chose to watch the football instead of playing cricket.

alot of unhappy people about it at Eastern Park and more than a few people have said the players who chose not to play should fork up to pay for the fine, doubt this will happen though.

I just cant wait to next season when these same blokes come looking for something to do in summer.


Fine them their portion of the forfeit fee, then refuse to clear them until they pay it. Or if you decide to let them play for you again, make them pay it before they are available for selection.

If they just refuse to pay at all, then they can just sit out a year of cricket.
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Re: Para Districts Cricket Association 2010-11

Postby whufc » Fri Mar 25, 2011 1:14 pm

Grahaml wrote:
whufc wrote:yep didnt leave us much options, im also led to believe that if they were told they couldnt play football trial games that they were going to chose to watch the football instead of playing cricket.

alot of unhappy people about it at Eastern Park and more than a few people have said the players who chose not to play should fork up to pay for the fine, doubt this will happen though.

I just cant wait to next season when these same blokes come looking for something to do in summer.


Fine them their portion of the forfeit fee, then refuse to clear them until they pay it. Or if you decide to let them play for you again, make them pay it before they are available for selection.

If they just refuse to pay at all, then they can just sit out a year of cricket.


That wont be happening,

Your idea sounds fair enough to me and that is something ill definatly propose to the people in power.
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Re: Para Districts Cricket Association 2010-11

Postby Lightning McQueen » Fri Mar 25, 2011 1:27 pm

Local cricket has always taken a back step to local footy since cocky was an egg.
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Re: Para Districts Cricket Association 2010-11

Postby Grahaml » Fri Mar 25, 2011 1:28 pm

whufc wrote:
Grahaml wrote:
whufc wrote:yep didnt leave us much options, im also led to believe that if they were told they couldnt play football trial games that they were going to chose to watch the football instead of playing cricket.

alot of unhappy people about it at Eastern Park and more than a few people have said the players who chose not to play should fork up to pay for the fine, doubt this will happen though.

I just cant wait to next season when these same blokes come looking for something to do in summer.


Fine them their portion of the forfeit fee, then refuse to clear them until they pay it. Or if you decide to let them play for you again, make them pay it before they are available for selection.

If they just refuse to pay at all, then they can just sit out a year of cricket.


That wont be happening,

Your idea sounds fair enough to me and that is something ill definatly propose to the people in power.


I suspected as much, but I wasn't going to assume anything. Different clubs have different ways of dealing with things like that.
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Re: Para Districts Cricket Association 2010-11

Postby catchit » Fri Mar 25, 2011 1:30 pm

Appeal will be heard tonight at 7.30...watch this space..
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Re: Para Districts Cricket Association 2010-11

Postby howzat » Fri Mar 25, 2011 1:35 pm

catchit wrote:Appeal will be heard tonight at 7.30...watch this space..


waste of time catchit but you gotta try i suppose....
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Re: Para Districts Cricket Association 2010-11

Postby OKC! » Fri Mar 25, 2011 1:36 pm

catchit wrote:Appeal will be heard tonight at 7.30...watch this space..


Nice work.

Good luck again Duane.
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Re: Para Districts Cricket Association 2010-11

Postby OKC! » Fri Mar 25, 2011 1:38 pm

Wonder if he will actually rock up tonight.

Probably not cause he lives in whoop whoop, but they should force him to come down or throw the charges out.

If a player doesn't rock up to a tribunal, they always get dicked.
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Re: Para Districts Cricket Association 2010-11

Postby whufc » Fri Mar 25, 2011 1:41 pm

catchit wrote:Appeal will be heard tonight at 7.30...watch this space..


We appealed Marty Ryans decision and i dont know if the PDCA executives mentioned it to use or not

BUT

you need to bring in new evidence otherwise your appeal is instantly dismissed, meaning duane cant just go in there saying he feels the punishment is to harsh and that they should remove it. you need someone who hasnt been seen by the tribunal backing his side and the lack of seriousness of his offence.

Don wont be expected to be at the tribunal tonight.
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Re: Para Districts Cricket Association 2010-11

Postby sports follower » Fri Mar 25, 2011 1:45 pm

Grahaml wrote:
whufc wrote:yep didnt leave us much options, im also led to believe that if they were told they couldnt play football trial games that they were going to chose to watch the football instead of playing cricket.

alot of unhappy people about it at Eastern Park and more than a few people have said the players who chose not to play should fork up to pay for the fine, doubt this will happen though.

I just cant wait to next season when these same blokes come looking for something to do in summer.


Fine them their portion of the forfeit fee, then refuse to clear them until they pay it. Or if you decide to let them play for you again, make them pay it before they are available for selection.

If they just refuse to pay at all, then they can just sit out a year of cricket.


Can you PM their names WHUFC so they dont do the same to us next season, I know one of them trained with us in the pre season and am glad he didnt come and play for us, he is a clown and that is an understatement!
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Re: Para Districts Cricket Association 2010-11

Postby sports follower » Fri Mar 25, 2011 1:46 pm

catchit wrote:Appeal will be heard tonight at 7.30...watch this space..



Good luck I think you will need it! But I hope he gets off, not a good preparation for a GF.
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Re: Para Districts Cricket Association 2010-11

Postby Browny25 » Fri Mar 25, 2011 1:50 pm

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whufc wrote:Same situation here we are the number 2 seed playing against the 1 seed, we went 1-1 against each other during the minor round and am at the opposite end of the age spectrum.

Here's to the underdog! :partyman: :drinkers: ...



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Re: Para Districts Cricket Association 2010-11

Postby Browny25 » Fri Mar 25, 2011 1:51 pm

whufc wrote:
bothamsfearnley wrote:
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bothamsfearnley wrote:I guess no one ever thought a club would actually forfeit a semi..... :lol:


Not much we could do when 5-6 blokes refused to play because they would rather play in a football trial match.


I'm not having a go at anyone mate, Its more a dissapointing outcome than anything else. I'm sure you would have a few blokes from that team who would be really angry about what happened - I can't imagine Knoxy is very impressed. No doubt your club will be more careful next year when trying to figure out who is committed and who isnt..


Yeah definatly there was 3-4 blokes in the B Grade who felt badly let down and rightly were very angry, and as you mentioned it was a very dissapointing end to the year for a bloke such as Knoxy who deserves alot better than that.

And your certainly right, next season if all goes as planned will see alot different Eastern Park B grade side. Changes will be made.


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