Adelaide and Suburban Cricket Association 2010/11

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Re: Adelaide and Suburban Cricket Association 2010/11

Postby Rik E Boy » Sun May 01, 2011 9:15 pm

Maybe they should have an ASCA Premier League with just eight sides with a mandatory two up two down promotion for following seasons. Perhaps this could strengthen the standard of both of the two top divisions and make Haven's situation a bit less of an issue.

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Re: Adelaide and Suburban Cricket Association 2010/11

Postby Gowser » Mon May 02, 2011 10:31 pm

Jabber wrote:Although, if the keswick law gets up then it will just be another mickey mouse comp no matter what section your in.


How so? Playing more games against high quality opposition?
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Re: Adelaide and Suburban Cricket Association 2010/11

Postby woodublieve12 » Mon May 02, 2011 10:48 pm

Gowser wrote:
Jabber wrote:Although, if the keswick law gets up then it will just be another mickey mouse comp no matter what section your in.


How so? Playing more games against high quality opposition?


How so????? because if it ain't broke don't fix it!! hope it gets voted out...
personally i think everyone should vote NO... but thats just my opinion...
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Re: Adelaide and Suburban Cricket Association 2010/11

Postby CoverKing » Mon May 02, 2011 11:05 pm

Gowser wrote:
Jabber wrote:Although, if the keswick law gets up then it will just be another mickey mouse comp no matter what section your in.


How so? Playing more games against high quality opposition?


Half the sides Will make the finals as well though
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Re: Adelaide and Suburban Cricket Association 2010/11

Postby Moe » Tue May 03, 2011 7:57 am

Gowser wrote:
Jabber wrote:Although, if the keswick law gets up then it will just be another mickey mouse comp no matter what section your in.


How so? Playing more games against high quality opposition?

Morphie Patks have some questions on the format.
1. How will it be played? 7 one dayers, then 7 2 Dayers? Alternate both? If a team wins all one dayers & only 1 2 dayer but scrapes into finals, would they not prefer finals to be one dayers, and vice versa. (Even tho I know the finals will be 2 dayers).
2. How many sections will this be in?
3. If all sections, then how many sections will we have, and will clubs have 2 teams in one section in the lower grades?

We have our new committee now & will be voting on it soon, yet there are alot of ???? hanging over this proposal. I am against it, yet I don't play anymore ( I can hear the tears ), and as most of our committee are players, I will go with them on the decision.
Which ever way we go we will be using up our full 8 votes.
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Re: Adelaide and Suburban Cricket Association 2010/11

Postby Jabber » Tue May 03, 2011 8:36 am

Gowser wrote:
Jabber wrote:Although, if the keswick law gets up then it will just be another mickey mouse comp no matter what section your in.


How so? Playing more games against high quality opposition?


More premierships will be on offer, which makes it easier to win, which makes it mickey mouse.

Finals are played over 2 days, yet you want to play 7 1dayers, which makes it mickey mouse.

You cry foul that there are too many 2 dayers and can't get enough players, yet there will only be a reduction of only three 2 dayers, only three! which means your apparent problems at keswick of not being able to fill sides will i'm sure not be rectified, which makes it mickey mouse.

More 1dayers means in times of inclement weather entire games will be washed out instead of only a days play, which means more no results, which means mickey mouse.

The more I read into it, the more it seems like a system designed only to apease Keswick, a club that has no junior program that I'm aware of. It seems to me as if Keswick are simply trying to take the easy road instead of creating a junior program to help build your senior stocks.
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Re: Adelaide and Suburban Cricket Association 2010/11

Postby Westsider » Tue May 03, 2011 10:07 am

Have 2 distinct competitions.

Premier League (Section 1) and Regular League (the rest) - Sections 1,2,4,6 - all 2 dayers

One Day Cup - Section 3,5,7 - all 1 dayers
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Re: Adelaide and Suburban Cricket Association 2010/11

Postby woodublieve12 » Tue May 03, 2011 10:24 am

Westsider wrote:Have 2 distinct competitions.

Premier League (Section 1) and Regular League (the rest) - Sections 1,2,4,6 - all 2 dayers

One Day Cup - Section 3,5,7 - all 1 dayers


or we could just leave it the way it is.
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Re: Adelaide and Suburban Cricket Association 2010/11

Postby Jabber » Tue May 03, 2011 10:25 am

Westsider wrote:Have 2 distinct competitions.

Premier League (Section 1) and Regular League (the rest) - Sections 1,2,4,6 - all 2 dayers

One Day Cup - Section 3,5,7 - all 1 dayers



Your idea has merit, but I have a better idea... DON'T CHANGE A BLOODY THING!
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Re: Adelaide and Suburban Cricket Association 2010/11

Postby Westsider » Tue May 03, 2011 12:01 pm

I understand, was just trying to give an alternative that might be suitable to all parties. I don't play in the ASCA anymore, was just giving an outside view.

The LOx grade in Adelaide turf work really well.
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Re: Adelaide and Suburban Cricket Association 2010/11

Postby Amateur Footy » Tue May 03, 2011 12:03 pm

I like the fact we select teams once a fortnight over a bbq and beers and not each week. We are working hard to build up our player base rather than change the game to try to suit dwindling numbers.

It was a great move a few years ago to allow the 12th or 13th man to swap in and out of a team and I think that resolves most of the issues of players not being available for both weeks. Yes they may not get to both bat and bowl.

I figure that if you want to play one dayers we should have a one day comp but for a club like ours who want to play Sect 1 cricket over 2 days, a one-day comp will not help us in encouraging all of our best players to play higher grades.

We will put it to our members at our AGM.
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Re: Adelaide and Suburban Cricket Association 2010/11

Postby Amateur Footy » Tue May 03, 2011 12:06 pm

Does anyone know how many teams have been in each section of ASCA over the years. Since the early 90s they have always been 10-12 teams except for perhaps sect 7. Id be interested to know if there was a time when there were only 8 teams in a section.
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Re: Adelaide and Suburban Cricket Association 2010/11

Postby Jabber » Tue May 03, 2011 12:15 pm

Amateur Footy wrote:Does anyone know how many teams have been in each section of ASCA over the years. Since the early 90s they have always been 10-12 teams except for perhaps sect 7. Id be interested to know if there was a time when there were only 8 teams in a section.


I havent played in a section where there has only been 8 teams in my 15 or so years.

I think there have been lower sections (6-7) with anywhere between 8-12 teams.

I just don't see why we need to change the game because of 1 clubs dwindling numbers.

Thats like changing the rules so that you can let the ball bounce and still claim the catch if one club is having trouble catching the ball!

Letter to Keswick, if you can't field your side each week, then don't have as many sides, its a decision that every other club that has dropped a team has had to make, no other club has written a letter to change the rules!
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Re: Adelaide and Suburban Cricket Association 2010/11

Postby woodublieve12 » Tue May 03, 2011 12:24 pm

Jabber wrote:
Amateur Footy wrote:Does anyone know how many teams have been in each section of ASCA over the years. Since the early 90s they have always been 10-12 teams except for perhaps sect 7. Id be interested to know if there was a time when there were only 8 teams in a section.


I havent played in a section where there has only been 8 teams in my 15 or so years.

I think there have been lower sections (6-7) with anywhere between 8-12 teams.

I just don't see why we need to change the game because of 1 clubs dwindling numbers.

Thats like changing the rules so that you can let the ball bounce and still claim the catch if one club is having trouble catching the ball!

Letter to Keswick, if you can't field your side each week, then don't have as many sides, its a decision that every other club that has dropped a team has had to make, no other club has written a letter to change the rules!


that rule would help me quite a bit... can we vote that one in... :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Adelaide and Suburban Cricket Association 2010/11

Postby CoverKing » Tue May 03, 2011 5:44 pm

I agree, if Keswick are stuggling for numbers like they did last year a bit, maybe do some extra work and get a junior program up and running? and the big thing is, they want less 2 dayers, but it only reduces it by 3. whats the difference between 10 and 7 2 dayers in the scheme of things? reallY?
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Re: Adelaide and Suburban Cricket Association 2010/11

Postby Westsider » Tue May 03, 2011 11:18 pm

Also what's Keswicks record in 1-dayers in the last 3 years compared to 2-dayers.
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Re: Adelaide and Suburban Cricket Association 2010/11

Postby Madrooster » Wed May 04, 2011 12:52 pm

So Moe - are you on the new committee at Morphies??
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Re: Adelaide and Suburban Cricket Association 2010/11

Postby Moe » Wed May 04, 2011 12:57 pm

Madrooster wrote:So Moe - are you on the new committee at Morphies??

You should know ya bastard, you talked me into it.
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Re: Adelaide and Suburban Cricket Association 2010/11

Postby CoverKing » Wed May 04, 2011 1:19 pm

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Re: Adelaide and Suburban Cricket Association 2010/11

Postby wycbloods » Wed May 04, 2011 3:35 pm

Gowser what are the reasons the KCC want to change the format of games and sections?
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CoverKing said what?

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