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Postby HOORAY PUNT » Sat May 14, 2011 12:01 am

Fair enough but from a neutral supporter I think West are a very good ,disciplined team .Remind me of this later mate .
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Postby Brodlach » Sat May 14, 2011 12:05 am

I hope you are right though HP :D

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Re: Rnd 7: West v Glenelg @ Richmond - POST GAME REVIEWS

Postby HOORAY PUNT » Sat May 14, 2011 12:07 am

bayman wrote:it was a great game that had intensity & also with plenty of turnovers in the first half & glenelg held the ascendancy & should have been further in front bar for some innacurate kicking including at least 3 out on the full, you could see west was getting on top during the third term & obviously glenelg was steamrolled in the last although i wasn't impressed with the give up attitude the bay players showed after macreadie took that screamer in the goalsquare & goaled, this attitude was emphasised when ty allen had the ball around the half back line & took a long time to have his kick when called to 'play on' & his raising his arms outstretched ''saying well i had nothing to kick too''

both reports were an absolute joke

todd grima's was a fractionally late bump after a free was paid to another player & all it should have been was a 25 metre penalty at worst

the west player reported whose name escapes me (as i left the budget in the car) was even worse, yes it was a free for in the back as he landed on the bay player who was first to the ball but to report him for that was a disgrace

the umpiring while it didn't favour either team was disgraceful, they had no feel for the game, at one stage i witnessed one of the best marks i've seen in a long long time only for kirkby to be given a free, yes it was probably there but you must have a feel for the game, players from both sides continually looked at the umpire to see which way the free would be awarded to.........tony dey is not up to it so why do they persist with him ? :roll: frank manikas made puzzling decisions as well & the much MALinged curtis deboy was very much less conspicuous so i'd say he did ok

cameron hitchcock, i bit my lip after the port game (he got in the best players at the club & kicked 3 goals out of 9 BUT he lost every 50/50 contest that day) he is a very soft player who yes kicks goals but when a ball is on the line he pulls out & hopes the opponent makes a blue, it was very evident in the last term when the ball came out toward him on centrewing & he stopped dead & let the west player who attacked the ball gain possession of it & sent it back into attack

there maybe kids in the team but there is no 'mojo' no run, no taking risks etc etc & unless there is a shakeup at the bay we'll be very lucky to make the 5 & wouldn't do any damage if we did

westies best players i thought were (in no particular order) caire, the caruso bros, morris, willits & macreadie

well done westies, way too good after half time

Good summary but I can't see how you can make this point ?Good summary of Hithcock as well.
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Re: Rnd 7: West v Glenelg @ Richmond - POST GAME REVIEWS

Postby Grahaml » Sat May 14, 2011 12:11 am

HOORAY PUNT wrote:
bayman wrote:it was a great game that had intensity & also with plenty of turnovers in the first half & glenelg held the ascendancy & should have been further in front bar for some innacurate kicking including at least 3 out on the full, you could see west was getting on top during the third term & obviously glenelg was steamrolled in the last although i wasn't impressed with the give up attitude the bay players showed after macreadie took that screamer in the goalsquare & goaled, this attitude was emphasised when ty allen had the ball around the half back line & took a long time to have his kick when called to 'play on' & his raising his arms outstretched ''saying well i had nothing to kick too''

both reports were an absolute joke

todd grima's was a fractionally late bump after a free was paid to another player & all it should have been was a 25 metre penalty at worst

the west player reported whose name escapes me (as i left the budget in the car) was even worse, yes it was a free for in the back as he landed on the bay player who was first to the ball but to report him for that was a disgrace

the umpiring while it didn't favour either team was disgraceful, they had no feel for the game, at one stage i witnessed one of the best marks i've seen in a long long time only for kirkby to be given a free, yes it was probably there but you must have a feel for the game, players from both sides continually looked at the umpire to see which way the free would be awarded to.........tony dey is not up to it so why do they persist with him ? :roll: frank manikas made puzzling decisions as well & the much MALinged curtis deboy was very much less conspicuous so i'd say he did ok

cameron hitchcock, i bit my lip after the port game (he got in the best players at the club & kicked 3 goals out of 9 BUT he lost every 50/50 contest that day) he is a very soft player who yes kicks goals but when a ball is on the line he pulls out & hopes the opponent makes a blue, it was very evident in the last term when the ball came out toward him on centrewing & he stopped dead & let the west player who attacked the ball gain possession of it & sent it back into attack

there maybe kids in the team but there is no 'mojo' no run, no taking risks etc etc & unless there is a shakeup at the bay we'll be very lucky to make the 5 & wouldn't do any damage if we did

westies best players i thought were (in no particular order) caire, the caruso bros, morris, willits & macreadie

well done westies, way too good after half time

Good summary but I can't see how you can make this point ?Good summary of Hithcock as well.


He wants the rules ignored when it suits, basically. For some reason people seem to think the rules (which dictate the game and how it's played) should be applied only at certain time and not at others (end of games, finals, when something spectacular happens...). If it's against the rules it's against the rules. Simple as that. If you don't like the rules, find a game whose rules you do like.
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Re: Rnd 7: West v Glenelg @ Richmond - POST GAME REVIEWS

Postby bayman » Sat May 14, 2011 12:12 am

hp, have to have a feel for the game ;) the bloke took a screamer & the umpire ruined it (happy as we got a goal from it but for footy's sake it should have been a mark) & graham it was hardly a push it was overplayed a lot by ruory & that's just me ;)
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Re: Rnd 7: West v Glenelg @ Richmond - POST GAME REVIEWS

Postby Dutchy » Sat May 14, 2011 12:37 am

Westies pretty impressive, Bays are way off it and on the decline sadly, might scrape into the finals at best if the players want it, which they dont at the moment...not working hard enough
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Re: Rnd 7: West v Glenelg @ Richmond - POST GAME REVIEWS

Postby Big Phil » Sat May 14, 2011 12:43 am

HOORAY PUNT wrote:
bloods08 wrote:
Jim05 wrote:
bloods08 wrote:I would like to thank Todd Grima for the victory tonight. One of the silliest things I have seen on the footy field and boy didn't it change the game.

Will he get weeks?

I would think he would be looking at about 2-3. Maybe more because I don't think he has a great record either.


A great record of what ? Kicking goals ?Finals wins ? Please explain ?


As yet, I'd say he'd be talking about the fact Grima doesn't have the greates of records at the tribunal - talking about him getting weeks as in a suspension, as yet.
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Re: Rnd 7: West v Glenelg @ Richmond - POST GAME REVIEWS

Postby blackandred » Sat May 14, 2011 1:00 am

At 3Q time in this match Westies held a slender 7pt lead having just hit the front for the first time. Jason Davenport was on crutches, Matthew Rankine had injured his hamstring, Logan Hill had just limped off and Daniel Caire was having treatment for a cut mouth. It is at such a critical time as this that true character shows out and the last Q saw Westies play some of the best and toughest team footy you could ever wish to see. Despite Aaron Fielke being on one leg for most of the last Q, for a fierce tackle that saw him reported, we booted 6 magnificent goals to only 1 from a dispirited and indirect Glenelg to run out convincing winners.
With 3 of their 5 wins against teams from last year’s finals perhaps the doubters will now be forced to concede that the Bloods are the real deal. From half way through the 2Q we kicked 14 gls to the Bays 5 to record our first win at Richmond against them since 2004.
The opening Q was very ordinary and the first goal of the game was not kicked until the 23min mark. There were heaps of mistakes and the Bays dominated the game with the WA backline working overtime to keep them out. 1Q WA 0.3, Gl 2.6.
Westies got their first goal at the ten minute mark of the 2Q and despite outscoring Gl by 4 to 3 were still behind at half time. The goals were shared between Macreadie, F Caruso, Beech and a glorious goal from the talented and very fast M Rankine. Half time WA 4.5, Gl 5.9.
The premiership Q saw the Bloods midfield turn the screws, intimidating and unsettling the Bays with their fierce tackling and teamwork. Shane Birss’ goal from the SW pocket boundary the highlight. 3Q WA 8.5, Gl 6.10.
The last Q saw the dividend paid for the third Q investment. With 2 injured on the bench the team played inspired footy driving the ball forward relentlessly to create scoring opportunities. Moran came into the game to provide Willets much needed support. Webb took a screamer and goaled. The Ezard brothers combined for a goal. Lobbe got one off the ground and everyone thought he had another except the umpire who awarded a pt. Even Kurt Thompson ran down the ground to boot a major and Jonno Beech kicked one on the siren.
There were only 2 multiple goalkickers, Lobbe and Beech, with the others being shared between ten players such was the evenness of the effort. The lack of a key forward is still a worry but hopefully Brad Fisher will return to fill that role. Webb and Moran had little impact while playing forward.
Pretty much everyone contributed to the win but you have to single a few out if only to provoke some reaction. Steve Morris with 28 possessions was best for the second week in a row. He plays a ‘straight ahead’ high risk style but he starts so many of our attacks with his run from the full back line. Daniel Caire was close behind. The midfield took some time to get it together but when they did they dominated. Macreadie played his best game since Prospect and Ezard was everywhere – his offensive and defensive efforts make him the complete footballer. Shane Birss played, arguably his best game for the club opening up the game with his handball. Ryan Ferguson was again directing traffic at CHB. N Caruso and Fielke worked hard, Willets was great early when he single-handed took on the Bays rucks but was helped out as the game wore on by Webb, Moran and Lobbe. F Caruso showed that he needed the run last week to work his way back to form. Special mention also to Green, Silvester and Kurt Thompson who pressured the Gl forwards into error. Kurt Thompson may well have established himself in the side such was his effort.
Looking back on the game Westies started slowly but gradually built momentum while their pressure was wearing down the Bays and forcing them into error and indirect play. The 6gl to 1 last Q showed how dominant were the Bloods. Glenelg were simply unable to maintain the pressure they applied early in the game and let themselves down in front of goal.
The 2s were thrashed 17.16 to 6.5.
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Re: Rnd 7: West v Glenelg @ Richmond - POST GAME REVIEWS

Postby Duckman » Sat May 14, 2011 1:57 am

I wont be convinced until they cam beat a top team other than a night game @ richmond where they give away 100's if not 1000's of tickets and really pump up the occasion. The opposition are ambushed and are not mentally up to the 4 qtrs of hyped up pressure they weren't expecting (I'll give West credit for that at least)

Just look what happened when out of their comfort zone @ alberton.
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Re: Rnd 7: West v Glenelg @ Richmond - POST GAME REVIEWS

Postby Grahaml » Sat May 14, 2011 2:43 am

bayman wrote:hp, have to have a feel for the game ;) the bloke took a screamer & the umpire ruined it (happy as we got a goal from it but for footy's sake it should have been a mark) & graham it was hardly a push it was overplayed a lot by ruory & that's just me ;)


So now it wasn't a free? A minute ago you were saying it was probably there. what else happens, whatever time of the game or season it is, the frees that are there should be given, the rest let go.
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Re: Rnd 7: West v Glenelg @ Richmond - POST GAME REVIEWS

Postby cje » Sat May 14, 2011 5:53 am

westies last 1/4 brilliant, time for mickan to pack his bags and leave,
clearly the players are overated when it gets tough they go missing
that normally happens in september not may
as for hitchcock he should be dropped from our league side
the guy has no ability is soft pulls out of contests rarely beats his opponent
no wonder he is power listed ,grima and kirkby frontrunners,rudolph kane need to lift
they appear to be past their best.
highlight of the night was catching up with westies friends
umpiring poor which favoured us
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Re: Rnd 7: West v Glenelg @ Richmond - POST GAME REVIEWS

Postby Brodlach » Sat May 14, 2011 9:10 am

Duckman wrote:I wont be convinced until they cam beat a top team other than a night game @ richmond where they give away 100's if not 1000's of tickets and really pump up the occasion. The opposition are ambushed and are not mentally up to the 4 qtrs of hyped up pressure they weren't expecting (I'll give West credit for that at least)

Just look what happened when out of their comfort zone @ alberton.




Think you will find that tickets were not given away last night and we still got a good crowd. Also we have beaten 3 out of 5 from last years finals and are yet to play the other two. Wasnt getting out of their comfort zone at Alberton, it was the players getting ahead of themselves.
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Postby The Sleeping Giant » Sat May 14, 2011 9:15 am

Which opponent did Ferguson have?
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Re: Rnd 7: West v Glenelg @ Richmond - POST GAME REVIEWS

Postby Brodlach » Sat May 14, 2011 9:21 am

The Sleeping Giant wrote:Which opponent did Ferguson have?



He had a few different ones throughout the game,they rotated around for the first 3 quarters. He stood Cornes in the last quarter.
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Re: Rnd 7: West v Glenelg @ Richmond - POST GAME REVIEWS

Postby nickname » Sat May 14, 2011 9:40 am

Duckman wrote:I wont be convinced until they cam beat a top team other than a night game @ richmond where they give away 100's if not 1000's of tickets and really pump up the occasion. The opposition are ambushed and are not mentally up to the 4 qtrs of hyped up pressure they weren't expecting (I'll give West credit for that at least)

Just look what happened when out of their comfort zone @ alberton.


The opposition are ambushed? They're surprised to find themselves playing us at Richmond? And being put under pressure?
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Re: Rnd 7: West v Glenelg @ Richmond - POST GAME REVIEWS

Postby Brodlach » Sat May 14, 2011 9:42 am

nickname wrote:
Duckman wrote:I wont be convinced until they cam beat a top team other than a night game @ richmond where they give away 100's if not 1000's of tickets and really pump up the occasion. The opposition are ambushed and are not mentally up to the 4 qtrs of hyped up pressure they weren't expecting (I'll give West credit for that at least)

Just look what happened when out of their comfort zone @ alberton.


The opposition are ambushed? They're surprised to find themselves playing us at Richmond? And being put under pressure?



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Re: Rnd 7: West v Glenelg @ Richmond - POST GAME REVIEWS

Postby beenreal » Sat May 14, 2011 9:58 am

Was there to see a good game of football. Unfortunately that game was was on telly because the live match was average.

Can't believe how quickly Glenelg fell apart and they are really ordinary through the midfield.

And finally, the clash of the jumpers under lights was terrible. I'm certain I saw more than 1 example of players kicking to the opposition thinking they were a team-mate.
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Re: Rnd 7: West v Glenelg @ Richmond - POST GAME REVIEWS

Postby Peter Griffen » Sat May 14, 2011 10:12 am

beenreal wrote:Was there to see a good game of football. Unfortunately that game was was on telly because the live match was average.

Can't believe how quickly Glenelg fell apart and they are really ordinary through the midfield.

And finally, the clash of the jumpers under lights was terrible. I'm certain I saw more than 1 example of players kicking to the opposition thinking they were a team-mate.


Agreed. Glenelg really need a clash guernsey. Westies have this awful red thing. Surely the Bays can come up with a canary yellow number.

And Duckman. Ambushed at an away game. Well I'll be. Toughen up princess. Try supporting West the last 6 years. I could count on 1 hand the amount of times we have outnumbered the opposition supporters. Probably only South games.
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Postby Big Phil » Sat May 14, 2011 10:37 am

beenreal wrote:And finally, the clash of the jumpers under lights was terrible. I'm certain I saw more than 1 example of players kicking to the opposition thinking they were a team-mate.


Yeah, I know the ABC Digital callers where commenting on that as well, particularly when you are positioned at the back of the grandstand.

I don't recall the player, but I certainly one moment when I had the binoculars on the play, a West player was streaming out of defence in front of the mound bar. Out of the corner of his eye, he would have seen a team-mate running toward him to sheppard the Glenelg player chasing him down from behind.

For a split second, that West playe with the ball slightly hesitated and looked about ready to go into evasive action thinking the predominantly black jumper coming at him was a Tigers player.

West maybe should wear that all read jumper they used to have when there is a clash with the Bays in future?
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Re: Rnd 7: West v Glenelg @ Richmond - POST GAME REVIEWS

Postby Brodlach » Sat May 14, 2011 10:40 am

Big Phil wrote:
beenreal wrote:And finally, the clash of the jumpers under lights was terrible. I'm certain I saw more than 1 example of players kicking to the opposition thinking they were a team-mate.


Yeah, I know the ABC Digital callers where commenting on that as well, particularly when you are positioned at the back of the grandstand.

I don't recall the player, but I certainly one moment when I had the binoculars on the play, a West player was streaming out of defence in front of the mound bar. Out of the corner of his eye, he would have seen a team-mate running toward him to sheppard the Glenelg player chasing him down from behind.

For a split second, that West playe with the ball slightly hesitated and looked about ready to go into evasive action thinking the predominantly black jumper coming at him was a Tigers player.

West maybe should wear that all read jumper they used to have when there is a clash with the Bays in future?



Shouldnt Glenelg wear a clash jumper when playing away against West?
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