Kronic-synthetic cannabis

[Barto]

Having said all that, I support our governments efforts to provide a market for organised crime.

[Psyber]

That article is so far from the truth it is just ridiculous.

"Health experts fear users of the drug, with the street name Kronic, face the same adverse effects of cannabis including heart palpitations, severe hallucinations, delusions and psychosis."
I'm sorry but I have smoked cannabis for too many years to mention and not once have I ever had those effects...

The induction of psychotic symptoms seems to be mainly limited to those who already have a propensity to either Schizophrenia or Bipolar Disorder.
My clinical experience is that it certainly stirs those groups up.
The only convincing study suggesting induction of Psychosis in those not known to be predisposed came from the UQ back in about 2004.
The findings there suggested that regular daily use in subjects under 17 years old increased the risk of future psychosis about 25x.
It seems there is more effect on the immature brain.

Of course the impaired concentration and reduced drive that can become chronic has been documented as real for a long time - back pre on line journals.

[7-Dog]

After the death of "The Jackass", I found an article that supports my view that Alcohol is worse than Cannabis. Honestly though, I didn't realise how much worse alcohol is compared to cannabis (according to the article which supports that view)

http://thehive.modbee.com/?q=node/5069

IMO if cannabis is a prohibited item, then alcohol should fall into the same category. The only difference is where the $$ goes.
Because of the $$, cannabis/drugs are bad.

[GWW]

I think the "prohibition" period in the US 80 years ago was the experiment that shows that the banning of alcohol doesn't work.

[The Sleeping Giant]

No it doesn't. The hypocrisy is what annoys me, and the mis information about Cannabis.

[Q.]

I think the "prohibition" period in the US 80 years ago was the experiment that shows that the banning of alcohol doesn't work.

I'll go one step further and suggest that the 'War On Drugs' shows that a war on drugs doesn't work.

[OnSong]

I couldn't care what people want to ingest into their bodies, whether it be natural or synthetic.
What I do have a problem with is them driving or being in the workplace under the influence of any mind-numbing substance.

I don't believe for one second marijuana is not directly or indirectly linked to any deaths as previously posted.
People die in many mysterious ways, including being distracted whilst driving by a nice looking pig because of their deviant sexual attraction to the creature.
To think marijuana is completely innocent and a non-factor in every death as previously quoted, is quite simply ridiculous and potentially impossible.

Finally, if marijuana was legalised, and was to be smoked as commonly as a cigarette for example, the chance of others nearby becoming affected by that smoke is quite high (pun not intended).
Young children walking past, someone waiting at a bus stop, what ever, could all end up affected.

I'm also tired of the comparison to alcohol. Yeah, yeah, we get it. Alcohol is bad too.

EDIT: By the way, alcohol is also a naturally occurring by-product of fermentation. If you're using the "natural" argument, why aren't you smashing mushrooms every day and campaigning for their legalisation?

[The Sleeping Giant]

You ever tried mushies? I want to meet the person who can take them everyday.

Are you disputing the reason for death numbers posted earlier?

Your thinking that 2nd hand smoke from pot is going to get people walking past a bus stop high is ridiculous. Someone would have to walk into a thick cloud of smoke, and breathe in as deep as they possibly could, and it still wouldn't have an effect. The exhaust from the passing trucks and cars would be more dangerous. I'd rather be at a bus stop with a stoned person, than a drunk person.

Like I posted previously, a lot of mis information on real/synthetic cannabis.

Edit: By the way, if alcohol is created by fermentation, then it isn't a naturally occurring product is it? Unless you know the location of some natural rum ponds/streams?

[OnSong]

You ever tried mushies? I want to meet the person who can take them everyday.

Are you disputing the reason for death numbers posted earlier?

Your thinking that 2nd hand smoke from pot is going to get people walking past a bus stop high is ridiculous. Someone would have to walk into a thick cloud of smoke, and breathe in as deep as they possibly could, and it still wouldn't have an effect. The exhaust from the passing trucks and cars would be more dangerous. I'd rather be at a bus stop with a stoned person, than a drunk person.

Like I posted previously, a lot of mis information on real/synthetic cannabis.

Edit: By the way, if alcohol is created by fermentation, then it isn't a naturally occurring product is it? Unless you know the location of some natural rum ponds/streams?

You breathe enough of it in, you will be affected by it. Like when smoking in pubs was legal, you used to get home and your clothes were doused in the stuff.

No doubt some human interaction is necessary to make alcohol, find me someone who waits for their marijuana plant to naturally die and dry out without any form of human intervention.

So what mis-information have I posted?

I think there is always this slanted argument coming from regular pot-users about how harmless it is. I know, alcohol can have adverse affects too but I'm not proclaiming alcohol is harmless.

If pot smoking was as common as alcohol consumption, the glowing endorsement for marijuana would fade fairly quickly.

I have no problem with what you want to ingest into your own body, I'd sooner work with someone smoked four cigarettes a day than four joints. That is all.

[Q.]

Everything in moderation kiddies

Except cigarettes, one puff and you're dead!

[Barto]

I think the "prohibition" period in the US 80 years ago was the experiment that shows that the banning of alcohol doesn't work.

I'll go one step further and suggest that the 'War On Drugs' shows that a war on drugs doesn't work.

The drugs have won that one.

[Q.]

I think the "prohibition" period in the US 80 years ago was the experiment that shows that the banning of alcohol doesn't work.

I'll go one step further and suggest that the 'War On Drugs' shows that a war on drugs doesn't work.

The drugs have won that one.

The winners are drug cartels and the privately-run prison industry.

[The Sleeping Giant]

I've sat in a car windows up while people smoked. No effects on me at all. You can't get stoned from 2nd hand smoke.

Pot is as natural as it comes. Unfortunately, the potency of hyrdo grown pot has put alot of people of smoking it.

I dont know anyone who smokes at work. Would be as irresponsible as drinking at work.

Maybe have a read about the history, myths and facts about Cannabis Onsong.

[OnSong]

I would rather slide down a razor blade, using my balls as brakes and land in a bucket of vinegar to be quite frank.

[GWW]

I would rather slide down a razor blade, using my balls as brakes and land in a bucket of vinegar to be quite frank.

I may need to put that one on my bucket list

[Q.]

I would rather slide down a razor blade, using my balls as brakes and land in a bucket of vinegar to be quite frank.

Someone actually did that once after they got high from second-hand pot smoke while sitting at a bus stop.

[The Sleeping Giant]

I would rather slide down a razor blade, using my balls as brakes and land in a bucket of vinegar to be quite frank.

Thats the spirit.

You know I was stoned when I devised my plan to beat you in Supercoach.

[Sojourner]

http://www.time.com/time/health/article ... 59,00.html

[The Sleeping Giant]

Lot of may and could in that article Sojourner. No proof for and against. Interesting that rates of schizophrenia have flattened or even decreased in the USA in recent times. I do agree that if someone is predispositoned for the disease, it can bring it on quicker. No proof it can cause the disease to those who arent destined for it. The newer strains of dope, skunk etc, aren't for everyone. Too high in thc. The good old outdoor mild pot is alright. So is the new legal gear.

[OnSong]

I would rather slide down a razor blade, using my balls as brakes and land in a bucket of vinegar to be quite frank.

Someone actually did that once after they got high from second-hand pot smoke while sitting at a bus stop.

Exactly. My worse fears realised.