by redandblack » Wed Jul 13, 2011 7:33 pm
by mick » Thu Jul 14, 2011 7:58 am
by redandblack » Thu Jul 14, 2011 8:45 am
by redandblack » Thu Jul 14, 2011 11:01 am
by Sojourner » Thu Jul 14, 2011 11:17 am
by redandblack » Thu Jul 14, 2011 11:51 am
by Psyber » Thu Jul 14, 2011 12:55 pm
by redandblack » Thu Jul 14, 2011 1:00 pm
by Psyber » Thu Jul 14, 2011 1:23 pm
No, I accept that.redandblack wrote:OK, Psyber, let's discuss it from that point of view.
Let's accept she lied before the election and that is inexcusable even if circumstances have changed. Is that fair?
My take, therefore, is that there is an election when the constitution says it's due and she has to answer to the people then.
Do you have an alternative view?
by redandblack » Thu Jul 14, 2011 1:28 pm
by wycbloods » Thu Jul 14, 2011 1:29 pm
Sojourner wrote:Essentially this is the reason why there is no Mandate R&B, its a little difficult to claim a mandate for something that you have openly lied to the public about prior to an election! In Rudds case, did he approach an elections stating that he would not introduce a price on carbon?
Gillard rules out imposing carbon tax August 17, 2010
Julia Gillard has said there will be no tax on carbon while she leads the federal government.
The Deputy Prime Minister, Wayne Swan, said last week that if Labor won the election there would be no carbon tax during its three-year term.
Ms Gillard seemed to go a step further yesterday. ''There will be no carbon tax under the government I lead,''
she told Network Ten. ''What we will do is we will tackle the challenge of climate change.The Prime Minister boasted that Labor had invested ''record amounts'' in solar and renewable technologies.
''Now I want to build the transmission lines that will bring that clean, green energy into the national electricity grid,'' she said.
AAP
by once_were_warriors » Thu Jul 14, 2011 1:29 pm
by Squawk » Thu Jul 14, 2011 1:30 pm
by redandblack » Thu Jul 14, 2011 1:48 pm
by BIG SEXY » Fri Jul 15, 2011 3:26 pm
redandblack wrote:That's a fair point, S.
I'm not saying she should be 'forgiven' though. She has to wear that when the election is due.
Perhaps I could ask you to look at my comments as deploring the over the top (IMO) reaction to the announcement of the policy. Calls to assassinate her and the hysterical shock jock outrage IMO are a dangerous development in Australian politics.
Calls for an election over it are just silly and ignore the Constitution. The voters will throw her out at the right time if they think fit.
I'm not the only one saying this. Even Liberal MP's are worried about a similar incident to the US Congresswoman happening here. I don't think that's likely, but there's a nasty tone to all this.
Finally, on The Drum today, another view:
Warning, it's funny and well-written, but it's long, so some won't want to bother.
http://www.abc.net.au/unleashed/2794652.html
by wycbloods » Fri Jul 15, 2011 3:51 pm
BIG SEXY wrote:redandblack wrote:That's a fair point, S.
I'm not saying she should be 'forgiven' though. She has to wear that when the election is due.
Perhaps I could ask you to look at my comments as deploring the over the top (IMO) reaction to the announcement of the policy. Calls to assassinate her and the hysterical shock jock outrage IMO are a dangerous development in Australian politics.
Calls for an election over it are just silly and ignore the Constitution. The voters will throw her out at the right time if they think fit.
I'm not the only one saying this. Even Liberal MP's are worried about a similar incident to the US Congresswoman happening here. I don't think that's likely, but there's a nasty tone to all this.
Finally, on The Drum today, another view:
Warning, it's funny and well-written, but it's long, so some won't want to bother.
http://www.abc.net.au/unleashed/2794652.html
really?!?! assasinate her? thats a bit over the top. while i dont support her and her carbon tax i wouldnt kill her for it....i would cause shes a filthy ranga though
by Dutchy » Fri Jul 15, 2011 11:07 pm
wycbloods wrote:Sojourner wrote:Essentially this is the reason why there is no Mandate R&B, its a little difficult to claim a mandate for something that you have openly lied to the public about prior to an election! In Rudds case, did he approach an elections stating that he would not introduce a price on carbon?
Gillard rules out imposing carbon tax August 17, 2010
Julia Gillard has said there will be no tax on carbon while she leads the federal government.
The Deputy Prime Minister, Wayne Swan, said last week that if Labor won the election there would be no carbon tax during its three-year term.
Ms Gillard seemed to go a step further yesterday. ''There will be no carbon tax under the government I lead,''
she told Network Ten. ''What we will do is we will tackle the challenge of climate change.The Prime Minister boasted that Labor had invested ''record amounts'' in solar and renewable technologies.
''Now I want to build the transmission lines that will bring that clean, green energy into the national electricity grid,'' she said.
AAP
I think that is the issue right there.
Labor didn't win the election in their own right.
by wycbloods » Fri Jul 15, 2011 11:53 pm
by fish » Sat Jul 16, 2011 12:54 am
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