Kerry Lucas

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Postby dash61 » Tue Apr 03, 2007 12:30 pm

Sorry

No person has the right to sit in judgement on how any one copes with their grief
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Postby Stumps » Tue Apr 03, 2007 12:56 pm

lizbeff eaglez wrote:
Constance_Perm wrote:I don't think judging others is ever a good thing, naturally it happens at times though ... Despite what we might think in the comfort of our own world without experiencing what others are going through (and even then as individuals we all respond differently) I don't think any of us have a right to condemn others for how they (rightly or wrongly) live their lives.
I agree with u CP but this circumstances of the tragedy led me to be disgusted at the way she is goin about recovering. Yes, there will come a point when u will have to move on with your life. But i find it in very poor taste and form that her way of moving on is modelling sexy lingerie and other things. My main point in my opening rant on this was that it was "too soon" If she came out in a year and did what she did, i wouldnt give it a 2nd thought, but 3 months later???

Im not condeming Mrs Lucas at all, i just feel it is way to early to be trying to get her face and body back into the social pages. Have some respect for the poor lil kid. Thats how i feel, i dont expect people to agree with me but thats how i feel.


According to my dictionary lizbeff Condemning (note the hidden "n") is defined as "to state that something or somebody is in some way wrong or unacceptable"
when you posted the words "But i thinks its disgraceful!" that would mean you are Condemning her. It doesnt make you a better parent by saying you would grieve more, or in a different way to Ms Lucas- it just means you are different to her. Let her be, and as the say "get your own backyard in order before you worry about someone elses"[/b]
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Postby BenchedEagle » Tue Apr 03, 2007 1:09 pm

Cant beleive u went and got the dictionary out! hahaha
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Postby Dogwatcher » Tue Apr 03, 2007 1:16 pm

lizbeff eaglez wrote: beleive


He'll have it out again too mate!

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Postby BenchedEagle » Tue Apr 03, 2007 1:22 pm

Dogwatcher wrote:
lizbeff eaglez wrote: beleive


He'll have it out again too mate!

I before E except after C ;)
Hahaha, ill cop that 1. :oops:
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Postby smac » Tue Apr 03, 2007 1:37 pm

Such a judgemental society we live in. None of our business how she grieves - I reckon she would be doing it pretty tough, feeling responsible for the death of a child would be a killer.

I think we need proof of this grieving process - anyone got any pics of the lingerie modelling that "allegedly" occurred?
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Postby Lunchcutter » Tue Apr 03, 2007 1:42 pm

smac wrote:Such a judgemental society we live in.


ah alas such a judgemental discussion board we have here at safooty (see smoking thread and most days, judgement calls are made on all threads)
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Postby Lunchcutter » Tue Apr 03, 2007 1:47 pm

Constance_Perm wrote:I don't think judging others is ever a good thing, naturally it happens at times though ... Despite what we might think in the comfort of our own world without experiencing what others are going through (and even then as individuals we all respond differently) I don't think any of us have a right to condemn others for how they (rightly or wrongly) live their lives.



lots of people on THIS SITE need to really read and understand the above post.. to judge others is to show your arrogance and ignorance - the word "should" should be removed if you do not want to sound judgemental... ie you "should" do this.... jmho
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Postby tazz » Tue Apr 03, 2007 1:47 pm

She's a model. Modelling is her job. She still needs to pay the bills so whats wrong with her going back to work.
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Postby Booney » Tue Apr 03, 2007 1:49 pm

I am reluctant to lock,and certainly wont delete this thread.Just,as I am sure most of you have been,be cautious,respectful and most of all try to be a little understanding of the current goings on.I know the moderators are just as divided about this thread as the thread is in its self.

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Postby MagicKiwi » Tue Apr 03, 2007 1:52 pm

The loss of a child brings on a grief that is so raw, you can hardly breathe. You either drown in it and live your life by it - or you take a healthier option and wear it. How people wear their grief is their own business, but I commend them for doing it for the sake of the people who love and care for them.

She will never get over it, but she will live with it.
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Postby BenchedEagle » Tue Apr 03, 2007 1:52 pm

smac wrote:Such a judgemental society we live in. None of our business how she grieves - I reckon she would be doing it pretty tough, feeling responsible for the death of a child would be a killer.

I think we need proof of this grieving process - anyone got any pics of the lingerie modelling that "allegedly" occurred?
In the Geiniveve Megan section in yestersays paper. Next to Sam Newman himself posing in underwear, a real classy pic.

To all the people goin on about Judgement, Mine is opinion there is a difference. Tell me u guys havent passed judgement a footballer on safooty???? One of u in particular do it a lot

Its my opinion get over it.
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Postby JK » Tue Apr 03, 2007 1:53 pm

Booney wrote:Play on,but more than ever,PLAY FAIR!


Well that should get a contribution outta REB :wink:
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Postby MW » Tue Apr 03, 2007 1:54 pm

lizbeff eaglez wrote:
smac wrote:Such a judgemental society we live in. None of our business how she grieves - I reckon she would be doing it pretty tough, feeling responsible for the death of a child would be a killer.

I think we need proof of this grieving process - anyone got any pics of the lingerie modelling that "allegedly" occurred?
In the Geiniveve Megan section in yestersays paper. Next to Sam Newman himself posing in underwear, a real classy pic.

To all the people goin on about Judgement, Mine is opinion there is a difference. Tell me u guys havent passed judgement a footballer on safooty???? One of u in particular do it a lot

Its my opinion get over it.


Duncs If I read the article correctly, I think you'll find that it was not planned that Sam Newman would get up there in his jocks, he did that on his own accord. (I think....)
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Postby BenchedEagle » Tue Apr 03, 2007 1:59 pm

Anything involving Sam Newman is always gonna lack class. :lol:
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Postby Stumps » Tue Apr 03, 2007 4:41 pm

lizbeff eaglez wrote:Cant beleive u went and got the dictionary out! hahaha


there's one on the computer lizbeff- maybe you can look up the word tool :?:
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Postby Psyber » Tue Apr 03, 2007 7:55 pm

johntheclaret wrote:
Psyber wrote:To the really self-centred grief is a display put on for others and easily parted with a little later when another opportunity to be in the focus arises.
I comment from general principle only, as I had never heard of this specific case before. It might be called the "Princess Di Syndrome".


Fully understand and agree about self-centred grief Psyber, but not sure what you mean by the "Princess Di Syndrome"

Diana was highly skilled at playing to the audience - the intimate little looks up at the camera while her head was bowed, the sideways glance, all part of the helpless woman in need of rescue role. Each time she expressed hurt or distress to an interviewer she watched for the effect she was having. It is a cluster of behaviours typical of a particular personality type highly skilled at attracting people, evoking sympathy, and getting them to do things for them.
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Postby BenchedEagle » Tue Apr 03, 2007 8:45 pm

Stumps wrote:
lizbeff eaglez wrote:Cant beleive u went and got the dictionary out! hahaha


there's one on the computer lizbeff- maybe you can look up the word tool :?:
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Postby dinglinga » Tue Apr 03, 2007 10:12 pm

how kerry deals with the lost of her son is her business.... imgaine if u lost a child in similar circumstances....

kerry is a wonderful person having trained with her over the years in athletics she can hold her own

she is hurting

yes im a parent if my daugher was lost i would return to work eventually ....i also donate to the hudson mahar foundation and also know of brett aiktens situation
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Postby whatcha got there? » Wed Apr 04, 2007 12:11 pm

lizbeff eaglez wrote:
Constance_Perm wrote:I don't think judging others is ever a good thing, naturally it happens at times though ... Despite what we might think in the comfort of our own world without experiencing what others are going through (and even then as individuals we all respond differently) I don't think any of us have a right to condemn others for how they (rightly or wrongly) live their lives.
I agree with u CP but this circumstances of the tragedy led me to be disgusted at the way she is goin about recovering. Yes, there will come a point when u will have to move on with your life. But i find it in very poor taste and form that her way of moving on is modelling sexy lingerie and other things. My main point in my opening rant on this was that it was "too soon" If she came out in a year and did what she did, i wouldnt give it a 2nd thought, but 3 months later???

Im not condeming Mrs Lucas at all, i just feel it is way to early to be trying to get her face and body back into the social pages. Have some respect for the poor lil kid. Thats how i feel, i dont expect people to agree with me but thats how i feel.




her going back to modelling is no different than me going back to my office.
its HER JOB. thats how she makes her money.
i dont think we should be branding her self-centered and everything else for the fact thats she is doing what all grieving parents have to do at some point, get back to their everyday lives.


ok so her everyday life differs greatly from yours and mine, but as the saying goes six of one, half a dozen of another.

i admire the fact thats she's trying to move on and cope with her grief. what happened was tragic and (apparently) careless on her part, but she has to live with that everyday of her life, which i think is punishment enough.
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