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Re: Port Pirie Cricket Association 2011/12

Postby Squids » Sun Nov 13, 2011 8:26 pm

I think fitness levels probably had something to do with it :lol:

Risdons coach is a specialised bowling coach has no input on the batting side of things.




Props smashed SP, they made 250 odd and SP less than 100.
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Re: Port Pirie Cricket Association 2011/12

Postby bigstack » Sun Nov 13, 2011 9:29 pm

Squids wrote:I think fitness levels probably had something to do with it :lol:

Risdons coach is a specialised bowling coach has no input on the batting side of things.




Props smashed SP, they made 250 odd and SP less than 100.


Both sides hade a few out i think. I don't think Brown and Pavvy played for southport and prop had about four out.
Even with that 250odd on the Memorial is a big score. Looks like southport may have problems especially if they have to bring players from over the ranges to play.
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Re: Port Pirie Cricket Association 2011/12

Postby whichgrade » Sun Nov 13, 2011 9:35 pm

anyone heard the sollies b grade score? who got runs and wickets?
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Re: Port Pirie Cricket Association 2011/12

Postby Go the greens » Mon Nov 14, 2011 7:49 am

A second forfeit for the weekend on Sunday under even poorer circumstances than the first, after they had batted. Unbelieveable.
Ironically though the only two affected clubs that voted for no double ups now looking particularly dim being the teams forced to forfeit on the weekend because of it. Ouch. Excellent foresight gentlemen.
Cricket again the loser.
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Re: Port Pirie Cricket Association 2011/12

Postby Squids » Mon Nov 14, 2011 8:40 am

[quote="Go the greens"]A second forfeit for the weekend on Sunday under even poorer circumstances than the first, after they had batted. Unbelieveable.
Ironically though the only two affected clubs that voted for no double ups now looking particularly dim being the teams forced to forfeit on the weekend because of it. Ouch. Excellent foresight gentlemen.
Cricket again the loser.[/quote]

What, who, why?
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Re: Port Pirie Cricket Association 2011/12

Postby whichgrade » Tue Nov 15, 2011 6:32 am

Squids wrote:
Go the greens wrote:A second forfeit for the weekend on Sunday under even poorer circumstances than the first, after they had batted. Unbelieveable.
Ironically though the only two affected clubs that voted for no double ups now looking particularly dim being the teams forced to forfeit on the weekend because of it. Ouch. Excellent foresight gentlemen.
Cricket again the loser.


What, who, why?


well i heard that props u17 batted first then at 12 oclock 4 of their juniors had to leave to play a grade, anyone that can shed anymore light on the matter plz
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Re: Port Pirie Cricket Association 2011/12

Postby Squids » Tue Nov 15, 2011 1:15 pm

I shouldn't laugh...had the same situation when I played juniors....3/4 guys went off to play As while the rest of us stayed and fielded with 6/7 fielders...we won too :D
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Re: Port Pirie Cricket Association 2011/12

Postby bigstack » Tue Nov 15, 2011 6:47 pm

Squids wrote:I shouldn't laugh...had the same situation when I played juniors....3/4 guys went off to play As while the rest of us stayed and fielded with 6/7 fielders...we won too :D


Shock! Horror! It's now revealed it has happened before in Pirie cricket, the sky didn't fall in and squids is still enjoying a game of cricket. By the way, did they happen to have double headers back when that occurred ? If so i wonder what spin GTG's will use to explain that one.

On a more serious note i am told in the case of the b grade forfeit double headers would not have made any difference and in the junior game what occurred happened due to several late minute withdrawals from the prop a grade team. I'm told it could have been handled a little better but it is hardly a major crisis. While on double headers, to back up some earlier info i had received it has again been confirmed to me by two people who attended that meeting double headers would still be in in some form if clubs had been allowed to talk on the matter. When D/H's were in did any club abuse or misuse that rule? Pehaps GtG's should look else where before being critical of others.
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Re: Port Pirie Cricket Association 2011/12

Postby Squids » Tue Nov 15, 2011 6:53 pm

Yes this was in the days of double ups but would of still been okay today as we were playing juniors and juniors are allowed to play two grades...which I think is fair...good for the development of Pirie cricket which by the combined game results needs to happen...

I am not sure what brought on the double up rule in, if my memory serves me correctly it was Warnertown not wanting to play against Agraders in the Bgrade but can not be certain.
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Re: Port Pirie Cricket Association 2011/12

Postby bigstack » Tue Nov 15, 2011 7:36 pm

Squids wrote:Yes this was in the days of double ups but would of still been okay today as we were playing juniors and juniors are allowed to play two grades...which I think is fair...good for the development of Pirie cricket which by the combined game results needs to happen...

I am not sure what brought on the double up rule in, if my memory serves me correctly it was Warnertown not wanting to play against Agraders in the Bgrade but can not be certain.


I think you may be right, I believe it was always meant to allow players to go up a grade it was not meant to allow clubs to flood their b grade teams with a graders. Again i am told if players were allowed to go up only, these clubs would be ok with D/H's. I am trying to find out if whyalla or port augusta need D/H's, if they don't need them with similar competitions why do we? We must be doing something wrong. Rather than blaming rules we should be looking at what has created the problem. From what i have seen and been told clubs did abuse the rule so you can't blame the minor clubs for jacking up.
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Re: Port Pirie Cricket Association 2011/12

Postby Go the greens » Wed Nov 16, 2011 9:13 am

bigstack wrote:
Squids wrote:I shouldn't laugh...had the same situation when I played juniors....3/4 guys went off to play As while the rest of us stayed and fielded with 6/7 fielders...we won too :D


Shock! Horror! It's now revealed it has happened before in Pirie cricket, the sky didn't fall in and squids is still enjoying a game of cricket. By the way, did they happen to have double headers back when that occurred ? If so i wonder what spin GTG's will use to explain that one.


Spin? What about facts- read his quote, what 'happened' is they didnt forfeit #-o

Why didnt Props take the fielders offered from Wandearah to cover those going and finish the game?
Why didnt they wait as none of them batted and werent required till they fielded?
Why didnt Props use B grade players that had the chance of a full game already- yes they sacrifice B grade points but instead they sacrifice one of the much fewer games the kids get? Surely the kids comp comes before B's.

If its a choice of two evils, double ups v forfeits, Ill take double ups everytime. No team I know has ever won a Champions League flag with double ups so who cares, it has never mattered a scrap.

I am sure if Props had their time over again they would do it differently, but as predicted we are left with really disappointing outcomes like this.
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Re: Port Pirie Cricket Association 2011/12

Postby bigstack » Wed Nov 16, 2011 11:05 am

Go the greens wrote:
bigstack wrote:
Squids wrote:I shouldn't laugh...had the same situation when I played juniors....3/4 guys went off to play As while the rest of us stayed and fielded with 6/7 fielders...we won too :D


Shock! Horror! It's now revealed it has happened before in Pirie cricket, the sky didn't fall in and squids is still enjoying a game of cricket. By the way, did they happen to have double headers back when that occurred ? If so i wonder what spin GTG's will use to explain that one.


Spin? What about facts- read his quote, what 'happened' is they didnt forfeit #-o

Why didnt Props take the fielders offered from Wandearah to cover those going and finish the game?
Why didnt they wait as none of them batted and werent required till they fielded?
Why didnt Props use B grade players that had the chance of a full game already- yes they sacrifice B grade points but instead they sacrifice one of the much fewer games the kids get? Surely the kids comp comes before B's.

Read "could have been handled better" Hindsight is a wonderful thing after the event.
First two why's - only props can respond to those points. Ask them.
Third why - not within the rules? Program more kids games if thats an issue or is that to hard. Hypocrisy abounds when people start deciding what comp comes before another, usually depends on the vested interests of the people concerned. Me thinks you protesteth too much.

If its a choice of two evils, double ups v forfeits, Ill take double ups everytime. No team I know has ever won a Champions League flag with double ups so who cares, it has never mattered a scrap.

I am sure if Props had their time over again they would do it differently, but as predicted we are left with really disappointing outcomes like this.
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Re: Port Pirie Cricket Association 2011/12

Postby Go the greens » Wed Nov 16, 2011 11:44 am

bigstack wrote:First two why's - only props can respond to those points. Ask them.
Third why - not within the rules? Program more kids games if thats an issue or is that to hard. Hypocrisy abounds when people start deciding what comp comes before another, usually depends on the vested interests of the people concerned. Me thinks you protesteth too much.


Within the rules! Not sure forfeiting during the game is within the rules?! :-k
'Hypocrisy abounds when people start deciding what comp comes before another' Your argument makes no sense- that's exactly what Props did! Decided A's before 17's which is fair enough but my point is that with the rules as they stand, it was predicted this would happen and it did. Hopefully it wont happen again, but I fear it will.
Happy to let this lie and be proved wrong.
As for my prosthetic being too much, she seems happy with it :)
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Re: Port Pirie Cricket Association 2011/12

Postby Squids » Wed Nov 16, 2011 12:01 pm

What time do juniors start these days? Used to be 8:30 in my day and the game would be over around 12:00, just in time for the Agrade to start in case anyone had to help fill a team. By the sounds of it the game on the weekend just have started at 10:30, which is a little silly in my opinion.
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Re: Port Pirie Cricket Association 2011/12

Postby bigstack » Thu Nov 17, 2011 7:28 am

Go the greens wrote:
bigstack wrote:First two why's - only props can respond to those points. Ask them.
Third why - not within the rules? Program more kids games if thats an issue or is that to hard. Hypocrisy abounds when people start deciding what comp comes before another, usually depends on the vested interests of the people concerned. Me thinks you protesteth too much.


Within the rules! Not sure forfeiting during the game is within the rules?! :-k
'Hypocrisy abounds when people start deciding what comp comes before another' Your argument makes no sense- that's exactly what Props did! Decided A's before 17's which is fair enough but my point is that with the rules as they stand, it was predicted this would happen and it did. Hopefully it wont happen again, but I fear it will.
Happy to let this lie and be proved wrong.
As for my prosthetic being too much, she seems happy with it :)


Also happy to let lie in what i see as a minor hiccup in a transitional period from a past practice to a different one. GtG's did lead with his chin though with his final comment. Out of respect for "she" i refuse to respond with what would be the most obvious of responses.
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Re: Port Pirie Cricket Association 2011/12

Postby Squids » Thu Nov 17, 2011 11:59 am

I hear Risdon are missing a stack of players this week, might be vulnerable against the bowling of D.Foster who got 4/9 last weekend.

Hopefully no forfeits this weekend!
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Re: Port Pirie Cricket Association 2011/12

Postby whichgrade » Thu Nov 17, 2011 12:13 pm

Squids wrote:I hear Risdon are missing a stack of players this week, might be vulnerable against the bowling of D.Foster who got 4/9 last weekend.

Hopefully no forfeits this weekend!


would it be fair to say that they are missing a big stack of players
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Re: Port Pirie Cricket Association 2011/12

Postby Squids » Thu Nov 17, 2011 12:21 pm

whichgrade wrote:
Squids wrote:I hear Risdon are missing a stack of players this week, might be vulnerable against the bowling of D.Foster who got 4/9 last weekend.

Hopefully no forfeits this weekend!


would it be fair to say that they are missing a big stack of players


HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA

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Re: Port Pirie Cricket Association 2011/12

Postby bigstack » Fri Nov 18, 2011 6:25 am

Squids wrote:
whichgrade wrote:
Squids wrote:I hear Risdon are missing a stack of players this week, might be vulnerable against the bowling of D.Foster who got 4/9 last weekend.

Hopefully no forfeits this weekend!


would it be fair to say that they are missing a big stack of players


HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA

great call


Good to see you get a laugh squids. I think whichgrade would starve on the comedy circuit.

On a more serious note, little rumour coming out of the Brook area. If true will not bother our cricket except make another interesting talking point.
Can't confirm yet but will try to with a few Brooky's i know. Have a guess.
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Re: Port Pirie Cricket Association 2011/12

Postby Go the greens » Fri Nov 18, 2011 7:21 am

bigstack wrote:On a more serious note, little rumour coming out of the Brook area. If true will not bother our cricket except make another interesting talking point.
Can't confirm yet but will try to with a few Brooky's i know. Have a guess.


Not bother our cricket? Hope youre right.
With what has happened here & there in the last couple of years cant believe that no ears have pricked up here earlier.
Is there a time bomb ticking?
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