212 Jobs Axed at Castalloy

[Bat Pad]

Precisely.

As for its relevance, I look forward to you being as zealous on other posters' offerings, BP. Definite Mod potential

Precisely indeed

Which is probably why other posters on this thread are concerned that our current posistion may be threatened by some policies of the current government.

Which is why this thread was started

Thus far all other posters have managed to stay relevant.

[Bat Pad]

Who is possum then ? You say he or she or it is a creditable journalist ... Is that their real name ?

Graphs , articles etc... Is the usual spin people in management usually do to use their smoke and mirrors method of everything is fine in the world !!!

I shall say again .. Go speak to the workers at castalloy R&B and tell them to cheer up as everything is fine according to your graphs !!

I speak to the people on the street and there is not much positive energy out there mate !!!

There is nothing incorrect in the article

The article also has nothing to do with the situation at Castalloy

Unless you take it in the context that, with the economy going so strong between 1985 and 2010, what has occured recently regarding our economy to contribute to this situation, if they are indeed linked?

[redandblack]

southee, they're not my graphs.

They're graphs of a large number of economic indicators that show that Australia is as a country is way ahead of the world. Hardly a 'ruined economy'.

You don't need to tell me many people are doing it tough. I've long supported more equality of wealth distribution, so that the people doing it tough get a better deal. Many of those who oppose a carbon tax are annoyed that it's a mild wealth redistribution.

The Castalloy situation has bugger all to do with a not-yet-introduced carbon tax.

By the way, I have vast sympathy for the Castalloy workers. My late father worked in the foundry there for many years, one of the reasons I tend to support the workers when these things happen.

[Bat Pad]

Might quickly add that of course the economy wasn't going so great at times during 1985 and 2010, however there cleary was good average growth.

[southee]

R&B .... Well I worked there in the late 90's

Enjoy your weekend

[Hondo]

Component suppliers for the motor vehicle industry have been closing down for a long time now. Castalloy aren't the first. In fact Castallow were saved by Harley Davidson back in 2006 so HD could guarantee their components supply.

So I don't think there is a link back to the Carbon tax. The automative manufacturing industry in Australia is facing bigger challenges than the carbon tax. It's not like now they are suddenly uncompetitive. They already were.

On my reading of the article on Adelaide Now it seems like as soon as the Government support for continuing the business stopped, which it did recently, the shut-down decision that was delayed back in 2006 was finally made.

My sympathies go out to the 212 workers. Let's hope there's enough wind down time for them to find new jobs. There doesn't seem to be any risk to their entitlements which is good.

[redandblack]

R&B .... Well I worked there in the late 90's

Enjoy your weekend

Thanks, mate, you too

[scoob]

All this negativity about the Australian economy is hard to understand.

Here are some facts. It's a long article, totally factual, with lots of graphs and things, but it puts everything into perspective.

If you don't read it, that's fine, but you won't be informed.

If you do read it, you won't talk about the Australia doing it tough.

http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollytics/

Just about the best explanation of where we are that I've seen.

Oh, sincere good wishes to all on the Politics Forum.

Compared to 1931 we are in fantastic economical shape - it is purely the MSM falsely saying that there is turmoil in the economic world that is spooking everyone

[redandblack]

scoob, compared with the rest of the world we're in fantastic shape now.

Not compared with the rest of the world, we're in fantastic shape now.

Your last disingenuous statement is not connected to anything I've said, but me being supposedly off-topic has generated a lot of discussion, so all good.

There will always be some who are struggling, but my philosophy is much more towards helping them than many on here

(Unless you can say with a straight face that Mr Abbott wants to help them)

[The Sleeping Giant]

That sucks. I know someone who I think still works there.

Shame people loosing jobs turns into political point scoring.

[scoob]

scoob, compared with the rest of the world we're in fantastic shape now.

Not compared with the rest of the world, we're in fantastic shape now.

Your last disingenuous statement is not connected to anything I've said, but me being supposedly off-topic has generated a lot of discussion, so all good.

There will always be some who are struggling, but my philosophy is much more towards helping them than many on here

(Unless you can say with a straight face that Mr Abbott wants to help them)

Introducing legislation that will hurt the manufacturing is not helping them... who cares if its off topic - if it creates discussion go for it mate - that's my person opinion... haven't seen your thoughts on the loss 40 000 full time jobs on the other thread as yet?

[Gozu]

That sucks. I know someone who I think still works there.

Shame people loosing jobs turns into political point scoring.

Agreed and that goes for both sides.

[Jimmy_041]

All this negativity about the Australian economy is hard to understand.

Here are some facts. It's a long article, totally factual, with lots of graphs and things, but it puts everything into perspective.

If you don't read it, that's fine, but you won't be informed.

If you do read it, you won't talk about the Australia doing it tough.

http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollytics/

Just about the best explanation of where we are that I've seen.

Oh, sincere good wishes to all on the Politics Forum.

It's in Crikey so it must be correct

[redandblack]

Thanks scoob. I haven't commented on the jobless figures as there wasn't much change, even allowing for media spin.

I was just amused at others' comments, as when they're good, it isn't anything to do with the government, it's due to a government 4 years ago, but when they're not so good, it's Gillard's fault.

I love the Politics Forum

[scoob]

Thanks scoob. I haven't commented on the jobless figures as there wasn't much change, even allowing for media spin.

I was just amused at others' comments, as when they're good, it isn't anything to do with the government, it's due to a government 4 years ago, but when they're not so good, it's Gillard's fault.

I love the Politics Forum

Ah and vice versa - when there is good economical news is the work of the world greatest treasurer - when is bad news its the GFC and media spinning negatively!

Love the politics forum

[redandblack]

I agree totally, mate

[Gozu]

Even Tony Abbott now admits Wayne Swan is the world's greatest treasurer:

'Unfortunately ... he might be the world's greatest treasurer but he doesn't seem to have a lot of authority with local banks,' Mr Abbott told Macquarie Radio.

http://www.skynews.com.au/topstories/ar ... %20Stories



Poor Tone stuck with Sloppy Joe and his Hockeynomics.

[scoob]

I agree totally, mate

I thought you would

[scoob]

Even Tony Abbott now admits Wayne Swan is the world's greatest treasurer:

'Unfortunately ... he might be the world's greatest treasurer but he doesn't seem to have a lot of authority with local banks,' Mr Abbott told Macquarie Radio.

http://www.skynews.com.au/topstories/ar ... %20Stories



Poor Tone stuck with Sloppy Joe and his Hockeynomics.

Watch R&B will be onto for name calling!

[southee]

Even Tony Abbott now admits Wayne Swan is the world's greatest treasurer:

'Unfortunately ... he might be the world's greatest treasurer but he doesn't seem to have a lot of authority with local banks,' Mr Abbott told Macquarie Radio.

http://www.skynews.com.au/topstories/ar ... %20Stories



Poor Tone stuck with Sloppy Joe and his Hockeynomics.

Watch R&B will be onto for name calling!

Just don't use bitch or witch ... You will be fine