Interest Rate Cuts

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Interest Rate Cuts

Postby Sojourner » Thu Dec 08, 2011 10:14 am

Thought it was likely by this morning that we would have heard what the four banks plan to do in respect to lowering interest rates now that the cash rate has come down. Abbott spoke to the media and stated that he felt that Wayne Swan was not doing enough to make them do this and so on.

I suppose I have two comments, one is that I am not sure what Swan can actually do outside of renationalising the Commonwealth bank? Secondly they have made it easier for people to switch loans from one bank to another, if the Governmnet are really so worried about the general people affected, why not simply undertake free advertising for groups like the Bank of Queensland and so on that have lowered ther rates? - Advising people that they can simply switch to someone else with less red tape than what there used to be. Banks might well lower their rates if they start losing customers to their competitors?
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Re: Interest Rate Cuts

Postby Psyber » Thu Dec 08, 2011 10:27 am

Adjusting bank rates to match official reserve shifts has never been automatic, and it is only posturing politicians who say it should be.
(It is a bit like them suggesting doctors should bulk bill, despite the Medicare rebate being 40% behind inflation.)
Business decisions get made for business reasons..

Unless they decide to nationalise one or more banks there is not much they can do to interfere with the banks business decisions.
Even when they did own the Commonwealth Bank it didn't make a lot of difference, and the ALP tried nationalisation once many years ago.
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Re: Interest Rate Cuts

Postby redandblack » Thu Dec 08, 2011 11:17 am

I'm sure the banks costs of fund raising is an issue.

On the other hand, they're making record profits, so selective arguments won't wash.

After they were effectively guaranteed by the Government during the GFC (socialisation?), they owe us the full cut.
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Re: Interest Rate Cuts

Postby overloaded » Thu Dec 08, 2011 11:44 am

redandblack wrote:I'm sure the banks costs of fund raising is an issue.

On the other hand, they're making record profits, so selective arguments won't wash.

After they were effectively guaranteed by the Government during the GFC (socialisation?), they owe us the full cut.

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Re: Interest Rate Cuts

Postby Dirko » Thu Dec 08, 2011 11:46 am

The "exit fee" abolishment is a crock of shit anyhow.

Sure no exit fees, but they just sting you on the other end with "establishment" fees.
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Re: Interest Rate Cuts

Postby Sojourner » Thu Dec 08, 2011 12:41 pm

I guess it was bound to happen sooner or later - I find myself largley agreeing with the Greens!!! :shock:

If the Banks want to suck on the tit of Government Welfare then maybe they should have an obligation to pass on rate cuts as directed to by the Treasurer? Maybe its not unreasonable that it be directly related?

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/838 ... tell-banks
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Re: Interest Rate Cuts

Postby scoob » Thu Dec 08, 2011 1:17 pm

ANZ has passed on the cut in full
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Re: Interest Rate Cuts

Postby Psyber » Thu Dec 08, 2011 7:02 pm

redandblack wrote:I'm sure the banks costs of fund raising is an issue.
On the other hand, they're making record profits, so selective arguments won't wash.
After they were effectively guaranteed by the Government during the GFC (socialisation?), they owe us the full cut.
That action was to reassure the public and stop panic, not necessarily for the banks benefit, nor, necessarily, a necessity.
(Forgive the choice of words, "a foolish figure", but I enjoyed it. ;) )

While I found it personally reassuring, there is no evidence the Australian banks needed guaranteeing, or, therefore, owe anything for it..
So, I'm sceptical that it is a valid point to make above..

That said, I approve of the banks handing it on if it is practical, even if it may marginally affect my dividends.
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Re: Interest Rate Cuts

Postby redandblack » Thu Dec 08, 2011 7:09 pm

Did I really say 'socialisation' :shock:

Try socialism.
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Re: Interest Rate Cuts

Postby Sojourner » Thu Dec 08, 2011 10:45 pm

NAB have passed it on also!
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Re: Interest Rate Cuts

Postby gossipgirl » Fri Dec 09, 2011 9:49 am

Commonwealth bank announced it will pass on in full :D
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Re: Interest Rate Cuts

Postby dedja » Fri Dec 09, 2011 10:25 pm

*cough* credit card rates *cough*
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Re: Interest Rate Cuts

Postby Jim05 » Fri Dec 09, 2011 10:35 pm

Heard a fella on radio from WESTPAC state that this would be the last cut they could afford and next year they wouldnt be able to pass on anymore cuts
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Re: Interest Rate Cuts

Postby dedja » Fri Dec 09, 2011 10:40 pm

Dunno, I’m just an idiot.

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Re: Interest Rate Cuts

Postby Sojourner » Sat Dec 10, 2011 8:55 am

Jim05 wrote:Heard a fella on radio from WESTPAC state that this would be the last cut they could afford and next year they wouldnt be able to pass on anymore cuts


Problem is Bank of Queensland are passing on the Cuts as are several others, One thing that I do have to commend Treasurer Swan for is making it much easier to simply switch banks. Westpac can retain their high rates, yet nothing stops people from simply moving else where!
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Re: Interest Rate Cuts

Postby redandblack » Sat Dec 10, 2011 10:01 am

Westpac's cost of funds is increasing - correct.

Westpac therefore say they can't afford to pass on the rate cuts - correct.

Westpac are making record profits - correct.

Westpac's credit card interest rates rarely drop with a rate cut - ?????????????

Selective arguments.
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Re: Interest Rate Cuts

Postby Mad Mat » Sat Dec 10, 2011 12:50 pm

redandblack wrote:Westpac's cost of funds is increasing - correct.

Westpac therefore say they can't afford to pass on the rate cuts - correct.

Westpac are making record profits - correct.

Westpac's credit card interest rates rarely drop with a rate cut - ?????????????

Selective arguments.


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Re: Interest Rate Cuts

Postby Sojourner » Tue Apr 24, 2012 2:07 pm

Various commentators are suggesting that a .25% or even a .50% cut may be on the way next Tuesday - or perhaps even two .25% cuts with the second at month or more away. Westpac already seem to be suggesting that they may not pass on the cut - Dejavu?
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Re: Interest Rate Cuts

Postby GWW » Tue Apr 24, 2012 3:47 pm

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Re: Interest Rate Cuts

Postby mighty_tiger_79 » Tue Apr 24, 2012 7:04 pm

the RBA Cut rates, but the banks dont pass on the full cut. the RBA keep rates on hold so the banks slightly increase the rates
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