SAAFL Division 6 & D6R (2012)

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Who will make the Grand Final?

Adelaide University
7
3%
Blackfriars OS
16
7%
Central United
14
6%
Colonel Light Gardens
13
6%
Houghton
7
3%
Ingle Farm
12
5%
Lockleys
18
8%
Mawson Lakes
39
17%
Trinity OS
20
9%
Woodville South
84
37%
 
Total votes : 230

Re: SAAFL Division 6 & D6R (2012)

Postby finn » Wed Jan 04, 2012 11:52 am

BFG wrote:
finn wrote:
Quichey wrote:
Yank Man wrote:Paul Rhigas is definately coaching Uni again. Watch out for them this season as it seems Uni want their B's playing Div 6 against the MEN. Could be interesting.


They somewhat did that this year. I was told the coaches there rate D6 better than D2R.


The coaches don't necessarily think it's a better standard but they like the fact that div 6 plays time on and longer quarters. It also allows the a grade coach to have a look at younger players in the b grade while those older and known players returning from injury can play a bit longer. The coaches think it may be a bit more physical but not as quick.


you're probably right there in regards to it being more physical but not as quick. the question i'd like to know the answer to is if the 2R team would be the div 6 team or the other way around. if a C grade team would beat a B grade team at a particular club, i dont think thats all that fair


If the b grade is playing div 6 then its the b grade of the club, if its in 2 reserves its still the b grade; it depends on how the club wishes to order its grades as there's nothing stopping any club (eg SHOC, PAOC, Tea Tree Gully etc) from ordering their multiple grades this way. A club must nominate to the League before the year starts in which order their sides are being picked to ensure finals qualification criteria are adhered to.
No decision has been made and I'd believe that there'll be no hard and fast club rule apart from where the A grade coach (trimmer) believes the player will benefit the most.
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Re: SAAFL Division 6 & D6R (2012)

Postby marbles » Wed Jan 04, 2012 12:14 pm

Making their C grade play div2 reserves will see them possibly get thrashed every week. Maybe not so bad as if it was div 1 reserves but wins will be minimal.

Taking this strategy actually sacrifices the joy and fun from the c grade players giving them a year of pain just so the b grade can play longer quarters to enhance the As.

Probably end up losing players
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Re: SAAFL Division 6 & D6R (2012)

Postby hotpies » Wed Jan 04, 2012 12:24 pm

marbles wrote:Making their C grade play div2 reserves will see them possibly get thrashed every week. Maybe not so bad as if it was div 1 reserves but wins will be minimal.

Taking this strategy actually sacrifices the joy and fun from the c grade players giving them a year of pain just so the b grade can play longer quarters to enhance the As.

Probably end up losing players

This whole letting them play longer quarters is rubbish all it sounds to me is a club trying to maximise the amount of premierships they can win!

I'm with you Marbles it will take the joy & fun out of the C graders if they have to play Div 2R and get pumped everyweek.
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Re: SAAFL Division 6 & D6R (2012)

Postby marbles » Wed Jan 04, 2012 1:14 pm

hotpies wrote:
marbles wrote:Making their C grade play div2 reserves will see them possibly get thrashed every week. Maybe not so bad as if it was div 1 reserves but wins will be minimal.

Taking this strategy actually sacrifices the joy and fun from the c grade players giving them a year of pain just so the b grade can play longer quarters to enhance the As.

Probably end up losing players

This whole letting them play longer quarters is rubbish all it sounds to me is a club trying to maximise the amount of premierships they can win!

I'm with you Marbles it will take the joy & fun out of the C graders if they have to play Div 2R and get pumped everyweek.


yeah man, its a great boost strategy for the A's, but everyone else at club will suffer

if i was an Adelaide Uni C-grader i wouldnt be lookin forward to the season
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Re: SAAFL Division 6 & D6R (2012)

Postby Q. » Wed Jan 04, 2012 1:26 pm

I think you're all blowing this out of proportion. Anyone that saw AU's C-Grade play last year would know that there'd be a dozen players in that side who would play just as well, if not better, in their D2R side.
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Re: SAAFL Division 6 & D6R (2012)

Postby BFG » Wed Jan 04, 2012 2:00 pm

If the b grade is playing div 6 then its the b grade of the club, if its in 2 reserves its still the b grade; it depends on how the club wishes to order its grades as there's nothing stopping any club (eg SHOC, PAOC, Tea Tree Gully etc) from ordering their multiple grades this way. A club must nominate to the League before the year starts in which order their sides are being picked to ensure finals qualification criteria are adhered to.No decision has been made and I'd believe that there'll be no hard and fast club rule apart from where the A grade coach (trimmer) believes the player will benefit the most.
there is nothing stopping you at all doing exactly what you've stated above and to be honest it may in fact be the right thing to do by the club. i'd be the first to put my hand up and say that i dont think there would be a huge difference in quality between your b grade and c grade sides. its more just the idea of playing a side that is supposed to be in a different grade. dont think it will effect the div a whole lot but we'll just have to wait and see
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Re: SAAFL Division 6 & D6R (2012)

Postby Perfect Drug » Wed Jan 04, 2012 2:55 pm

BFG wrote:
If the b grade is playing div 6 then its the b grade of the club, if its in 2 reserves its still the b grade; it depends on how the club wishes to order its grades as there's nothing stopping any club (eg SHOC, PAOC, Tea Tree Gully etc) from ordering their multiple grades this way. A club must nominate to the League before the year starts in which order their sides are being picked to ensure finals qualification criteria are adhered to.No decision has been made and I'd believe that there'll be no hard and fast club rule apart from where the A grade coach (trimmer) believes the player will benefit the most.
there is nothing stopping you at all doing exactly what you've stated above and to be honest it may in fact be the right thing to do by the club. i'd be the first to put my hand up and say that i dont think there would be a huge difference in quality between your b grade and c grade sides. its more just the idea of playing a side that is supposed to be in a different grade. dont think it will effect the div a whole lot but we'll just have to wait and see


My 2 cents worth...

I don't think there is much difference between the "B's" and "C's" at Blacks to be honest. What would stand out though, if they chose to adopt this methodology, would be any "A" graders returning from injury/poor form via the Div 6 side.
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Re: SAAFL Division 6 & D6R (2012)

Postby BFG » Wed Jan 04, 2012 3:17 pm

Perfect Drug wrote:
BFG wrote:
If the b grade is playing div 6 then its the b grade of the club, if its in 2 reserves its still the b grade; it depends on how the club wishes to order its grades as there's nothing stopping any club (eg SHOC, PAOC, Tea Tree Gully etc) from ordering their multiple grades this way. A club must nominate to the League before the year starts in which order their sides are being picked to ensure finals qualification criteria are adhered to.No decision has been made and I'd believe that there'll be no hard and fast club rule apart from where the A grade coach (trimmer) believes the player will benefit the most.
there is nothing stopping you at all doing exactly what you've stated above and to be honest it may in fact be the right thing to do by the club. i'd be the first to put my hand up and say that i dont think there would be a huge difference in quality between your b grade and c grade sides. its more just the idea of playing a side that is supposed to be in a different grade. dont think it will effect the div a whole lot but we'll just have to wait and see


My 2 cents worth...

I don't think there is much difference between the "B's" and "C's" at Blacks to be honest. What would stand out though, if they chose to adopt this methodology, would be any "A" graders returning from injury/poor form via the Div 6 side.



hadnt even thought of that, fingers crossed that this will not be the case.
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Re: SAAFL Division 6 & D6R (2012)

Postby The Riddler » Wed Jan 04, 2012 4:02 pm

BFG wrote:
Perfect Drug wrote:[My 2 cents worth...

I don't think there is much difference between the "B's" and "C's" at Blacks to be honest. What would stand out though, if they chose to adopt this methodology, would be any "A" graders returning from injury/poor form via the Div 6 side.



hadnt even thought of that, fingers crossed that this will not be the case.

Wouldn't make any difference they still wouldn't beat Central United...Hi Carey :D
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Re: SAAFL Division 6 & D6R (2012)

Postby BFG » Wed Jan 04, 2012 4:04 pm

The Riddler wrote:
BFG wrote:
Perfect Drug wrote:[My 2 cents worth...

I don't think there is much difference between the "B's" and "C's" at Blacks to be honest. What would stand out though, if they chose to adopt this methodology, would be any "A" graders returning from injury/poor form via the Div 6 side.



hadnt even thought of that, fingers crossed that this will not be the case.

Wouldn't make any difference they still wouldn't beat Central United...Hi Carey :D


or woodville south and ingle farm plus dont write off your boys riddler.

top 4 pretty much sewn up i would think :P
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Re: SAAFL Division 6 & D6R (2012)

Postby marbles » Wed Jan 04, 2012 11:48 pm

Uni has how many teams? 7? How do the all train on the same oval
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Re: SAAFL Division 6 & D6R (2012)

Postby finn » Thu Jan 05, 2012 12:53 am

marbles wrote:Uni has how many teams? 7? How do the all train on the same oval

two grounds - park 10 and beautiful university oval.
c grade train with the a and b's but those core members of the c grade train on park 10 on thursdays unless looking like they play b grade. Means that we have to up 5 grades training on one oval; drills become a bit congested but it works out as we rotate teams through one end of the ground. Some of the lower sides have their main training on the tuesday.
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Re: SAAFL Division 6 & D6R (2012)

Postby Yank Man » Thu Jan 05, 2012 7:59 am

So BFG who would that top 4 be? Just interested to know.
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Re: SAAFL Division 6 & D6R (2012)

Postby marbles » Thu Jan 05, 2012 9:32 am

Could always tell them soccer boys to go to oval 10 then reinvent the whole main oval fields to be a huge centre of football
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Re: SAAFL Division 6 & D6R (2012)

Postby BFG » Thu Jan 05, 2012 5:47 pm

Yank Man wrote:So BFG who would that top 4 be? Just interested to know.


was more just a BS comment but my tip for the top four would be CU, woody sth, trinity and BOS with CLG sneaking into the five hopefully ;)
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Re: SAAFL Division 6 & D6R (2012)

Postby Yank Man » Fri Jan 06, 2012 7:04 am

BFG wrote:
Yank Man wrote:So BFG who would that top 4 be? Just interested to know.


was more just a BS comment but my tip for the top four would be CU, woody sth, trinity and BOS with CLG sneaking into the five hopefully ;)


You don't rate Uni or Mawson Lakes?
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Re: SAAFL Division 6 & D6R (2012)

Postby Marching In » Fri Jan 06, 2012 7:34 am

Yank Man wrote:
BFG wrote:
Yank Man wrote:So BFG who would that top 4 be? Just interested to know.


was more just a BS comment but my tip for the top four would be CU, woody sth, trinity and BOS with CLG sneaking into the five hopefully ;)


You don't rate Uni or Mawson Lakes?

Silly question.
You asked for a top 4, not a top 6.
Even then, he gave you a top 5.

Wow, I think I just confused myself!¡!¡!
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Re: SAAFL Division 6 & D6R (2012)

Postby DKL » Fri Jan 06, 2012 8:26 am

Yank Man wrote:
BFG wrote:
Yank Man wrote:So BFG who would that top 4 be? Just interested to know.


was more just a BS comment but my tip for the top four would be CU, woody sth, trinity and BOS with CLG sneaking into the five hopefully ;)


You don't rate Uni or Mawson Lakes?

Who do you think the top 4 will be Yank Man in your opinion?
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Re: SAAFL Division 6 & D6R (2012)

Postby BFG » Fri Jan 06, 2012 9:58 am

Yank Man wrote:
BFG wrote:
Yank Man wrote:So BFG who would that top 4 be? Just interested to know.


was more just a BS comment but my tip for the top four would be CU, woody sth, trinity and BOS with CLG sneaking into the five hopefully ;)


You don't rate Uni or Mawson Lakes?



i think historically its been tough for teams coming up from div 7, this year was a bit different with glenunga central united and uni all putting very good performances in but the years previous teams have struggled to make finals. unless mawson have had a massive recruiting campaign as glenunga and CU had last year then i cant see them making the finals just from what i saw at the div 7 GF last year. Uni will probably finish around the same as they did last year (6th i think?) i will say one thing i do expect this division to be extremely competitive and even. dont think there will be an easybeat this year.
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Re: SAAFL Division 6 & D6R (2012)

Postby TOSSER » Fri Jan 06, 2012 10:03 am

This is the way I see things at the moment in our Div. A lot of this is based on the discussion on this forum and we all know how truthful some of this can be! It's still such a long way out from the season and things can change a fair bit in the next 3 months as we all know.

Adelaide Uni - who knows really? They have such a huge base of players to choose from and these players don't always play in grade that they should. A number of their players could play higher if they wanted to. One thing I think we can all agree on is that they are always competitive.

BOS - Played some great footy last season and when they played us the movement of the footy when they spread from a contested situation was very good. If, and it's only a rumour I believe, the Hillman boys don't play as well as Blunt and Demasi who have long term injuries it will bring them back to the field you would think.

Central United - A lot of rumours of heavy recruiting (thanks to Riddler). Bellman will be a great addition as they struggled a little in the ruck last season IMO. But they have lost arguably their best defender (Abdulla) and their leading goalkicker (Hall) and probably a handful of players back to Smithfield with Andy Stewart (but I don't think it will be any of their key players) so will have to wait and see who else Dutchy has brought to the club.

Col Light - Not much has been mentioned about them. BFG and Zed have kept things close to their chest. They certainly improved towards the end of last season after a big turnover in players last year. All depends if they can keep the key players from last years group and add a couple more quality players.

Houghton - Once again not much has been mentioned about recruiting. Generally play well at home but seem to struggle away. Liam Davis is a key to this team and if he doesn't play they could find things tough.

Ingle Farm - All depends on the standard of their recruits and how well they gel together. Would have to improve on their last few years you would think but they have lost Tremain an Moore (2 of their better players from last year). Malbunka up forward has proved a handful for some teams and would be interesting if this journeyman has decided to stay at the club.

Lockleys - obviously struggled in Div 5 after going up due to the loss of their 3 best players in Williams, Mickan and Corbett. Rumours of a few going to Flinders Park perhaps. But a new coach with some new recruits could see them go okay.

Mawson Lakes - From what I saw in the GF, they have some very handy players in the middle of the ground and some good forward options which it appears they have added to so you would expect them to be very competitive.

TOS - We have lost a couple of A graders but got a couple of past A graders back to the club. Hopefully with our top players being able to get on the park more regularly this season we will be able to improve on last year.

Woodville South - 8 wins in Div 5 and getting relegated is as tough as it gets. If they can almost play finals in Div 5 then you would have to say they appear to be the ones to catch. The recruitment of Stubberfield (ex-West Croydon) will cause some anxious moments for defenders. But is their as much difference between Div 5 and Div 6 as most people think? A number of Div 6 GF teams have moved through Div 5 fairly quickly in the last 5 years which would suggest that the gap between these divisions may not be that big. I could be wrong (and probably am)!
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