SAAFL Clubs - Financial Positions?

[blublurag]

Just interested to hear of the financial state of any of the SAAFL clubs. I think most Clubs are doing it tough.

Some discussion might provoke some thought at higher levels. After all, SANFL is not grassroots, country and metropolitan leagues are. I hate it when the SANFL is referred to as grassroots football by various media people.

To get the conversation started, Athelstone have done it pretty tough but are coming out the other side and the future looks good. Salisbury North would be going along pretty nicely IMO.

[Pag]

I think we eneded the season with about $560 in the bank account, we being Salisbury, which for us is sensational.

I'm sure Salisbury North are still the best-off club in the SAAFL. Still unfortunate that they can't buy themselves a Div 1 premiership. That surprises me about Athelstone. They always give us a free beer after games out there and the clubrooms and facilities look pretty sweet as well.

[BM]

Gepps Cross FC financially sound. Strong junior footy numbers, looks like a successful cricket season which means more $$$ over the bar, some good recruiting for footy in 2006 and over 600 community club members sets up pretty well. Have reigned in expenditure over the past 2 years and with a new major sponsor on board (Sterling Homes) and the $400k extension to the club we would have the best facilities in the SAAFL.

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Gepps Cross FC financially sound. Strong junior footy numbers, looks like a successful cricket season which means more $$$ over the bar, some good recruiting for footy in 2006 and over 600 community club members sets up pretty well. Have reigned in expenditure over the past 2 years and with a new major sponsor on board (Sterling Homes) and the $400k extension to the club we would have the best facilities in the SAAFL.

Geppys junior numbers have picked up over the past couple of years, they were only fielding teams in every 2nd age grade at one stage. It's a hard area to field strong junior numbers with Broadys, Para Hills, & Ingle Farm all within a bulls roar. Walkerville & Fitzroy have the private schools all but stitched up around there & Greenacres are trying to revive their juniors which they believe they will get from players at the above clubs.
Unless the club is playing A1's or 2's the junior developtment is crutial for strong numbers in the seniors, with up to around 60% coming through from their junior ranks. This is why Greenacres hit the skids after ignoring & letting their junior teams just fade away. It provides a steady player base for the seniors.

[duncs7]

After a tough patch were starting to build a large bank account. We are a few thousand ahead of our bills.
A double premiership helps the bar out, as well as having a Darts club now based at Argana Park.

[BM]

Shiek. Spot on Gepps' juniors are improving each year. I coach one of the junior teams and since Neil Rawlings with the help of Andrew Pearce as Sec have been involved it is full steam ahead. From what I saw of Broadies juniors in 2005 they are on the skids and the less said about PHills the better.

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Shiek. Spot on Gepps' juniors are improving each year. I coach one of the junior teams and since Neil Rawlings with the help of Andrew Pearce as Sec have been involved it is full steam ahead. From what I saw of Broadies juniors in 2005 they are on the skids and the less said about PHills the better.

Yeah, what age group this year? I've got two kids playing in the NEMFJA for Fitzroy in the u8's & 14's this year, also I got roped into the junior committee.
Except for the bikie contingent hanging at the bar from 11 on a Sunday morn I've yet to see any hassles with the Para Hills mob over the years, can't say the same for a couple of the Gaza coaches though.
I've got a couple of mates whos boys play for Broadys, they unfortunately tried to field teams in every age group, & with a lack of players tried to play a lot of players up a grade, hard at the best of times, but when you come up against a full Walkys side a 20 goal shelacking is mandatory. They did play in the u10's finals this year, & they had two pretty good u8's squads last year, so things may be looking up for the Tiges.

[Footy Chick]

PNU are struggling, just like most, I would suggest the committee would need to get their shit in one sock and work out how to drum up some funds. the biggest problem is getting blokes to pay their subs, it's like getting blood out of a stone.

Juniors as usual are very strong finanacially and in numbers, but might struggle getting u17's together as they either play college footy or are whisked away by norwood or sturt juniors..

[stan]

I think we eneded the season with about $560 in the bank account, we being Salisbury, which for us is sensational.

I'm sure Salisbury North are still the best-off club in the SAAFL. Still unfortunate that they can't buy themselves a Div 1 premiership. That surprises me about Athelstone. They always give us a free beer after games out there and the clubrooms and facilities look pretty sweet as well.

What drugs are u on stan?

Have you ever tried taping 18 blokes in that dog box of a visitors room? Rest of the place is rather nice though.....

Well im not on any drugs but maybe you should ask Pag who made the comment.

[duncs7]

[quote="Sheik Yerbouti"]Except for the bikie contingent hanging at the bar from 11 on a Sunday morn I've yet to see any hassles with the Para Hills mob over the years, can't say the same for a couple of the Gaza coaches though.quote]

Didnt u hear about the meat cleaver weilding PH's U17 player this year????
Or dont u see anything wrong with that?
They are on their downward spiral now, were gonna pump em big time when we play em this year.

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Except for the bikie contingent hanging at the bar from 11 on a Sunday morn I've yet to see any hassles with the Para Hills mob over the years, can't say the same for a couple of the Gaza coaches though.quote]

Didnt u hear about the meat cleaver weilding PH's U17 player this year????
Or dont u see anything wrong with that?They are on their downward spiral now, were gonna pump em big time when we play em this year.

Was referring to what I've SEEN in the junior grades over the past 7 years at Para Hills.
Going by your post you have some hidden agenda with them, thats why there's a ''new post'' button at the top of the page, I'd suggest you use it & start a new topic.

[stan]

Except for the bikie contingent hanging at the bar from 11 on a Sunday morn I've yet to see any hassles with the Para Hills mob over the years, can't say the same for a couple of the Gaza coaches though

Didnt u hear about the meat cleaver weilding PH's U17 player this year????
Or dont u see anything wrong with that?
They are on their downward spiral now, were gonna pump em big time when we play em this year.

Dosent sound like a hidden agenda, hes just saying that perhaps an u17 entering the field with a meat clever is not really....lets say not really football.

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Except for the bikie contingent hanging at the bar from 11 on a Sunday morn I've yet to see any hassles with the Para Hills mob over the years, can't say the same for a couple of the Gaza coaches though

Didnt u hear about the meat cleaver weilding PH's U17 player this year????
They are on their downward spiral now, .

Dosent sound like a hidden agenda, hes just saying that perhaps an u17 entering the field with a meat clever is not really....lets say not really football.

Just responding to the ''Or dont u see anything wrong with that?'' quip Stan. My original reply was discussing some of the junior clubs in the NEMJFA, Dunks came bounding up the pitch with a direct swing aimed at me (for some reason) that I'd approve of a player yielding a weapon at a junior football match,Then followed on with ''were gonna pump em big time when we play em this year'' which seemed to me that he has a bit of an issue Para Hills on the playing field.
So in the vibe of the thread I suggested that a new posting on the subject may be an idea.
Just as a reminder I've yet to see any problems with the Para Hills juniors over the past 7 years as an opposition parent/official. Had'nt even thought of or remembered the meat clever incedent at the time. IMO the u17's are more likely to be looked after by the senior commitees/coaches than the junior caretakers.

[BM]

Couple of points Shiek. No finals in the under 10's comp and when we played Broadies they had 10 players and had to use a couple of ours so we could play something that apprarently was the norm for broadies in the u10's last year. I too have had no problem personally with P / Hills other than their u10' coach trying to dominate the 14 y o umpire. The cleaver incident was against Gepps and to be fair to PHills the guy had just lobbed their from Kilburn. However in their u13's v Hope Valley one of the PHills boys brought a bike chain onto the ground after being sent off and had to be locked in the changerooms until cooler heads prevailed.

[blublurag]

PNU are struggling, just like most, .................the biggest problem is getting blokes to pay their subs, it's like getting blood out of a stone.

We collect subs as a weekly match fee. You only pay if you play. The players seem to find it easier to pay weekly than in a lump sum. They pay it weekly to the team manager who passes it on to the Treasurer weekly. It includes payment for the after game softies and beer (changerooms).

Only pain is there isn't that lump sum up front at the beginning of the year. Still, if they aren't paying, that isn't there anyway.

Just an idea.

[Pag]

I think we eneded the season with about $560 in the bank account, we being Salisbury, which for us is sensational.

I'm sure Salisbury North are still the best-off club in the SAAFL. Still unfortunate that they can't buy themselves a Div 1 premiership. That surprises me about Athelstone. They always give us a free beer after games out there and the clubrooms and facilities look pretty sweet as well.

What drugs are u on stan?

Have you ever tried taping 18 blokes in that dog box of a visitors room? Rest of the place is rather nice though.....

I didn't mean the changerooms. I've used them 3 or 4 times when playing up there and it's not much fun. Just like Portland. When I say facilities, I mean the clubroom, bistro and pokie room. Sorry for any misunderstanding there.

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Couple of points Shiek. No finals in the under 10's comp and when we played Broadies they had 10 players and had to use a couple of ours so we could play something that apprarently was the norm for broadies in the u10's last year. I too have had no problem personally with P / Hills other than their u10' coach trying to dominate the 14 y o umpire. The cleaver incident was against Gepps and to be fair to PHills the guy had just lobbed their from Kilburn. However in their u13's v Hope Valley one of the PHills boys brought a bike chain onto the ground after being sent off and had to be locked in the changerooms until cooler heads prevailed.

Correct, must have been the 11's, they played their final at Sam Hunt Reserve last year.
I've also seen a couple of the young umps (red shirts?) cop harrasment from coaches, we usually remind them that their in charge & can tell the coach/parent/whoever to stick it. Hard job though, makes you wonder if it's worth the $25 to take the bullshit.
Did'nt hear about the bike chain incident, which is strange cause my eldest played in that age group & that sort of stuff usually gets around pretty quickly. Have seen some very over the top coaches/parents antics from the so called ''Stronger'' teams over the years, including one parent who carries around a lap top to take his sons statistics, takes him aside at each quarter, &, if the Fathers ''goal'' that he has set is'nt achieved the son is punished. You'd think the coaching staff would intervene, but the kids a star & in this particular club ''Premierships are all that matter''.

[Wedgie]

Crikey, C7 shoud make a new drama based on the happenings of junior footy out that side of town.
Sounds like it would classics like Prisoner to shame!

[barbs]

Other than the ex league players has anyone else been paid at Edwardstown? And if they have recruited Herbert do you expect to be paid next year? P.S. Can Kym Cobbs brother play?

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Crikey, C7 shoud make a new drama based on the happenings of junior footy out that side of town.
Sounds like it would classics like Prisoner to shame!

Would outrate Big Brother as a reality program, until the opposition channel bought out ''Junior Soccer Parents''

Gotta love the episode in series 5 of the Sopranos where Janice is watching her stepdaughter play in a u11's soccer game & gets in a full blown brawl with a Mother of the opposing team, classic stuff.

In all seriousness though, we all get pretty involved in our kids sports, any code or age group. As BM would (I would think) agree, 95% of the particapants are in it for the enjoyment & fun (watch an u6's game)the kids get out of it. The issues raised in some of the other posts are few & far between, but do tend to stand out.