HFL Division 2 (Country)

[FlyingHigh]

the hfl proposal will see the following teams in div 2:
• 2 x teams from current central division
• birdwood
• echunga
• meadows
• kanagarilla
• kersbrook (who will need to find a U13 team)
• nairne

all other clubs (gums, maccy, seadan, cally) will be in div 3. to be eligible to go to div 2, they'll need to be able to commit to five teams on match-day.

Kersbrook do have a U13 team. You can not just make div 2 clubs that can produce all 3 juniour sides otherwise clubs like Uraidla (dominate div 1) Kersbrook (who have missed finals footy twice over the past 25 years) and Torrens Valley(another div 1 club who dominated div 2 when in it) who struggle to put 3 junior sides on the park could find themselves playing in the 3rd div

sorry, the reference to no under 13 team should be next to kangarilla, not kersbrook.

i disagree with you second point. it should be a 100% enforceable pre-requisite that div 2 teams have all three junior sides. the clubs you mention (uraidla, tv and kersbrook) can all find plenty of money to pay players, and need to spend some of this cash on promoting their club and attacting and retaining junior.
the restructuring of the competition into 3 diivisions is about much more than just eliminating the cally 50 goal blowouts. its about ensuring that all div1 and div2 teams have 5 games on the one day, and not the scenario that is happening in country div in 2012.

Just wondering what the age limits are for the three junior sides - is it u/13, 15 and 17.5? - those age groups are farily close together, especially for the smaller populations of Hills Country towns. Wondering whether going back to U/14 and U/17 or 17.5, and then have an U/10 or 11 Auskick or minileague, like many other country comps do, fits better, or does the association already run an Auskick?

[bailey39]

Surely milang would be factored in. So many people working do hard for that club they'd deserve a chance. How many kids are there in milang mate? And where do they go to play their football?

Cheers b39. Milang is a growing town with plenty of kids and part of our near-future plan is to field a junior side, probably under 13s at this stage. Some of our kids play at Langhorne Creek or Strathalbyn but want to play for us when juniors happen. We've had quite a few kids train with us over the years and as soon as they're big enough to ride the bumps, we play them in 'C's. They're well looked after by umpires and opposition players as a rule. We chose our Captain last night and he played his first "A" Grade game with us as a 14 year old when we were in Country Div in 2001. Last year we played 4 kids under 18 every week and one won Best and Fairest.

Thats great to hear mate. me and my mates always said when they folded that if they ever came back with an A grade we would play for them (as we were only 12-13 when they folded and we used to go watch your A grade each week)

[Kickittometoo]

Surely milang would be factored in. So many people working do hard for that club they'd deserve a chance. How many kids are there in milang mate? And where do they go to play their football?

Cheers b39. Milang is a growing town with plenty of kids and part of our near-future plan is to field a junior side, probably under 13s at this stage. Some of our kids play at Langhorne Creek or Strathalbyn but want to play for us when juniors happen. We've had quite a few kids train with us over the years and as soon as they're big enough to ride the bumps, we play them in 'C's. They're well looked after by umpires and opposition players as a rule. We chose our Captain last night and he played his first "A" Grade game with us as a 14 year old when we were in Country Div in 2001. Last year we played 4 kids under 18 every week and one won Best and Fairest.

Thats great to hear mate. me and my mates always said when they folded that if they ever came back with an A grade we would play for them (as we were only 12-13 when they folded and we used to go watch your A grade each week)

WELL BUGGER ME, AT LAST A CLUB THATS GOT IT RIGHT.

[MLWALKER]

the hfl proposal will see the following teams in div 2:
• 2 x teams from current central division
• birdwood
• echunga
• meadows
• kanagarilla
• kersbrook (who will need to find a U13 team)
• nairne

all other clubs (gums, maccy, seadan, cally) will be in div 3. to be eligible to go to div 2, they'll need to be able to commit to five teams on match-day.

Kersbrook do have a U13 team. You can not just make div 2 clubs that can produce all 3 juniour sides otherwise clubs like Uraidla (dominate div 1) Kersbrook (who have missed finals footy twice over the past 25 years) and Torrens Valley(another div 1 club who dominated div 2 when in it) who struggle to put 3 junior sides on the park could find themselves playing in the 3rd div

sorry, the reference to no under 13 team should be next to kangarilla, not kersbrook.

i disagree with you second point. it should be a 100% enforceable pre-requisite that div 2 teams have all three junior sides. the clubs you mention (uraidla, tv and kersbrook) can all find plenty of money to pay players, and need to spend some of this cash on promoting their club and attacting and retaining junior.
the restructuring of the competition into 3 diivisions is about much more than just eliminating the cally 50 goal blowouts. its about ensuring that all div1 and div2 teams have 5 games on the one day, and not the scenario that is happening in country div in 2012.

Just wondering what the age limits are for the three junior sides - is it u/13, 15 and 17.5? - those age groups are farily close together, especially for the smaller populations of Hills Country towns. Wondering whether going back to U/14 and U/17 or 17.5, and then have an U/10 or 11 Auskick or minileague, like many other country comps do, fits better, or does the association already run an Auskick?

Agree that it needs to go back to 2 junior grades. RMFL still do this, and every club fields every grade each week, and their town sizes are comparable. We do however already have a very strong minileague. U8, U9, U10 & U11, some ages with several divisions. The U8 / U9 Carnival day alone consisted of 29 teams.

[citycoaster17]

dont know much about callington except what i read but i would love to know where they get the money from to pay the players
a rough est is around $5000 a week,and thats a rough est based on the guys we had training with us that got up and left for the money they told us
have they done this before and did they actually pay
if thats the case would love to know what a coach gets

Kanmantoo mines might be putting some money in, but really its a waste of money.

Only 5k per year I believe old fullback

[PPLions]

Meadows 45 point winners over Gums in a bit of an upset

[Sniper]

Heard that Birdwood over Maccy by 5 gls in what would appear to be a good result for the Country Div footy. Looking forward to forum posters who were at the game providing a further insight into where Maccy are at (ie can Maccy sustain this performance or did Birdwood have a case of bird flu in the ol hen house ? ).

[old fullback]

Champ wrote:
Maybe the committee needs to do right by the playing group and ask them what they want to do as I think the opportunity to win a C'Grade Premiership would be high on most of their agenda's.

The Committee HAVE done exactly that. We put it to the players, but it was them that insisted on staying where we are, and said they didnt want to play C Grade. The other issue is our Juniors. While yes, at the moment we only have one team, most of these boys have played together as a single team since they were 7 years old, and there is some real talent there. If we had moved to C Grade comp, we lose our Juniors, which means we lose their parents who make up the biggest part of our club volunteers. So basically, if we did move, there would be no club left to move.

dee man wrote:
dont know much about callington except what i read but i would love to know where they get the money from to pay the players
a rough est is around $5000 a week,and thats a rough est based on the guys we had training with us that got up and left for the money they told us
have they done this before and did they actually pay
if thats the case would love to know what a coach gets

Not sure where this info is coming from, but it is definitely not correct! We would LOVE to have $5k to spend each week, we certainly would be in a much better position if we did! That is one of the biggest problems we have, we simply arent in the financial position to keep up. What we pay out in total, is what other Country clubs pay for only 2 people.

The Sorce wrote:
Looks like Callington/United Eagles suprised everyone and actually put two teams on the park, and looks like over 19 players in both teams (however looks like some double ups) Anyone at the Game? Was it a great way to get the 2012 Season off to a flying start????? Bet there would have been some record Gate takings........

Yes we did have to double up with 8 B Grade players, which really hurt us. We had 6 A Graders out for R1 who were away on their Cricket Trip, and another 3 that had another prior commitment. I believe they are all (or most) back this week. We also had another heap of new faces out tonight, with hopefully a few more on Thursday, so hopefully looking a little more positive. One being a 70 goal RMFL U17/A Grader last year.

Is the commitee running the Cally FC or is it a handfull of players,of course the players want to stay in country grade,but the commitee should make a decision not the players, only lost by 30 odd goals to Kersbrook yesterday,bet there was a big party at Cally last nite.

[ftandsq]

Is the commitee running the Cally FC or is it a handfull of players,of course the players want to stay in country grade,but the commitee should make a decision not the players, only lost by 30 odd goals to Kersbrook yesterday,bet there was a big party at Cally last nite. [/quote]

helps when they play players unregistered, who are having a bye in other leagues! digraceful situation and Callington should just be thrown out.

[Droversdog]

Is the commitee running the Cally FC or is it a handfull of players,of course the players want to stay in country grade,but the commitee should make a decision not the players, only lost by 30 odd goals to Kersbrook yesterday,bet there was a big party at Cally last nite.

helps when they play players unregistered, who are having a bye in other leagues! digraceful situation and Callington should just be thrown out.[/quote]

I am local and have not bothered to comment about United Eagles for many months. I'm grateful that they removed the word Callington from their name, as they're not a club where I'd want any of my sons to play now, and everything about them embarasses me. They have been a very poor reflection on the town since since decent administrators left in 2002, and the dollars starting flowing. And unregistered players DID play on Saturday.

[Checksider]

Is the commitee running the Cally FC or is it a handfull of players,of course the players want to stay in country grade,but the commitee should make a decision not the players, only lost by 30 odd goals to Kersbrook yesterday,bet there was a big party at Cally last nite.

helps when they play players unregistered, who are having a bye in other leagues! digraceful situation and Callington should just be thrown out.

I am local and have not bothered to comment about United Eagles for many months. I'm grateful that they removed the word Callington from their name, as they're not a club where I'd want any of my sons to play now, and everything about them embarasses me. They have been a very poor reflection on the town since since decent administrators left in 2002, and the dollars starting flowing. And unregistered players DID play on Saturday.[/quote]

Well they say if u arent part of thr solution u r part of the problem!

[Droversdog]

Is the commitee running the Cally FC or is it a handfull of players,of course the players want to stay in country grade,but the commitee should make a decision not the players, only lost by 30 odd goals to Kersbrook yesterday,bet there was a big party at Cally last nite.

helps when they play players unregistered, who are having a bye in other leagues! digraceful situation and Callington should just be thrown out.

I am local and have not bothered to comment about United Eagles for many months. I'm grateful that they removed the word Callington from their name, as they're not a club where I'd want any of my sons to play now, and everything about them embarasses me. They have been a very poor reflection on the town since since decent administrators left in 2002, and the dollars starting flowing. And unregistered players DID play on Saturday.

Well they say if u arent part of thr solution u r part of the problem![/quote]

All due respect checksider, but I tried to be part of the solution by encouraging all my boys to play and being goal umpire, dogsbody, anything. The missus baked cakes, washed jumpers, cooked chips. Anyone who tried to make it a family club was howled down. Committee members who weren't prepared to pay players were got rid of and that's when the rot set in. All my lads play elsewhere. I just couldn't resist commenting this time as I know for a fact unregistered players were out there yesterday. I rest my case.

[The Crumber]

Is the commitee running the Cally FC or is it a handfull of players,of course the players want to stay in country grade,but the commitee should make a decision not the players, only lost by 30 odd goals to Kersbrook yesterday,bet there was a big party at Cally last nite.

helps when they play players unregistered, who are having a bye in other leagues! digraceful situation and Callington should just be thrown out.

I am local and have not bothered to comment about United Eagles for many months. I'm grateful that they removed the word Callington from their name, as they're not a club where I'd want any of my sons to play now, and everything about them embarasses me. They have been a very poor reflection on the town since since decent administrators left in 2002, and the dollars starting flowing. And unregistered players DID play on Saturday.

Well they say if u arent part of thr solution u r part of the problem!

All due respect checksider, but I tried to be part of the solution by encouraging all my boys to play and being goal umpire, dogsbody, anything. The missus baked cakes, washed jumpers, cooked chips. Anyone who tried to make it a family club was howled down. Committee members who weren't prepared to pay players were got rid of and that's when the rot set in. All my lads play elsewhere. I just couldn't resist commenting this time as I know for a fact unregistered players were out there yesterday. I rest my case.[/quote]

I know nothing about the unregistered player(s) issues of yesterday, but nothing surprises me about the Eagles. Droversdog, you're probably representative of dozens of people who tried to make the club work in better days. Write it down to experience, and I hope your kids and family are enjoying footy elsewhere.

[Champ]

Eagles are a debacle and must be put down or atleast supply a business plan to the lague about how they will improve both on and off the field. I understand that they have played unregistered players in each game theyve played this season.

[Champ]

Heard that Birdwood over Maccy by 5 gls in what would appear to be a good result for the Country Div footy. Looking forward to forum posters who were at the game providing a further insight into where Maccy are at (ie can Maccy sustain this performance or did Birdwood have a case of bird flu in the ol hen house ? ).

This looks like a shock result however looking at Maccy's team list they have some handy footballers... For example I think that Micheal Daniele is a former mail medal winner with kangarilla and last may have played in the barossa with angaston?

[the big fella]

Conditions would have suited Maccy..they have no pace to speak off and like a bog..

birdwood much better once it fines up!

[Champ]

Conditions would have suited Maccy..they have no pace to speak off and like a bog..

birdwood much better once it fines up!

knowing very little about either side (other than sporting pulse) I'd say the conditions in the SA Hills are going to get worse before they get better?

[Justquietly]

the hfl proposal will see the following teams in div 2:
• 2 x teams from current central division
• birdwood
• echunga
• meadows
• kanagarilla
• kersbrook (who will need to find a U13 team)
• nairne

all other clubs (gums, maccy, seadan, cally) will be in div 3. to be eligible to go to div 2, they'll need to be able to commit to five teams on match-day.

Good luck getting 2 down from Central, who would they be with the current state of play?

[bandar]

Heard that Birdwood over Maccy by 5 gls in what would appear to be a good result for the Country Div footy. Looking forward to forum posters who were at the game providing a further insight into where Maccy are at (ie can Maccy sustain this performance or did Birdwood have a case of bird flu in the ol hen house ? ).

This looks like a shock result however looking at Maccy's team list they have some handy footballers... For example I think that Micheal Daniele is a former mail medal winner with kangarilla and last may have played in the barossa with angaston?

Jaran Blethyn is a very well credentialled player from the SAAFL won the BOG medal in a DIV 1 GF (albeit in 2000).
For the trivia buffs he is the son of Essendon legend Geoff.

[false]

Heard that Birdwood over Maccy by 5 gls in what would appear to be a good result for the Country Div footy. Looking forward to forum posters who were at the game providing a further insight into where Maccy are at (ie can Maccy sustain this performance or did Birdwood have a case of bird flu in the ol hen house ? ).

wasn't at the game but from what i hear a pretty hard slog. Maccy a physically bigger side and the weather slowed us down. We also lost 2 players to probably season ending injuries in the first 5 minutes and another down in the 3rd.