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Re: Eagles Going, Going, Almost Gone

Postby PhilH » Thu Apr 26, 2012 11:32 am

If anyone though the Eagles was extremely poor yesterday ... what were they against North last Saturday?
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Re: Eagles Going, Going, Almost Gone

Postby whufc » Thu Apr 26, 2012 11:34 am

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whufc wrote:I dont know if it was a much better performance though.

1 they were on their home deck and secondly being ANZAC Day you would expect a stronger performance.

With both teams coming off a 4 day break the game was never going to be a high scoring blowout.

Central dominated most of the game especially in the first 20 minutes of each quarter except the last which suggests to me it was only the fact that the Eagles were fitter/fresher that kept them in the game not their actual performance.They were pretty ordinary again.

Central were OK our forward entries struggled again but we had enough to get a winning score.

Ill never rule the Eagles out until its mathatically not possible but they were extremly poor again yesterday and need a huge turnaround just to make the 5!


I don't agree. Eagles played much better than in previous weeks. Take out the 2nd quarter and the scorline reads Eagles 11.3.69 to Centrals 7.4.46.
Eagles had a great first and last quarter. Apart from the 2nd quarter and the first 10 mins of the 3rd quarter the Eagles were the better team. The worry is that centrals scored far too freely in those periods. The Eags lacked a dominant forward or someone with a presence across half forward, thus they were not going forward with any confidence and as a result were looking to use the handball and run it up rather than hitting blokes up with a kick. Signs were a hell of a lot better, but unless they step it up another notch and beat south they may as well have lost by 15 goals yesterday because it won't matter. Goldsworthy, Jarrad were the standouts for mine. Collier was very good for the dogs.

How you can conclude that they were extremely poor yesterday is beyond me :? :?


They had a 3 goal breeze and only went in 2 goals up, maybe just maybe par but definatly not good.
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Re: Eagles Going, Going, Almost Gone

Postby whufc » Thu Apr 26, 2012 11:35 am

PhilH wrote:If anyone though the Eagles was extremely poor yesterday ... what were they against North last Saturday?


Laughable, embarrasing, pathetic etc etc.
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Re: Eagles Going, Going, Almost Gone

Postby Swamp Donkey » Thu Apr 26, 2012 11:41 am

whufc wrote:
Swamp Donkey wrote:
whufc wrote:I dont know if it was a much better performance though.

1 they were on their home deck and secondly being ANZAC Day you would expect a stronger performance.

With both teams coming off a 4 day break the game was never going to be a high scoring blowout.

Central dominated most of the game especially in the first 20 minutes of each quarter except the last which suggests to me it was only the fact that the Eagles were fitter/fresher that kept them in the game not their actual performance.They were pretty ordinary again.

Central were OK our forward entries struggled again but we had enough to get a winning score.

Ill never rule the Eagles out until its mathatically not possible but they were extremly poor again yesterday and need a huge turnaround just to make the 5!


I don't agree. Eagles played much better than in previous weeks. Take out the 2nd quarter and the scorline reads Eagles 11.3.69 to Centrals 7.4.46.
Eagles had a great first and last quarter. Apart from the 2nd quarter and the first 10 mins of the 3rd quarter the Eagles were the better team. The worry is that centrals scored far too freely in those periods. The Eags lacked a dominant forward or someone with a presence across half forward, thus they were not going forward with any confidence and as a result were looking to use the handball and run it up rather than hitting blokes up with a kick. Signs were a hell of a lot better, but unless they step it up another notch and beat south they may as well have lost by 15 goals yesterday because it won't matter. Goldsworthy, Jarrad were the standouts for mine. Collier was very good for the dogs.

How you can conclude that they were extremely poor yesterday is beyond me :? :?


They had a 3 goal breeze and only went in 2 goals up, maybe just maybe par but definatly not good.


Were you disappointed at qtr time yesterday?
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Re: Eagles Going, Going, Almost Gone

Postby Big Phil » Thu Apr 26, 2012 11:43 am

whufc wrote:
PhilH wrote:If anyone though the Eagles was extremely poor yesterday ... what were they against North last Saturday?


Laughable, embarrasing, pathetic etc etc.


Wouldn't go as far to say they were that bad yesterday whufc. They were competitive, except maybe that 2nd term, and had much more improvement from the week before against North.
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Re: Eagles Going, Going, Almost Gone

Postby cennals05 » Thu Apr 26, 2012 11:45 am

Swamp Donkey wrote:
I don't agree. Eagles played much better than in previous weeks. Take out the 2nd quarter and the scorline reads Eagles 11.3.69 to Centrals 7.4.46.Eagles had a great first and last quarter. Apart from the 2nd quarter and the first 10 mins of the 3rd quarter the Eagles were the better team. The worry is that centrals scored far too freely in those periods. The Eags lacked a dominant forward or someone with a presence across half forward, thus they were not going forward with any confidence and as a result were looking to use the handball and run it up rather than hitting blokes up with a kick. Signs were a hell of a lot better, but unless they step it up another notch and beat south they may as well have lost by 15 goals yesterday because it won't matter. Goldsworthy, Jarrad were the standouts for mine. Collier was very good for the dogs.

How you can conclude that they were extremely poor yesterday is beyond me :? :?


We don't have to conclude it, you just have with your stats. You beat us in 3 quarters and still lost. Which means 1 quarter of our best is better than 3 quarters of yours.
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Re: Eagles Going, Going, Almost Gone

Postby Swamp Donkey » Thu Apr 26, 2012 11:47 am

cennals05 wrote:
Swamp Donkey wrote:
I don't agree. Eagles played much better than in previous weeks. Take out the 2nd quarter and the scorline reads Eagles 11.3.69 to Centrals 7.4.46.Eagles had a great first and last quarter. Apart from the 2nd quarter and the first 10 mins of the 3rd quarter the Eagles were the better team. The worry is that centrals scored far too freely in those periods. The Eags lacked a dominant forward or someone with a presence across half forward, thus they were not going forward with any confidence and as a result were looking to use the handball and run it up rather than hitting blokes up with a kick. Signs were a hell of a lot better, but unless they step it up another notch and beat south they may as well have lost by 15 goals yesterday because it won't matter. Goldsworthy, Jarrad were the standouts for mine. Collier was very good for the dogs.

How you can conclude that they were extremely poor yesterday is beyond me :? :?


We don't have to conclude it, you just have with your stats. You beat us in 3 quarters and still lost. Which means 1 quarter of our best is better than 3 quarters of yours.


If you can maintain your attention span for a little longer and read on you'll see that I mentioned that this was a worry.
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Re: Eagles Going, Going, Almost Gone

Postby whufc » Thu Apr 26, 2012 11:51 am

Big Phil wrote:
whufc wrote:
PhilH wrote:If anyone though the Eagles was extremely poor yesterday ... what were they against North last Saturday?


Laughable, embarrasing, pathetic etc etc.


Wouldn't go as far to say they were that bad yesterday whufc. They were competitive, except maybe that 2nd term, and had much more improvement from the week before against North.


He was asking what they were against North!
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Re: Eagles Going, Going, Almost Gone

Postby whufc » Thu Apr 26, 2012 11:52 am

Swamp Donkey wrote:
whufc wrote:
Swamp Donkey wrote:
whufc wrote:I dont know if it was a much better performance though.

1 they were on their home deck and secondly being ANZAC Day you would expect a stronger performance.

With both teams coming off a 4 day break the game was never going to be a high scoring blowout.

Central dominated most of the game especially in the first 20 minutes of each quarter except the last which suggests to me it was only the fact that the Eagles were fitter/fresher that kept them in the game not their actual performance.They were pretty ordinary again.

Central were OK our forward entries struggled again but we had enough to get a winning score.

Ill never rule the Eagles out until its mathatically not possible but they were extremly poor again yesterday and need a huge turnaround just to make the 5!


I don't agree. Eagles played much better than in previous weeks. Take out the 2nd quarter and the scorline reads Eagles 11.3.69 to Centrals 7.4.46.
Eagles had a great first and last quarter. Apart from the 2nd quarter and the first 10 mins of the 3rd quarter the Eagles were the better team. The worry is that centrals scored far too freely in those periods. The Eags lacked a dominant forward or someone with a presence across half forward, thus they were not going forward with any confidence and as a result were looking to use the handball and run it up rather than hitting blokes up with a kick. Signs were a hell of a lot better, but unless they step it up another notch and beat south they may as well have lost by 15 goals yesterday because it won't matter. Goldsworthy, Jarrad were the standouts for mine. Collier was very good for the dogs.

How you can conclude that they were extremely poor yesterday is beyond me :? :?


They had a 3 goal breeze and only went in 2 goals up, maybe just maybe par but definatly not good.


Were you disappointed at qtr time yesterday?


Honestly extremly happy, told bulldogs2004 i thought we had a real good quarter, he agreed as well. You know when Cica is popping them from outside 50 without alot of effort the breez is very strong.
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Re: Eagles Going, Going, Almost Gone

Postby Aerie » Thu Apr 26, 2012 2:26 pm

Couldn't make it yesterday but good to see it wasn't another blow out. After averaging 11 goal losses a 6 point loss is definitely an improvement. If they drop either of next two games it is season over.
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Re: Eagles Going, Going, Almost Gone

Postby bulldogproud2 » Thu Apr 26, 2012 7:04 pm

Swamp Donkey wrote:
whufc wrote:I dont know if it was a much better performance though.

1 they were on their home deck and secondly being ANZAC Day you would expect a stronger performance.

With both teams coming off a 4 day break the game was never going to be a high scoring blowout.

Central dominated most of the game especially in the first 20 minutes of each quarter except the last which suggests to me it was only the fact that the Eagles were fitter/fresher that kept them in the game not their actual performance.They were pretty ordinary again.

Central were OK our forward entries struggled again but we had enough to get a winning score.

Ill never rule the Eagles out until its mathatically not possible but they were extremly poor again yesterday and need a huge turnaround just to make the 5!


I don't agree. Eagles played much better than in previous weeks. Take out the 2nd quarter and the scorline reads Eagles 11.3.69 to Centrals 7.4.46.
Eagles had a great first and last quarter. Apart from the 2nd quarter and the first 10 mins of the 3rd quarter the Eagles were the better team. The worry is that centrals scored far too freely in those periods. The Eags lacked a dominant forward or someone with a presence across half forward, thus they were not going forward with any confidence and as a result were looking to use the handball and run it up rather than hitting blokes up with a kick. Signs were a hell of a lot better, but unless they step it up another notch and beat south they may as well have lost by 15 goals yesterday because it won't matter. Goldsworthy, Jarrad were the standouts for mine. Collier was very good for the dogs.

How you can conclude that they were extremely poor yesterday is beyond me :? :?


Yes, but that does include two quarters with the breeze against one quarter with a much lighter breeze as it had dropped considerably by then. With a four goal breeze in those quarters, the Eagles should have actually outscored Central by about six goals rather than four over these three quarters.
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Re: Eagles Going, Going, Almost Gone

Postby Spargo » Thu Apr 26, 2012 8:37 pm

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Grahaml wrote:But, win the next 5 and the world looks different. Parry is sorely missed.


South, Sturt, West, Glenelg & North for the next five.

Not beyond the realms of possibility for the Eagles to win all of those five


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Re: Eagles Going, Going, Almost Gone

Postby Grahaml » Thu Apr 26, 2012 11:18 pm

bulldogproud2 wrote:Yes, but that does include two quarters with the breeze against one quarter with a much lighter breeze as it had dropped considerably by then. With a four goal breeze in those quarters, the Eagles should have actually outscored Central by about six goals rather than four over these three quarters.
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Not sure where this massive has suddenly wind come from, but given it was mostly across the ground no way was it worth 4 goals. And it wasn't blowing a gale. At best, maybe it was worth a goal to that end.
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Re: Eagles Going, Going, Almost Gone

Postby whufc » Thu Apr 26, 2012 11:53 pm

Grahaml wrote:
bulldogproud2 wrote:Yes, but that does include two quarters with the breeze against one quarter with a much lighter breeze as it had dropped considerably by then. With a four goal breeze in those quarters, the Eagles should have actually outscored Central by about six goals rather than four over these three quarters.
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Not sure where this massive has suddenly wind come from, but given it was mostly across the ground no way was it worth 4 goals. And it wasn't blowing a gale. At best, maybe it was worth a goal to that end.


I think more than a goal judging by the ease Ciccalella popped one from outside 50 which carried the distance easily, unless his long distance kicking has improved with age.
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Re: Eagles Going, Going, Almost Gone

Postby topsywaldron » Fri Apr 27, 2012 12:36 am

Each successive Eagles loss makes last years GF result even harder to fathom.

Still pretty funny though.
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Re: Eagles Going, Going, Almost Gone

Postby Grahaml » Fri Apr 27, 2012 1:48 am

whufc wrote:
Grahaml wrote:
bulldogproud2 wrote:Yes, but that does include two quarters with the breeze against one quarter with a much lighter breeze as it had dropped considerably by then. With a four goal breeze in those quarters, the Eagles should have actually outscored Central by about six goals rather than four over these three quarters.
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Not sure where this massive has suddenly wind come from, but given it was mostly across the ground no way was it worth 4 goals. And it wasn't blowing a gale. At best, maybe it was worth a goal to that end.


I think more than a goal judging by the ease Ciccalella popped one from outside 50 which carried the distance easily, unless his long distance kicking has improved with age.


The way he connected on it I reckon he'd have made the distance with no wind.
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Re: Eagles Going, Going, Almost Gone

Postby Big Phil » Fri Apr 27, 2012 1:53 am

topsywaldron wrote:Each successive Eagles loss makes last years GF result even harder to fathom.

Still pretty funny though.


Eagles losses or last year's GF?
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Re: Eagles Going, Going, Almost Gone

Postby StrayDog » Fri Apr 27, 2012 1:57 am

Grahaml wrote:
bulldogproud2 wrote:Yes, but that does include two quarters with the breeze against one quarter with a much lighter breeze as it had dropped considerably by then. With a four goal breeze in those quarters, the Eagles should have actually outscored Central by about six goals rather than four over these three quarters.
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Not sure where this massive has suddenly wind come from, but given it was mostly across the ground no way was it worth 4 goals. And it wasn't blowing a gale. At best, maybe it was worth a goal to that end.



Wind data based on Adelaide Airport observations at http://www.bom.gov.au/products/IDS60901/IDS60901.94672.shtml
Code: Select all
               Direction    Speed (km/h)    Gust (km/h)    Period / Elapsed Time (Approx)
                                                                         
                                                                                    Start:2:40
25/02:30pm        SSW            24             32                       
25/03:00pm         SW            20             30            1st Quarter / 20 minutes
25/03:30pm        SSW            24             30            2nd Quarter / 15 minutes
25/04:00pm        SSW            17             22              Half Time / 15 minutes
25/04:30pm         SW            17             28            3rd Quarter / 25 minutes
25/05:00pm        SSW            19             28            4th Quarter / 20 minutes
25/05:30pm        SSW            19             28

Wind favoured the Eagles kicking to the northern end in the odd quarters, Centrals in the evens. Overall, probably favoured Centrals (if anyone) going by those samples.

GoogleEarth shows that the ground runs within a few degrees anticlockwise of North - South.

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Re: Eagles Going, Going, Almost Gone

Postby whufc » Fri Apr 27, 2012 11:07 am

topsywaldron wrote:Each successive Eagles loss makes last years GF result even harder to fathom.

Still pretty funny though.


Almost as funny as a straight sets exit hey ;)
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Re: Eagles Going, Going, Almost Gone

Postby story of my life » Fri Apr 27, 2012 12:36 pm

whufc wrote:
topsywaldron wrote:Each successive Eagles loss makes last years GF result even harder to fathom.

Still pretty funny though.


Almost as funny as a straight sets exit hey ;)


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