Match Review Panel

[HH3]

Hang on a cotton picking minute...

So Raines got done because of the medical report...but that couldnt possibly have said he was knocked out, because he kept playing....

What did the medical report say? Jaw contains traces of shattered glass??

If he was cleared to continue, he couldnt of had a head injury from the punch...

[Robran]

Raines was lucky not to get 6 weeks for the Selwood hit. Can't believe Selwood's hit was even looked at.

Im with u on this one i think the powers to be have got this so wrong the only thing i do disagree with is selwood still should have got 1 or 2 he still made contact to raines face and you just cant do it. Raines is one lucky bugger im dumb founded that he got what he got its a joke both of his incidents on selwood were worthy of suspension, i would of thought 6 to 7 wks would have been sufficent who gives a s#it about his good record, what he done was not in the spirit of the game, and should have been dealt with a lot harsher...

[Bum Crack]

I'm just taking the piss boys. was waiting for a few bites. Both should have got games but happy Selwood didn't as he is in my supercoach team

[Booney]

Hang on a cotton picking minute...

So Raines got done because of the medical report...but that couldnt possibly have said he was knocked out, because he kept playing....

What did the medical report say? Jaw contains traces of shattered glass??

If he was cleared to continue, he couldnt of had a head injury from the punch...

Or he was concussed in a seperate incident.

[The Sleeping Giant]

Raines was lucky not to get 6 weeks for the Selwood hit. Can't believe Selwood's hit was even looked at.

Im with u on this one i think the powers to be have got this so wrong the only thing i do disagree with is selwood still should have got 1 or 2 he still made contact to raines face and you just cant do it. Raines is one lucky bugger im dumb founded that he got what he got its a joke both of his incidents on selwood were worthy of suspension, i would of thought 6 to 7 wks would have been sufficent who gives a s#it about his good record, what he done was not in the spirit of the game, and should have been dealt with a lot harsher...

Raines got 3 weeks not 1. Reduced for good record and early plea.

[The Sleeping Giant]

Raines was lucky not to get 6 weeks for the Selwood hit. Can't believe Selwood's hit was even looked at.

Raines should have got 6, but Selwood not even looked at? Selwood threw the first one! Went down like a sack of shit though, did Selwood.

I didnt watch the game, but did Selwood play the rest of the game?

He didn't play after the incident. Sat on the pine looking very sheepish.

[LMA]

Full swing I can't believe people are accepting the softness of the game now. Here we have an elite midfielder who is as hard as nails, puts his head on the line week in week out, enters the contest without fear. He gets tagged, scragged, niggled every week by a player who would be lucky to have half his ability and he reacts with what is, well SFA, and people want him rubbed out, probably the same people who think Judd didn't deserve his last Brownlow. People don't watch footy to see a Raines, Baker type.

You say people are soft, but whinge about some legal tactics that teams employ to win footy games.

Selwood isn't as hard as nails. You are getting that confused with courageous.

Raines and Baker have been entertaining in recent years.

How often has a tag or legal tactics as you put it won a game of footy, very rarely I would think otherwise we wouldn't of had midfielders winning the brownlow for the last 10-15 years and if it wins footy games why don't they draft taggers. Not one person in the AFL would have been drafted because they are a good tagger.
In terms of football, courageos = hard IMO and as for Raines and Baker I must of missed that game

Ever heard the term "the best offence is a good defence"?

Im sure there would be cases where an influential player has been shut down by a tagger, and its had a big impact on who won the game. If it had no effect on the game, and there was no incentive for a team to employ tagging tactics, why does it happen?

Im sure most teams have someone they regard as a tagger, that does a job for team when it needs to be done.

Off the top of my head,

North Melbourne - Brady Rawlings
Port - Kane Cornes
Richmond - Jake King
Fremantle - Hayden Ballentyne, Ryan Crowley
Hawthorn - Brad Sewell

Even the mighty Geelong had Ling that did it when needed.

Saying stopping your opponent getting the ball doesnt help win a game of footy makes the whole "man-up" tactic redundant. Who cares about accountabilty, it doesnt win a game of footy. Lets just try and get a kick, worked in under 9s.

There is a big difference in tagging vs defending or manning up HH, and have you watched AFL lately it's very much like under 9's 36 players in one half of the ground, except under 9's is more pure and less manufactured and it's not referred to as a "brand"

[Johno6]

montagna free to play

[LMA]

Good post.

A good tagger is worth their weight in gold. Especially the ones who can stop an opponent and get the ball themselves. Ling and Kirk were prime examples. Employing a hard tag on players like Judd etc works because they don't have a defensive bone in their body.

Has worked very well it seems : 2 Brownlows, 2 Players Association MVP's, 6 x All Australian (1 as Capt) 5 club B & F's and a premiership

[HH3]

I dont think you can blame "zoning" and "the press" on tagging. You'll see tagging in all forms of Aussie Rules Footy.

In my view, tagging is manning up defensively. And theres nothing wrong with a bit of niggle. In recent incidents, it seems the player being tagged is the one losing their cool and doing something stupid.

Everyone has different views of how the game should be played. I personally think taggers play a pretty important role.

Say you were coaching local footy, right. An opposition on-baller was dominating. Just reading the ball well and smashing your midfield, winning clearance after clearance. At a certain point of the game, would you think, "shit, we need to put someone on him"?

[HH3]

Good post.

A good tagger is worth their weight in gold. Especially the ones who can stop an opponent and get the ball themselves. Ling and Kirk were prime examples. Employing a hard tag on players like Judd etc works because they don't have a defensive bone in their body.

Has worked very well it seems : 2 Brownlows, 2 Players Association MVP's, 6 x All Australian (1 as Capt) 5 club B & F's and a premiership

Exactly. I wouldnt want him running around unmarked when my team played him, he'd dominate!

[The Sleeping Giant]

Good post.

A good tagger is worth their weight in gold. Especially the ones who can stop an opponent and get the ball themselves. Ling and Kirk were prime examples. Employing a hard tag on players like Judd etc works because they don't have a defensive bone in their body.

Has worked very well it seems : 2 Brownlows, 2 Players Association MVP's, 6 x All Australian (1 as Capt) 5 club B & F's and a premiership

You forgot ambassador.

A good tagger can shut him down.

[LMA]

Good post.

A good tagger is worth their weight in gold. Especially the ones who can stop an opponent and get the ball themselves. Ling and Kirk were prime examples. Employing a hard tag on players like Judd etc works because they don't have a defensive bone in their body.

Has worked very well it seems : 2 Brownlows, 2 Players Association MVP's, 6 x All Australian (1 as Capt) 5 club B & F's and a premiership

Exactly. I wouldnt want him running around unmarked when my team played him, he'd dominate!

So he hasn't dominated yet, what about gazza then ?

[howzat]

Good post.

A good tagger is worth their weight in gold. Especially the ones who can stop an opponent and get the ball themselves. Ling and Kirk were prime examples. Employing a hard tag on players like Judd etc works because they don't have a defensive bone in their body.

Has worked very well it seems : 2 Brownlows, 2 Players Association MVP's, 6 x All Australian (1 as Capt) 5 club B & F's and a premiership

Exactly. I wouldnt want him running around unmarked when my team played him, he'd dominate!

So he hasn't dominated yet, what about gazza then ?

no judd has only blitzed lol......

[CoverKing]

Hang on a cotton picking minute...

So Raines got done because of the medical report...but that couldnt possibly have said he was knocked out, because he kept playing....

What did the medical report say? Jaw contains traces of shattered glass??

If he was cleared to continue, he couldnt of had a head injury from the punch...

You can play on after being knocked out just not after being concussed! Big difference

[Jim05]

The MRP is a farce, how can Montagna be cited for striking without any evidence?
Magner had a cut above his eye so must have been struck by Montagna, what a joke.

[Johno6]

i think its a joke how a player can get offered 3 weeks but get off....
so the mrp think its serious enough to ban him for 3, but then its not an offence and he gets off.

has to be one or the other.... not both

[RustyCage]

Good post.

A good tagger is worth their weight in gold. Especially the ones who can stop an opponent and get the ball themselves. Ling and Kirk were prime examples. Employing a hard tag on players like Judd etc works because they don't have a defensive bone in their body.

Has worked very well it seems : 2 Brownlows, 2 Players Association MVP's, 6 x All Australian (1 as Capt) 5 club B & F's and a premiership

Exactly. I wouldnt want him running around unmarked when my team played him, he'd dominate!

So he hasn't dominated yet, what about gazza then ?

They have dominated but think about how more they would be dominating of they weren't tagged.

[HH3]

My point exactly

[Johno6]

Hams given 2 weeks for hit on swallow.
He hit hill more than swallow