SAAFL Division 6 & D6R (2012)

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Who will make the Grand Final?

Adelaide University
7
3%
Blackfriars OS
16
7%
Central United
14
6%
Colonel Light Gardens
13
6%
Houghton
7
3%
Ingle Farm
12
5%
Lockleys
18
8%
Mawson Lakes
39
17%
Trinity OS
20
9%
Woodville South
84
37%
 
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Re: SAAFL Division 6 & D6R (2012)

Postby old farmer » Mon May 28, 2012 10:48 pm

Mounty's a multiple B&F winner at both Ingle Farm and TTG. Pretty sure he has Won association medals in div 2 and div 7. Would have played in most grades over the years.All lower grade clubs would have a few mounty's in their team that could play higher but love playing for club with their mates
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Re: SAAFL Division 6 & D6R (2012)

Postby BIG RED CAT » Tue May 29, 2012 7:19 am

Ingle farm Vs Woodville South. Bit of a trip down memory lane for all you old Farmers.I think its the last time the two clubs met(i may be wrong).Ledger Reserve 1994.Woody South on top for most of the day and led by about 7 goals at 3QTR time.Last QTR was all the Farmers and amazingly snatched the lead and the game in the last minute, fairly sure it was big "Ted" Murphy who kicked the winning goal.Other Farmers who played that day were the Clarke brothers,Mount,Craig Kingston,Donald Hearing and a skinny wingman Watto?.Woody South won the return game at Rowe Park in another close one.Any old Farmers remember these games?
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Re: SAAFL Division 6 & D6R (2012)

Postby old farmer » Tue May 29, 2012 9:54 am

Played in that game, but would have been 95 as i was still at Blanchetown Swan Reach in 94. Was it Woody Souths or Woody Districts back then? There would have been 2 Mounts playing, 2 Clarkes, 2 Tuthills. IF won a premiership the year before against Ferrydon Park. Boof Mesecke Played and went on to play 400 games, both Clarkes played over 300 games as well. Good days back then and a verry tight playing group. One of the best games i've played in, not every day you come back from 7 down to get up on the siren.
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Re: SAAFL Division 6 & D6R (2012)

Postby bloozebrother » Tue May 29, 2012 10:20 am

Yank Man wrote:
Jetters wrote:
old farmer wrote:I'm not suggesting there is anything wrong with D6 and for sure take it seriously. Obviously it is not quite the same as D1, players are playing for different reasons as a general rule.

For CLG to significantly improve as a football club they need to find some sort of consistent place to recruit from. It does seem as if there juniors are turning the corner some what, but they are a long way from senior football.

I would hope the Jets are not facing CLG in the next few years. CLG may have an ave age of 22, but we only have 3 blokes over 22 in our A grade, and with the foundations we have been building as a club I would hope to see us go up not down. But I'm glad we don't have Sunday morn sessions at the Jets, not sure how well that would go down!


Fwiw Ingle Farm had a Sunday regroup/recovery session last week after a pretty ordinary Saturday, came out and won by nearly 10 goals this week. 90% turned up, the others played B's this week, good way to find out who is serious. Just my opinion but i thought it worked well, and each coach will have his own opinion on things like that. If the Unley coach called a Sunday morning training, would you be there Jetters?????


I would certainly be there. However, depending on the reason for calling it, I may question to myself whether it's an effective way of achieving the desired outcome.


You know you are on track when the players call the sunday sessions, not the coaches. Been there, and has a good feel about it.[/quote]
Hey jetters - 4 /19 yearolds in our A's on saturday that played u/12 and u/14 for CLG and at least 8 in the underfeated B grade side. I think we're getting value from our juniors.
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Re: SAAFL Division 6 & D6R (2012)

Postby morell » Tue May 29, 2012 10:32 am

Gatt_Weasel wrote:so you find one player in all of div 6 and that justifys div 6 being of good standard and not washed up hacks and people who can no longer play up to a higher standard..not very often that good players choose to play in such scum leagues
There has actually been several players move from Div 5, 6 and 7 up and into Div 1. Even at Mitchell Park Luke McDonnell and Troy Pots went to Happy Valley and could play a lot higher and in very good competitions.

The major difference between the grades isn't the top 5 players, it's the bottom 10. Depth in other words. We would have 5+ guys playing in our A Grade that wouldn't get near a Div1R side let along a Div1 A grade side.

If that makes me (us) scum in your eyes then I am happy to be known as such. Enjoy the lofty heights of the Div 3 Pooraka B Grade.
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Re: SAAFL Division 6 & D6R (2012)

Postby Gatt_Weasel » Tue May 29, 2012 10:59 am

morell wrote:
Gatt_Weasel wrote:so you find one player in all of div 6 and that justifys div 6 being of good standard and not washed up hacks and people who can no longer play up to a higher standard..not very often that good players choose to play in such scum leagues
There has actually been several players move from Div 5, 6 and 7 up and into Div 1. Even at Mitchell Park Luke McDonnell and Troy Pots went to Happy Valley and could play a lot higher and in very good competitions.

The major difference between the grades isn't the top 5 players, it's the bottom 10. Depth in other words. We would have 5+ guys playing in our A Grade that wouldn't get near a Div1R side let along a Div1 A grade side.

If that makes me (us) scum in your eyes then I am happy to be known as such. Enjoy the lofty heights of the Div 3 Pooraka B Grade.



so i say great win to a B grade team and now i play for them LOL......i see only about 10 names at best that people have come up with ill stick by what i said any young player with any sort of skill should or would not waste time in div 6 or 7 .....lets cut the crap 6 and 7 are not good divisions for any talented younger player...the standard of football is slow....so what i have said is true most players aged say 28 or older on the way out who need some coin play these div's
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Re: SAAFL Division 6 & D6R (2012)

Postby BIG RED CAT » Tue May 29, 2012 11:04 am

old farmer wrote:Played in that game, but would have been 95 as i was still at Blanchetown Swan Reach in 94. Was it Woody Souths or Woody Districts back then? There would have been 2 Mounts playing, 2 Clarkes, 2 Tuthills. IF won a premiership the year before against Ferrydon Park. Boof Mesecke Played and went on to play 400 games, both Clarkes played over 300 games as well. Good days back then and a verry tight playing group. One of the best games i've played in, not every day you come back from 7 down to get up on the siren.


Yeah it was 1995.Was Woody South,Woodville Districts folded around 1990 and played at Pennington Reserve.Some great old names there for the Farmers, one of the funniest blokes i played against at IF was a bloke called Scab(Burns?).
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Re: SAAFL Division 6 & D6R (2012)

Postby zedman » Tue May 29, 2012 11:11 am

morell wrote:
Gatt_Weasel wrote:so you find one player in all of div 6 and that justifys div 6 being of good standard and not washed up hacks and people who can no longer play up to a higher standard..not very often that good players choose to play in such scum leagues
There has actually been several players move from Div 5, 6 and 7 up and into Div 1. Even at Mitchell Park Luke McDonnell and Troy Pots went to Happy Valley and could play a lot higher and in very good competitions.

The major difference between the grades isn't the top 5 players, it's the bottom 10. Depth in other words. We would have 5+ guys playing in our A Grade that wouldn't get near a Div1R side let along a Div1 A grade side.

If that makes me (us) scum in your eyes then I am happy to be known as such. Enjoy the lofty heights of the Div 3 Pooraka B Grade.
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Re: SAAFL Division 6 & D6R (2012)

Postby The Riddler » Tue May 29, 2012 11:16 am

Gatt_Weasel wrote:so i say great win to a B grade team and now i play for them LOL......i see only about 10 names at best that people have come up with ill stick by what i said any young player with any sort of skill should or would not waste time in div 6 or 7 .....lets cut the crap 6 and 7 are not good divisions for any talented younger player...the standard of football is slow....so what i have said is true most players aged say 28 or older on the way out who need some coin play these div's

I'm not sure if you are trying to bait people & extracting the urine or if you're fair dinkum?
There is some quality young kids playing this div who could and have played much higher, I mean we've got a couple in Mumford & Lees who have both played div 2 and country footy and then you have Rayner (played SANFL last year) from Woody South, Davis at Houghton, Woodward at United or even Stormonth at Lockleys. I'm sure there's plenty more!
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Re: SAAFL Division 6 & D6R (2012)

Postby old farmer » Tue May 29, 2012 11:18 am

BIG RED CAT wrote:
old farmer wrote:Played in that game, but would have been 95 as i was still at Blanchetown Swan Reach in 94. Was it Woody Souths or Woody Districts back then? There would have been 2 Mounts playing, 2 Clarkes, 2 Tuthills. IF won a premiership the year before against Ferrydon Park. Boof Mesecke Played and went on to play 400 games, both Clarkes played over 300 games as well. Good days back then and a verry tight playing group. One of the best games i've played in, not every day you come back from 7 down to get up on the siren.


Yeah it was 1995.Was Woody South,Woodville Districts folded around 1990 and played at Pennington Reserve.Some great old names there for the Farmers, one of the funniest blokes i played against at IF was a bloke called Scab(Burns?).


Scab made a come back and played C grade with a few of us old blokes in 2008, still picked up plenty of kicks off a wing. Great bloke
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Re: SAAFL Division 6 & D6R (2012)

Postby Q. » Tue May 29, 2012 11:18 am

Gatt_Weasel wrote:so i say great win to a B grade team and now i play for them LOL......i see only about 10 names at best that people have come up with ill stick by what i said any young player with any sort of skill should or would not waste time in div 6 or 7 .....lets cut the crap 6 and 7 are not good divisions for any talented younger player...the standard of football is slow....so what i have said is true most players aged say 28 or older on the way out who need some coin play these div's


You clearly have NFI. You're just embarrassing yourself now.
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Re: SAAFL Division 6 & D6R (2012)

Postby old farmer » Tue May 29, 2012 11:23 am

The Riddler wrote:
Gatt_Weasel wrote:so i say great win to a B grade team and now i play for them LOL......i see only about 10 names at best that people have come up with ill stick by what i said any young player with any sort of skill should or would not waste time in div 6 or 7 .....lets cut the crap 6 and 7 are not good divisions for any talented younger player...the standard of football is slow....so what i have said is true most players aged say 28 or older on the way out who need some coin play these div's

I'm not sure if you are trying to bait people & extracting the urine or if you're fair dinkum?
There is some quality young kids playing this div who could and have played much higher, I mean we've got a couple in Mumford & Lees who have both played div 2 and country footy and then you have Rayner (played SANFL last year) from Woody South, Davis at Houghton, Woodward at United or even Stormonth at Lockleys. I'm sure there's plenty more!


Naylor from IF played in a div 4 premiership at POORAKA and then played div 3 out there, back at IF to play for the club he grew up at with his mates, nothing wrong with that. Mate if you were trying to do a bit of fishing, you've now over done it and look like a knob.
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Re: SAAFL Division 6 & D6R (2012)

Postby morell » Tue May 29, 2012 11:29 am

Gatt_Weasel wrote:
morell wrote:
Gatt_Weasel wrote:so you find one player in all of div 6 and that justifys div 6 being of good standard and not washed up hacks and people who can no longer play up to a higher standard..not very often that good players choose to play in such scum leagues
There has actually been several players move from Div 5, 6 and 7 up and into Div 1. Even at Mitchell Park Luke McDonnell and Troy Pots went to Happy Valley and could play a lot higher and in very good competitions.

The major difference between the grades isn't the top 5 players, it's the bottom 10. Depth in other words. We would have 5+ guys playing in our A Grade that wouldn't get near a Div1R side let along a Div1 A grade side.

If that makes me (us) scum in your eyes then I am happy to be known as such. Enjoy the lofty heights of the Div 3 Pooraka B Grade.



so i say great win to a B grade team and now i play for them LOL......i see only about 10 names at best that people have come up with ill stick by what i said any young player with any sort of skill should or would not waste time in div 6 or 7 .....lets cut the crap 6 and 7 are not good divisions for any talented younger player...the standard of football is slow....so what i have said is true most players aged say 28 or older on the way out who need some coin play these div's
So you have now changed from no-one to 10? Soon you will be singing the praises of the lower divisions.

Mitchell Park u/23's (or thereabouts) from the weekend:

Brad Schneider
Adam Colquhoun
Jake Devlin
Jarrad Daish
Michael Mazey

Brett Parker
Steven Logan

The ones in bold would WALK into any Div 1 side given health and training requirements were met.

This is just Mitchell Park from Div 7, every other side in Div 6 would have similar numbers.

I will reiterate, the difference between the grades is depth of talent, fitness and commitment.
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Re: SAAFL Division 6 & D6R (2012)

Postby Gatt_Weasel » Tue May 29, 2012 11:32 am

you cant just say they walk up div 1 player's in div 6 or 7 anyone can look the goods
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Re: SAAFL Division 6 & D6R (2012)

Postby Footy Smart » Tue May 29, 2012 11:32 am

morell wrote:
Gatt_Weasel wrote:
morell wrote:
Gatt_Weasel wrote:so you find one player in all of div 6 and that justifys div 6 being of good standard and not washed up hacks and people who can no longer play up to a higher standard..not very often that good players choose to play in such scum leagues
There has actually been several players move from Div 5, 6 and 7 up and into Div 1. Even at Mitchell Park Luke McDonnell and Troy Pots went to Happy Valley and could play a lot higher and in very good competitions.

The major difference between the grades isn't the top 5 players, it's the bottom 10. Depth in other words. We would have 5+ guys playing in our A Grade that wouldn't get near a Div1R side let along a Div1 A grade side.

If that makes me (us) scum in your eyes then I am happy to be known as such. Enjoy the lofty heights of the Div 3 Pooraka B Grade.



so i say great win to a B grade team and now i play for them LOL......i see only about 10 names at best that people have come up with ill stick by what i said any young player with any sort of skill should or would not waste time in div 6 or 7 .....lets cut the crap 6 and 7 are not good divisions for any talented younger player...the standard of football is slow....so what i have said is true most players aged say 28 or older on the way out who need some coin play these div's
So you have now changed from no-one to 10? Soon you will be singing the praises of the lower divisions.

Mitchell Park u/23's (or thereabouts) from the weekend:

Brad Schneider
Adam Colquhoun
Jake Devlin
Jarrad Daish
Michael Mazey

Brett Parker
Steven Logan

The ones in bold would WALK into any Div 1 side given health and training requirements were met.

This is just Mitchell Park from Div 7, every other side in Div 6 would have similar numbers.

I will reiterate, the difference between the grades is depth of talent, fitness and commitment.


Cmon Morell

They wouldnt walk into ANY Div 1 side.... The Eagles 3rds and Gaza, I doooont think so!
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Re: SAAFL Division 6 & D6R (2012)

Postby morell » Tue May 29, 2012 11:35 am

If Ben Weekley can do it at PHOS, they could. Mind you Ben hasn't exactly walked into PHOS, he has struggled with injuries and form.

I love Ben, he is a great mate of mine, but I think even he would admit Steve Logan and Michael Mazey have a bit more going for them in terms of upside at this stage of their careers.

The problem would be commitment to training and fitness base - something Ben has a natural ability for. Given a solid pre-season and an injury free body (neither of which are a given) both of those players would walk into any Div 1 side. Guarantee it.

I think some people put Div 1 on a bit of a pedestal that I don't reckon it deserves. Its a great standard of footy but IMO isn't some sort of epically different stratosphere of football magic that no-one in the lower grades can aspire to.
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Re: SAAFL Division 6 & D6R (2012)

Postby morell » Tue May 29, 2012 12:46 pm

Gatt_Weasel wrote:you cant just say they walk up div 1 player's in div 6 or 7 anyone can look the goods
Its been proven mate. I am not making this up. Players have done it, are doing it now and will continue to do it in the future.

Each Div 6 side would have at least 2 or 3 players that could play in Division 1 with relative ease - Weekley, Boothey, Naylor, Raynor, Woodward, Davis etc. and another 5 which could given a bit of a stretch.

However, the bottom 5 players probably wouldn't make a Div1 R side.
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Re: SAAFL Division 6 & D6R (2012)

Postby Phantom Gossiper » Tue May 29, 2012 1:28 pm

The Riddler wrote:Round 8

Houghton Districts vs Lockleys
Mawson Lakes vs Colonel Light Gardens
Central United vs Blackfriars OS
Ingle Farm vs Woodville South
Trinity OS vs Adelaide University

Can Ingle Farm cause an upset? Central United are up and about and full of confidence, Could Blackfriars lose 3 in a row? Are Adelaide Uni now beginning to flex their muscles? so many questions, so few answers...discuss

Unfortunately Houghton lack depth and rely too heavily on too few so they will be up against it this week, Mawson Lakes should bounce back although i'd love nothing more than to see them lose again :D
Central United at home to win comfortably. Ingle Farm CAN cause an upset, and TOS will pump Adel Uni.
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Re: SAAFL Division 6 & D6R (2012)

Postby scottroo » Tue May 29, 2012 1:29 pm

I disagree morell, think you underestimate div 1. Daish is a good player but wouldn't play div 1. Visser who played for us and now flinders park shows how good a player you need to be to play div 2
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Re: SAAFL Division 6 & D6R (2012)

Postby Phantom Gossiper » Tue May 29, 2012 1:36 pm

scottroo wrote:I disagree morell, think you underestimate div 1. Daish is a good player but wouldn't play div 1. Visser who played for us and now flinders park shows how good a player you need to be to play div 2

There are plenty of examples of players who have gone to play at higher levels like morell listed - Mark Boothey from Paralowie now at Gepps Cross, Ben Weekley at PHOS.

I've seen some pretty average players at div 1 and div 2 level skill wise, but have strong fitness bases.
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