HFL Division 2 (Country)

[supersonicgun]

only what ive heard but rumour has it sh#t load of players want out at gummies that coming from a former player there last year, not enjoying there footy out there at all....

Most of them are probably on contracts it would cost clubs to much to get them cleared

[old fullback]

only what ive heard but rumour has it sh#t load of players want out at gummies that coming from a former player there last year, not enjoying there footy out there at all....

Most of them are probably on contracts it would cost clubs to much to get them cleared

Of course players are grumpy when there not winning,everyone wants to play in a winning team but reality is not every team can be a winner on the day,HTFU, its about the team,as they say - theres no I in team.

[No Respect]

only what ive heard but rumour has it sh#t load of players want out at gummies that coming from a former player there last year, not enjoying there footy out there at all....

Most of them are probably on contracts it would cost clubs to much to get them cleared

Of course players are grumpy when there not winning,everyone wants to play in a winning team but reality is not every team can be a winner on the day,HTFU, its about the team,as they say - theres no I in team.

Obviously coach issues out that way still not resolved - but could have been (and still could be) according to info ive heard.

[Kickittometoo]

Not a good look for HFL Country Division yesterday. Average winning margin was 158 points, with all five losing sides managing to kick six goals or less. In the B's, all five losing sides kicked three goals or less with two managing none at all. If there was ever a right time to gather data supporting a 3 Div. comp, yesterday was it.

well spotted, very good point Crumber. I attended one of those games expecting a lot better (and no it wasn't Eagles or S/C). I don't think HFL gather any data mate else this situation would never have gone on this long

[hereforthebeer]

only what ive heard but rumour has it sh#t load of players want out at gummies that coming from a former player there last year, not enjoying there footy out there at all....

Most of them are probably on contracts it would cost clubs to much to get them cleared

Of course players are grumpy when there not winning,everyone wants to play in a winning team but reality is not every team can be a winner on the day,HTFU, its about the team,as they say - theres no I in team.

But there is me!!

[sweetlips]

Yeah there is also an A in CASH

[The Sorce]

Almost Half way through the Season with One more Round after this week, how has everyone seen the Teams so Far:

Echunga - Look to be the clear front runners, Kersbrook did challenge them but from the team playing against Kersbrook Echunga were missing a few of their key recruits.
Kersbrook - Back up the top again this year and so far look to be the only team that can challenge Echunga for the GF.
Birdwood - Have lost some suprising ones - Due to injuiries, will be stronger in the second half of the year, and will be interesting to see how they go against Echunga in round 9.
Nairne Bremer - With some of their Key Players for the year pulling the pin seem to be set to play finals but how far they go depends on some of their senior players.
Meadows - Claimed a good win against Birdwood at home, some weeks look competative and other they dont seem to turn up.
Kangarilla - Vast improvement on last year, a little bit more competative but will most likley miss out on finals.
Gumeracha - Dissapointing start with poor results would have expected them to be top 4 team but now sitting 7th on the ladder
Macclesfield - Again thought with their pick ups this year they may be a bit more competative but have fallen to the back of the pack once again. This may secure their spot in Div 3 (if it eventuates)
Seadn Cambrai - Were only meant to be in the comp 2 years, a little bit more competative this year but only win is again UE. Where will they be next year??????
United Eagles - - C grade

[On The Ball]

What is the point of beginning a Div 3 comp? This isn't the SAAFL!!!

The solution is simple, but many seam too naive to see it.

The Central Div is strong, so leave it. Possibly look at a promotion/relegation for the premiers only or Grand finalists from the Country Div, with the bottom one or two from Central comming down.

With regards to the Country Div, Callington to a C grade, no questions asked as they've been a lauging stock for too long.

Persisit with Sedan, Maccy & Kangarilla. Sedan have a good 5 year plan & are getting better, Kangarilla have teriffic juniors, so will be aound the mark in yeras to come & im sure maccy are working hard.

No Div 3 comp, leave it how it is. If Milang think their good enough, bring them up to the Country Div, if not, leave them where they are!!!

[Champ]

What is the point of beginning a Div 3 comp? This isn't the SAAFL!!!

The solution is simple, but many seam too naive to see it.

The Central Div is strong, so leave it. Possibly look at a promotion/relegation for the premiers only or Grand finalists from the Country Div, with the bottom one or two from Central comming down.

With regards to the Country Div, Callington to a C grade, no questions asked as they've been a lauging stock for too long.

Persisit with Sedan, Maccy & Kangarilla. Sedan have a good 5 year plan & are getting better, Kangarilla have teriffic juniors, so will be aound the mark in yeras to come & im sure maccy are working hard.

No Div 3 comp, leave it how it is. If Milang think their good enough, bring them up to the Country Div, if not, leave them where they are!!!

Call me naive but have you just basically eluded to a three division comp using different (current) names?
Promotion/relegation of top two bottom two needs to be enforced; agreed sway CUE for Milang if they're prepared otherwise simply drop CUE. Keep the same name, call it bronze, copper and gold for all I care but quite simply its clear there already is a 3 tiered comp however it doesn't have a relegation system.
Regardless the twats at the HFL will find themselves in the same position next year if they dont make a decision and take a vote urgently about season 2013.

[Gervais]

Call me naive but have you just basically eluded to a three division comp using different (current) names?
Promotion/relegation of top two bottom two needs to be enforced; agreed sway CUE for Milang if they're prepared otherwise simply drop CUE. Keep the same name, call it bronze, copper and gold for all I care but quite simply its clear there already is a 3 tiered comp however it doesn't have a relegation system.
Regardless the twats at the HFL will find themselves in the same position next year if they dont make a decision and take a vote urgently about season 2013.

you can't mandate promotion. quite simply, some of the country clubs have no desire to play central division football. they may have fears for the impact it will have on their junior teams, or simply dont want to have to start spending silly money to compete against cashed-up central clubs.

promotion should always be on offer, but the club must have the final say on whther they want to accept it.

[Kickittometoo]

What is the point of beginning a Div 3 comp? This isn't the SAAFL!!!

The solution is simple, but many seam too naive to see it.

The Central Div is strong, so leave it. Possibly look at a promotion/relegation for the premiers only or Grand finalists from the Country Div, with the bottom one or two from Central comming down.

With regards to the Country Div, Callington to a C grade, no questions asked as they've been a lauging stock for too long.

Persisit with Sedan, Maccy & Kangarilla. Sedan have a good 5 year plan & are getting better, Kangarilla have teriffic juniors, so will be aound the mark in yeras to come & im sure maccy are working hard.

No Div 3 comp, leave it how it is. If Milang think their good enough, bring them up to the Country Div, if not, leave them where they are!!!

Well said, agreed on all counts. But I would worry even with Callington playing Cs. I havent seen them this year but by all reports they are as bad as last year. I have seen several C grade games this year and to be honest I think eagles would struggle to get anywhere near any of those sides. But they must be kept afloat.

[Champ]

So the C'Grades a better or as good a standard as country?

[Benchwarmer]

I agree with Gervais, but there could be a mandate if a rule was passed.

The HFL clubs could pass a rule where the Country premiers are offered promotion to Central, with that team having the right to decline promotion. If the premiers declined promotion, then the composition of the two grades would remain. The runners-up would not be offered promotion in any scenario.

[Hear the roar]

So the C'Grades a better or as good a standard as country?

Absolutely. Five out of six C grade sides this year are from Hills Central Clubs. Milang are the exception, not being zoned in either division. The current top two teams would defeat over half Hills Country Bs and unfortunately some of the lower Country A's.

C's is very competitive, as anyone who has seen a game would know, with very few overweight players and a healthy sprinkling of youngsters and experienced leaders.

It has a cult following and I think most clubs would like to keep it in its' present format, with no pressure on any club to change status in terms of divisions.

Would welcome any comments on this.

[Champ]

So the C'Grades a better or as good a standard as country?

Absolutely. Five out of six C grade sides this year are from Hills Central Clubs. Milang are the exception, not being zoned in either division. The current top two teams would defeat over half Hills Country Bs and unfortunately some of the lower Country A's.

C's is very competitive, as anyone who has seen a game would know, with very few overweight players and a healthy sprinkling of youngsters and experienced leaders.

It has a cult following and I think most clubs would like to keep it in its' present format, with no pressure on any club to change status in terms of divisions.

Would welcome any comments on this.

You're seriously saying that the better teams in the c'grade competition would leap frog the country division? This I gotta see for myself because I think you're kidding yourself or taking the piss.

[Trooper]

So the C'Grades a better or as good a standard as country?

Absolutely. Five out of six C grade sides this year are from Hills Central Clubs. Milang are the exception, not being zoned in either division. The current top two teams would defeat over half Hills Country Bs and unfortunately some of the lower Country A's.

C's is very competitive, as anyone who has seen a game would know, with very few overweight players and a healthy sprinkling of youngsters and experienced leaders.

It has a cult following and I think most clubs would like to keep it in its' present format, with no pressure on any club to change status in terms of divisions.

Would welcome any comments on this.

You're seriously saying that the better teams in the c'grade competition would leap frog the country division? This I gotta see for myself because I think you're kidding yourself or taking the piss.

in 2010 Torrens Valley's B Grade were coming off a Grand Final win in Country and the following year in Central Div were the easy beats. You would think that this form line would show that some of those C grade sides could potentially account for some Country Div B Grade sides and considering the standard of the worst 2 A Grade sides in Country you could say they would be challenged (beaten) by these C Grade Teams.

[Benchwarmer]

@Champ - I cannot see where HTR said they could leapfrog Country.

HTR said "The current top two teams ... (in C Grade) ... would defeat over half Hills Country Bs and unfortunately some of the lower Country A's".

Never did he imply that those teams would beat all of the Country A sides and progress to Central - plus it could never be considered to have a 3rds side playing Central As!

[Hear the roar]

@Champ - I cannot see where HTR said they could leapfrog Country.

HTR said "The current top two teams ... (in C Grade) ... would defeat over half Hills Country Bs and unfortunately some of the lower Country A's".

Never did he imply that those teams would beat all of the Country A sides and progress to Central - plus it could never be considered to have a 3rds side playing Central As!

Cheers Benchwarmer, that's exactly what I did mean. Trooper is correct also.
A healthy C grade comp is essential in the hills and is an excellent leveler for all participating players and clubs in that it crosses both divisions, without necessarily creating the need for a third. And the skill level and crowd interest is well worth a look.

[Off The Wall]

So the C'Grades a better or as good a standard as country?

Absolutely. Five out of six C grade sides this year are from Hills Central Clubs. Milang are the exception, not being zoned in either division. The current top two teams would defeat over half Hills Country Bs and unfortunately some of the lower Country A's.

C's is very competitive, as anyone who has seen a game would know, with very few overweight players and a healthy sprinkling of youngsters and experienced leaders.

It has a cult following and I think most clubs would like to keep it in its' present format, with no pressure on any club to change status in terms of divisions.

Would welcome any comments on this.

You're seriously saying that the better teams in the c'grade competition would leap frog the country division? This I gotta see for myself because I think you're kidding yourself or taking the piss.

in 2010 Torrens Valley's B Grade were coming off a Grand Final win in Country and the following year in Central Div were the easy beats. You would think that this form line would show that some of those C grade sides could potentially account for some Country Div B Grade sides and considering the standard of the worst 2 A Grade sides in Country you could say they would be challenged (beaten) by these C Grade Teams.

You'll find that Torrens Valley side was missing at least half that grand final side when they went up to Central. They wouldnt of made the grand final in country with that depleted side if they stayed

[Champ]

Anyway, bottom line the HFL competition is lop sided and needs to be developed for the betterment of the game in the future in the area.

Central clubs can sit back and think all is well but they're kidding themselves, things move in circles and already there are plenty of teams without juniors in their ranks - fast forward ten years and which clubs will be where?