by Student » Fri May 04, 2012 12:00 am
by GWW » Fri May 04, 2012 12:34 am
by field of dreams » Fri May 04, 2012 10:17 am
by hereforthebeer » Mon May 07, 2012 11:02 am
by Sky Pilot » Sun Sep 30, 2012 8:25 pm
by UNCLE SAM » Tue Oct 02, 2012 1:21 pm
Sky Pilot wrote:Heard that the points system will be modified for 2013. Anyone throw some light on this?
by Sky Pilot » Tue Oct 02, 2012 1:28 pm
UNCLE SAM wrote:Sky Pilot wrote:Heard that the points system will be modified for 2013. Anyone throw some light on this?
Points system needs no modification.
As usual SAAFL trying to run the blobby CFB and push through rules changes.
How can all A1 clubs still get 15 points it makes a mockery of the system.
Have heard country clubs are up in arms over the proposed changes and some leagues threating to pull out of CFB as they are letting SAAFL rule the rost.
If players moving to Adelaide from country are now going to be zero then A1 clubs would be again advantaged and near country leagues would again be the loser.
by Caramels » Tue Oct 02, 2012 8:00 pm
Sky Pilot wrote:UNCLE SAM wrote:Sky Pilot wrote:Heard that the points system will be modified for 2013. Anyone throw some light on this?
Points system needs no modification.
As usual SAAFL trying to run the blobby CFB and push through rules changes.
How can all A1 clubs still get 15 points it makes a mockery of the system.
Have heard country clubs are up in arms over the proposed changes and some leagues threating to pull out of CFB as they are letting SAAFL rule the rost.
If players moving to Adelaide from country are now going to be zero then A1 clubs would be again advantaged and near country leagues would again be the loser.
Well at least two leagues in the Central Zone are rumoured to be considering dumping the points system. I think this would trigger a mutiny if they have the balls to stand up to the CFB
by The Big Shrek » Tue Oct 02, 2012 8:20 pm
UNCLE SAM wrote:Sky Pilot wrote:Heard that the points system will be modified for 2013. Anyone throw some light on this?
Points system needs no modification.
As usual SAAFL trying to run the blobby CFB and push through rules changes.
How can all A1 clubs still get 15 points it makes a mockery of the system.
Have heard country clubs are up in arms over the proposed changes and some leagues threating to pull out of CFB as they are letting SAAFL rule the rost.
If players moving to Adelaide from country are now going to be zero then A1 clubs would be again advantaged and near country leagues would again be the loser.
by Sky Pilot » Tue Oct 02, 2012 8:33 pm
by The Big Shrek » Tue Oct 02, 2012 8:46 pm
by Jimmy_041 » Tue Oct 02, 2012 9:57 pm
UNCLE SAM wrote:Points system needs no modification.
As usual SAAFL trying to run the blobby CFB and push through rules changes.
How can all A1 clubs still get 15 points it makes a mockery of the system.
Have heard country clubs are up in arms over the proposed changes and some leagues threating to pull out of CFB as they are letting SAAFL rule the rost.
If players moving to Adelaide from country are now going to be zero then A1 clubs would be again advantaged and near country leagues would again be the loser.
by UNCLE SAM » Wed Oct 03, 2012 2:29 pm
Jimmy_041 wrote:UNCLE SAM wrote:Points system needs no modification.
As usual SAAFL trying to run the blobby CFB and push through rules changes.
How can all A1 clubs still get 15 points it makes a mockery of the system.
Have heard country clubs are up in arms over the proposed changes and some leagues threating to pull out of CFB as they are letting SAAFL rule the rost.
The APPS system allows 15 points per A Grade team so A1 (sic) clubs still get 15 points because we have a promotion/relegation system to even things up. I would have thought that was pretty obvious.
There is a proposal for people who are legitimately transferred through work or school to apply for a zero rating. But, that also could mean a teacher going from Victor Harbour to Ceduna, Port Lincoln to Mypolonga or vice versa. With the proper safeguards in place, it is a fair and equitable proposition. Put the nastiest people on the committee to make it even harder to achieve.
As for near country leagues again being the loser PFFT!!!
by Jimmy_041 » Wed Oct 03, 2012 3:39 pm
UNCLE SAM wrote:Jimmy_041 wrote:UNCLE SAM wrote:Points system needs no modification.
As usual SAAFL trying to run the blobby CFB and push through rules changes.
How can all A1 clubs still get 15 points it makes a mockery of the system.
Have heard country clubs are up in arms over the proposed changes and some leagues threating to pull out of CFB as they are letting SAAFL rule the rost.
The APPS system allows 15 points per A Grade team so A1 (sic) clubs still get 15 points because we have a promotion/relegation system to even things up. I would have thought that was pretty obvious.
There is a proposal for people who are legitimately transferred through work or school to apply for a zero rating. But, that also could mean a teacher going from Victor Harbour to Ceduna, Port Lincoln to Mypolonga or vice versa. With the proper safeguards in place, it is a fair and equitable proposition. Put the nastiest people on the committee to make it even harder to achieve.
As for near country leagues again being the loser PFFT!!!
As usual you city people miss the point of the APPS and that is it is supposed to be a player equalisation system.
That means to me the top clubs get less than the bottom to make it a more even and fairer comp and makes you develope your juniors and be very selective in recruiting good people as well as good players so they stay at the club and gradually move from 3 points to zero.
The issue of the College clubs in SAAFL getting more points than other sand the 2 clubs coming up due to promotion relegations is a no brainer and they should all be on 15 points but for Gaza,Henley,Brodview etc to be on 15 points is bloody ridiculos and blantant disregard to the APPS.
Then you want to make any players moving from country into Adelaide to be zero points why not just give you all 30 popints and total stuff up the APPS altogether.
SAAFL players lost to country is balanced by the number of country footballers coming into Adelaide.Check Sportingpulse and see that the clearance in and clearance out for most country leagues shows this balance but you SAAFL people still want to squeal.
Now you also want to stuff up the junior comps in metro area.
Me thinks someone is wanting to start up his empire building and take over the CFB
by used to be » Wed Dec 19, 2012 10:17 am
by Kart Horse » Wed Dec 19, 2012 10:52 am
used to be wrote:Isnt the solution obvious, get rid of the points , without getting bogged down with technical stats , in the ninetys and early into the 2000 wins were shared around , Tailem were unbeatable at 1stage in that erea , so were Jervois and ramblers and imps were always around the mark. Meningie also had brief recruiting spree and were very good for a period of time and Mannum also had their time in the sun. Get rid of the points in this league as it only really helps those with large quality numbers , at this rate clubs will be broke just trying to be competetive. The absolute worse thing is that it is making very average players worth $500 a game. Individuals are making a lot of money while the clubs are struggling. We have a new police officer move into murray bridge and wants to play for imps he came from port Augusta and played A grade footy he cant play because we dont have the points to fit him in and he doesnt want to play for Ramblers so what does he do ?? the whole points system as approved will kill this competition.
by Executive Member » Wed Dec 19, 2012 11:06 am
Kart Horse wrote:used to be wrote:Isnt the solution obvious, get rid of the points , without getting bogged down with technical stats , in the ninetys and early into the 2000 wins were shared around , Tailem were unbeatable at 1stage in that erea , so were Jervois and ramblers and imps were always around the mark. Meningie also had brief recruiting spree and were very good for a period of time and Mannum also had their time in the sun. Get rid of the points in this league as it only really helps those with large quality numbers , at this rate clubs will be broke just trying to be competetive. The absolute worse thing is that it is making very average players worth $500 a game. Individuals are making a lot of money while the clubs are struggling. We have a new police officer move into murray bridge and wants to play for imps he came from port Augusta and played A grade footy he cant play because we dont have the points to fit him in and he doesnt want to play for Ramblers so what does he do ?? the whole points system as approved will kill this competition.
It has good and bad points like all systems. All of what you have said is true. Also look at say a mid 30 year old. They shouldnt be worth 3 points at a new club. Same deal if he moves and wants to play locally. Why would any club want to waste 3 points on an aging player when they could get a 25 year old who may stick around.
Then look in the BL&G Tanunda get 3 points only. Yes they have won 4 of the past 5 GFs but they can only get 1 new player every 3 years or play juniors. They hope like hell they get players returning. Will last a while then cripple a club.
by Caramels » Thu Dec 20, 2012 2:11 pm
Executive Member wrote:Kart Horse wrote:used to be wrote:Isnt the solution obvious, get rid of the points , without getting bogged down with technical stats , in the ninetys and early into the 2000 wins were shared around , Tailem were unbeatable at 1stage in that erea , so were Jervois and ramblers and imps were always around the mark. Meningie also had brief recruiting spree and were very good for a period of time and Mannum also had their time in the sun. Get rid of the points in this league as it only really helps those with large quality numbers , at this rate clubs will be broke just trying to be competetive. The absolute worse thing is that it is making very average players worth $500 a game. Individuals are making a lot of money while the clubs are struggling. We have a new police officer move into murray bridge and wants to play for imps he came from port Augusta and played A grade footy he cant play because we dont have the points to fit him in and he doesnt want to play for Ramblers so what does he do ?? the whole points system as approved will kill this competition.
It has good and bad points like all systems. All of what you have said is true. Also look at say a mid 30 year old. They shouldnt be worth 3 points at a new club. Same deal if he moves and wants to play locally. Why would any club want to waste 3 points on an aging player when they could get a 25 year old who may stick around.
Then look in the BL&G Tanunda get 3 points only. Yes they have won 4 of the past 5 GFs but they can only get 1 new player every 3 years or play juniors. They hope like hell they get players returning. Will last a while then cripple a club.
average players are only worth $500 if Clubs offer it to them
by Aussie Made » Thu Dec 20, 2012 9:29 pm
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