WAFL accepts Freo & WC reserves

[smac]

I accept this is a strong rumour but have not been able to find any official announcement anywhere.

I'd be reluctant to believe it at the moment. I think it might be just someone trying to stuff up a family day.

I'll ring Rubbers and find out.

Wait for the weekend please.

[passionatelegsfan]

It is a done deal.

Peel have already signed with Fremantle (not sure if it starts 2013 or 14 though) and East Perth about to with West Coast.

Both clubs broke ranks after voting to stick together on the reserves issue (smell like 1990 anyone)

You mean when Port and Norwood tried to break ranks from an inward looking sporting body.

please don't taint norwood with that foul stench of betrayal. What happened in 1990 is on Port alone.

Norwood had signed a heads of agreement with Port in the mid 80's that stated that both clubs would jointly approach the VFL should positions arise...Granted, after this Port did approach the VFL/AFL then to enter solely.

They had? I could be wrong because i was only a teenager at the time, however my recollection is that Norwood had been engaged in discussion but had ultimately decided they would do nothing without the consent of the SANFL. That is alot different to what Port did.

In any event I am glad that norwood did not go into it as i would much rather them play in the SANFL where they belong. I don't know why anyone would want to play in the rotton VFL/AFL. It's a victorian competition trying to masquarade as a national comp. A national comp where more than half the teams are from the same state. Truly national sporting competitions must laugh themselves silly at the VFL's efforts to pass themselves off as a national comp.

[beenreal]

NRL ring any bells for you?

[UK Fan]

Peel Thunder & East Perth now AFL reserves teams.

how long to the SANFL falls into line???????

http://m.perthnow.com.au/sport/afl/cam- ... 6483478893


Peel last week appointed a new senior coach who isn't a west coast assistant .
Interesting!!

Garry Hockings record at Peel is interesting !!

[holden78]

NRL ring any bells for you?

From 1990 to 2011/12!
How the mighty have fallen, and the Flowers will not be anything for a very long time!
Where have all the supporters gone..... true believers or bandwagoners?
The latter for sure, and that's half the problem
The other half of the problem is the club has been soooo poorly run, it's like Marcus Clark has been behind it all along!

[PhilH]

Interesting piece this morning in The West Australian on the issue and also ABC TV coverage of the WAFL post 2013 season.


http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/sport/a/-/wafl/15129084/host-clubs-closer-for-eagles-dockers/

[StrayDog]

Interesting piece this morning in The West Australian on the issue and also ABC TV coverage of the WAFL post 2013 season.


http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/sport/a/-/wafl/15129084/host-clubs-closer-for-eagles-dockers/

"Peel Thunder's John Ditchburn said he was well aware of the speculation about his club and the Royals but said Peel could not adopt any position on an alignment until they saw a firm proposal.

"We are waiting for the commission to put a proposal to us," Ditchburn said. "We have heard the rumours like everyone else ..."



If Mr Ditchburn read this forum he would know "It is a done deal...Peel have already signed with Fremantle".

Meanwhile, his mate over at the Royals has gone conveniently incommunicado.

[Booney]

Interesting piece this morning in The West Australian on the issue and also ABC TV coverage of the WAFL post 2013 season.
http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/sport/a/-/wafl/15129084/host-clubs-closer-for-eagles-dockers/

"Peel Thunder's John Ditchburn said he was well aware of the speculation about his club and the Royals but said Peel could not adopt any position on an alignment until they saw a firm proposal.
"We are waiting for the commission to put a proposal to us," Ditchburn said. "We have heard the rumours like everyone else ..."
If Mr Ditchburn read this forum he would know "It is a done deal...Peel have already signed with Fremantle".
Meanwhile, his mate over at the Royals has gone conveniently incommunicado.

LOL - Nice signature.

[Wedgie]

NRL ring any bells for you?

Norwood tried to join the NRL?

[StrayDog]

LOL - Nice signature.

Thanks Boon. Mind you I've always had a sweet spot for enlightening modernist prose.

[SDK]

Glad Freo picked a top club to align with ....what a joke that clubs is and always has been.
The Shit Fish.

[Psyber]

They don't think it is a done deal in WA.
I have been in touch with a friend of mine in Fremantle - a Freo supporter who sent me the same link:

Both the Dockers and the Eagles have been pushing have reserve teams on the WAFL for some years.
Most WAFL clubs oppose it as they believe it would destroy the WAFL.

The WAFL has its own problems with their reserves teams being a financial drain on the WAFL clubs and there has been consideration given to disbanding the WAFL reserves. Some WAFL clubs sit on the edge of financial oblivion already.

From a community perspective, I would like the WAFL to continue. Conversely the Dockers and the Eagles, would be better served by having Reserve teams.
I explain this away as being a consequence of the AFL being the bastard child of the VFL.

[JamesH]

LOL - Nice signature.

Thanks Boon. Mind you I've always had a sweet spot for enlightening modernist prose.

Thanks for quoting me..... use correct quotation protocols next time:)

What you 'keyboard warriors' all fail to realise as normal is that the 'divide and conquer' technique is being used by the AFL in WA... with the AFL clubs picking the two weakest of the heard.

South Australia can either get caught with its pants down like in 1990 saying 'it wont happen to us' or be prepared this time.

It was stated on SEN radio by AFL Victoria CEO that they will not accept non Victorian AFL reserves teams in the VFL & and the these clubs will have to look to their respective state leagues.

The AFL will then have two choices - invest in a reserves comp or withold funding from SANFL & WAFL until it does what it wants. Which way do you think they will go?

[PhilH]

The AFL does not fund either the WAFL or SANFL state league competitions ...
but it does fund junior development in both states.

Why is AFL clubs in SANFL reserves such a bad option?
- SANFL League remains untouched, indeed without any AFL changes their league team is their own.
- PAFC have just 3 teams to manage, the most cost effective for them with the Magpies still out to win a league premiership.
- No need to start a new comp.
- Best level to start for most AFL draftees

[JK]

The AFL does not fund either the WAFL or SANFL state league competitions ...
but it does fund junior development in both states.

Why is AFL clubs in SANFL reserves such a bad option?
- SANFL League remains untouched, indeed without any AFL changes their league team is their own.
- PAFC have just 3 teams to manage, the most cost effective for them with the Magpies still out to win a league premiership.
- No need to start a new comp.
- Best level to start for most AFL draftees

What happens to the SANFL Salary Cap in that situation Phil?

[PhilH]

SANFL salary cap actually becomes a lot simpler becuase clubs dont need to account for the nominal charge that is made to a SANFL club's figure when AFL listed players play a SANFL league game for them

SANFL clubs control their players 100%
AFL clubs control their players 100%

[JK]

SANFL salary cap actually becomes a lot simpler becuase clubs dont need to account for the nominal charge that is made to a SANFL club's figure when AFL listed players play a SANFL league game for them

SANFL clubs control their players 100%
AFL clubs control their players 100%

Yes, but lets say we have a Glenelg v Port match - Won't both competing teams be of disproportionate value?

[PhilH]

Magpies salary cap may need a slight adj as they would be running off a smaller list.

Glenelg reserves v Magpies /Power reserves .... cant see the salary cap issue

[CENTURION]

The AFL does not fund either the WAFL or SANFL state league competitions ...
but it does fund junior development in both states.

Why is AFL clubs in SANFL reserves such a bad option?
- SANFL League remains untouched, indeed without any AFL changes their league team is their own.
- PAFC have just 3 teams to manage, the most cost effective for them with the Magpies still out to win a league premiership.
- No need to start a new comp.
- Best level to start for most AFL draftees

makes sense to me!

[Grahaml]

Where would the extra players for these AFL reserves come from? I got no problem with it in principal. But in effect I think these teams will end up battling it out for bottom place year in year out. There is also the question of if they did make the finals, would they pull their players out for surgery as they currently do? Do we really want 2 teams in the comp who have basically no chance of finals participation?

Best solution for all is to put all AFL clubs in a separate reserves competition. Play them as curtain raisers and then all clubs are in the exact same position. The costs will increase, no doubt, but if they want reserves and run as a professional competition then they should do it properly.