by cheetah » Tue Oct 23, 2012 2:31 am
by Bully » Tue Oct 23, 2012 6:43 am
by Ronnie » Tue Oct 23, 2012 11:24 am
Bully wrote:how the hell do you get away with something this big, and soooo many people were involved and kept quiet about it for so long.......
they should have a tour with the known cheaters, and riders who say they are on drugs, and see there times, and have a clean , proper tour and see those times, and compare them ..
by Squids » Tue Oct 23, 2012 12:07 pm
by Ronnie » Tue Oct 23, 2012 12:13 pm
Squids wrote:Still no "proof" he did it.
If I got together will enough people I could claim anyone was on drugs and apparently it would become true.
by dedja » Tue Oct 23, 2012 12:28 pm
by RustyCage » Tue Oct 23, 2012 1:25 pm
Squids wrote:Still no "proof" he did it.
If I got together will enough people I could claim anyone was on drugs and apparently it would become true.
by Bully » Tue Oct 23, 2012 1:32 pm
Squids wrote:Still no "proof" he did it.
If I got together will enough people I could claim anyone was on drugs and apparently it would become true.
by Squids » Tue Oct 23, 2012 4:12 pm
by Trader » Tue Oct 23, 2012 5:00 pm
by scoob » Tue Oct 23, 2012 5:21 pm
Trader wrote:If I understand it correctly (which I might not), the main reason he didn't get done was cause with the help of Dr Ferrari, they were "micro-doping", where basically rather than taking a full hit every 3 or 4 days, they would get smaller doses on a daily basis. This allows their readings to remain relatively constant rather than the peaks and troughs you get with conventional doping, which was one of the main things the anti-doping agencies look for.
by Q. » Tue Oct 23, 2012 7:01 pm
by test » Tue Oct 23, 2012 7:13 pm
by cheetah » Tue Oct 23, 2012 7:20 pm
by Q. » Tue Oct 23, 2012 7:44 pm
test wrote:If he was good enough to win without them why didn't he? More then that, with 7 wins, why not have a crack at one clean to see if he could do it? He felt he had to cheat to beat his competitors, he wasn't superior to them.
by test » Tue Oct 23, 2012 7:49 pm
Q. wrote:test wrote:If he was good enough to win without them why didn't he? More then that, with 7 wins, why not have a crack at one clean to see if he could do it? He felt he had to cheat to beat his competitors, he wasn't superior to them.
The culture of doping during that era of cycling. He fell in line with everyone else.
by Squids » Tue Oct 23, 2012 8:23 pm
by whufc » Tue Oct 23, 2012 8:31 pm
Squids wrote:No "PROOF" he didn't beat them clean.
by PPLions » Tue Oct 23, 2012 8:32 pm
by test » Tue Oct 23, 2012 8:32 pm
PPLions wrote:My mate Kai is basically a professional cyclist and says most cyclists at the elite level think Lance would have won several TDF even without performance enhancing drugs
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