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Re: Lance Armstrong biggest disgrace since crows missed pav

Postby cheetah » Tue Oct 23, 2012 2:31 am

I wish they had the power 2 send him 2 jail. what are the prices of lance armstrong memorbilia doing?
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Re: Lance Armstrong biggest disgrace since crows missed pav

Postby Bully » Tue Oct 23, 2012 6:43 am

how the hell do you get away with something this big, and soooo many people were involved and kept quiet about it for so long.......

they should have a tour with the known cheaters, and riders who say they are on drugs, and see there times, and have a clean , proper tour and see those times, and compare them ..
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Re: Lance Armstrong biggest disgrace since crows missed pav

Postby Ronnie » Tue Oct 23, 2012 11:24 am

Bully wrote:how the hell do you get away with something this big, and soooo many people were involved and kept quiet about it for so long.......

they should have a tour with the known cheaters, and riders who say they are on drugs, and see there times, and have a clean , proper tour and see those times, and compare them ..


Like most cover up's, thuggish intimidation is a part of it.

The t**d had his mates do the dirty work. Once the dam wall breaks it all comes flooding out, pity it took so long.

Pity the sport itself couldn't catch him, it took a country's anti doping agency to do it.

Pity his face is still smeared across too many book covers.
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Re: Lance Armstrong biggest disgrace since crows missed pav

Postby Squids » Tue Oct 23, 2012 12:07 pm

Still no "proof" he did it.


If I got together will enough people I could claim anyone was on drugs and apparently it would become true.
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Re: Lance Armstrong biggest disgrace since crows missed pav

Postby Ronnie » Tue Oct 23, 2012 12:13 pm

Squids wrote:Still no "proof" he did it.


If I got together will enough people I could claim anyone was on drugs and apparently it would become true.



What exactly would constitute proof for you in this situation?

If your waiting for the old toss bag to fess up, you might be waiting an awfully long time based on his character traits.
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Re: Lance Armstrong biggest disgrace since crows missed pav

Postby dedja » Tue Oct 23, 2012 12:28 pm

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Lance Armstrong biggest disgrace since crows missed pav

Postby RustyCage » Tue Oct 23, 2012 1:25 pm

Squids wrote:Still no "proof" he did it.


If I got together will enough people I could claim anyone was on drugs and apparently it would become true.


He wasn't banned just because a couple of people came out and said he took drugs.
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Re: Lance Armstrong biggest disgrace since crows missed pav

Postby Bully » Tue Oct 23, 2012 1:32 pm

Squids wrote:Still no "proof" he did it.


If I got together will enough people I could claim anyone was on drugs and apparently it would become true.



so why would all these other riders come out and say they helped and assisted him, "if" he didnt do it?? Why would anyone say, oh i was involved, and took drugs also, just to get him in trouble?? They are admitting they took the drugs also or whatever it is and they said, and saying yes amstrong was involved...

Oh, i will say "i took drugs with him or assisted him" even thou i really didnt do it, and jepardise (however its spelt) my career just to get him in trouble......if you know what i mean

- Oh, i robbed that bank with him (even thou i really didnt) and get myself in jail, just to get them into trouble......rriiiigggghhhtttt :roll:
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Re: Lance Armstrong biggest disgrace since crows missed pav

Postby Squids » Tue Oct 23, 2012 4:12 pm

IIRC they keep urine / blood samples for 7 years. You are telling me that 7 years ago the drugs are that far in front of current technology? I highly doubt that.

How come the other riders didn't get done, surely someone would of slipped up???


I would be checking the cyclists accusing Lance bank accounts.
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Re: Lance Armstrong biggest disgrace since crows missed pav

Postby Trader » Tue Oct 23, 2012 5:00 pm

If I understand it correctly (which I might not), the main reason he didn't get done was cause with the help of Dr Ferrari, they were "micro-doping", where basically rather than taking a full hit every 3 or 4 days, they would get smaller doses on a daily basis. This allows their readings to remain relatively constant rather than the peaks and troughs you get with conventional doping, which was one of the main things the anti-doping agencies look for.
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Re: Lance Armstrong biggest disgrace since crows missed pav

Postby scoob » Tue Oct 23, 2012 5:21 pm

Trader wrote:If I understand it correctly (which I might not), the main reason he didn't get done was cause with the help of Dr Ferrari, they were "micro-doping", where basically rather than taking a full hit every 3 or 4 days, they would get smaller doses on a daily basis. This allows their readings to remain relatively constant rather than the peaks and troughs you get with conventional doping, which was one of the main things the anti-doping agencies look for.


And you can then blame it on a cream for saddle sores or contaminated meat
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Re: Lance Armstrong biggest disgrace since crows missed pav

Postby Q. » Tue Oct 23, 2012 7:01 pm

The sad thing is, he was a freak anyway and good enough to win without the micro-advantage gained from PEDs.
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Lance Armstrong biggest disgrace since crows missed pav

Postby test » Tue Oct 23, 2012 7:13 pm

If he was good enough to win without them why didn't he? More then that, with 7 wins, why not have a crack at one clean to see if he could do it? He felt he had to cheat to beat his competitors, he wasn't superior to them.
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Re: Lance Armstrong biggest disgrace since crows missed pav

Postby cheetah » Tue Oct 23, 2012 7:20 pm

Can we start a class action and sue Armstrong for money spent on books, merchandise, emotional trauma, "the lucky seven, sent from heaven"
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Re: Lance Armstrong biggest disgrace since crows missed pav

Postby Q. » Tue Oct 23, 2012 7:44 pm

test wrote:If he was good enough to win without them why didn't he? More then that, with 7 wins, why not have a crack at one clean to see if he could do it? He felt he had to cheat to beat his competitors, he wasn't superior to them.


The culture of doping during that era of cycling. He fell in line with everyone else.
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Lance Armstrong biggest disgrace since crows missed pav

Postby test » Tue Oct 23, 2012 7:49 pm

Q. wrote:
test wrote:If he was good enough to win without them why didn't he? More then that, with 7 wins, why not have a crack at one clean to see if he could do it? He felt he had to cheat to beat his competitors, he wasn't superior to them.


The culture of doping during that era of cycling. He fell in line with everyone else.


Yeah I get that, I just wish if he had the ability to beat them clean that he did it. The guy did a lot of good for people but its forever tarnished now.
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Re: Lance Armstrong biggest disgrace since crows missed pav

Postby Squids » Tue Oct 23, 2012 8:23 pm

No "PROOF" he didn't beat them clean.
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Re: Lance Armstrong biggest disgrace since crows missed pav

Postby whufc » Tue Oct 23, 2012 8:31 pm

Squids wrote:No "PROOF" he didn't beat them clean.


Do people realistically think he didn't cheat.

With all these riders coming out and admitting they took drugs its makes his feat of seven straight virtually impossible against the juiced up competitors.

He was a drug cheat, he is going to come out this the worse of them all, the worse part is most of competitors were probably cheats as well.

It's sad we never here an answer from lance due to the threat of legal action if he ever admits to anything
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Re: Lance Armstrong biggest disgrace since crows missed pav

Postby PPLions » Tue Oct 23, 2012 8:32 pm

My mate Kai is basically a professional cyclist and says most cyclists at the elite level think Lance would have won several TDF even without performance enhancing drugs
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Lance Armstrong biggest disgrace since crows missed pav

Postby test » Tue Oct 23, 2012 8:32 pm

PPLions wrote:My mate Kai is basically a professional cyclist and says most cyclists at the elite level think Lance would have won several TDF even without performance enhancing drugs


Then he should of done exactly that.
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