Grade Cricket

[Phantom Gossiper]

Generally the whites are bottom age kids of the age group (12 years for u/14, just turned 14 for under16) now if I had a son that age I would rather him play whites SACA cricket than have him ball his eyes out because some fat prick from the Northern suburbs sledged him because he put a half volley through the covers for 4...

If your son started balling his eyes out because some fat pricks sledges him for smacking a 4 through the covers i'd be asking questions

[daysofourlives]

Get rid of the whites all together.

Junior cricket in adelaide in general is dying..

I agree, get the best local talent to aspire for the red's or play seniors earlier if they want to play in the afternoon.

Yep kids would learn more playing against men rather than in the White comp. Push a handful into minimum C grade and get rid of Whites. Those that dont make the top U16 side can play and learn more playing senior cricket for their original junior club

they would learn nothing playing in the senior B and C divisions of turf cricket except how to slog and sledge the batsman...

Generally the whites are bottom age kids of the age group (12 years for u/14, just turned 14 for under16) now if I had a son that age I would rather him play whites SACA cricket than have him ball his eyes out because some fat prick from the Northern suburbs sledged him because he put a half volley through the covers for 4...

And maybe thats half the problem, kids are not getting exposed to a bit of sledging and therefore are very thin skinned and mentally weak at higher levels.

[Lightning McQueen]

they would learn nothing playing in the senior B and C divisions of turf cricket except how to slog and sledge the batsman...

Generally the whites are bottom age kids of the age group (12 years for u/14, just turned 14 for under16) now if I had a son that age I would rather him play whites SACA cricket than have him ball his eyes out because some fat prick from the Northern suburbs sledged him because he put a half volley through the covers for 4...

Plenty of kids come through the ranks in the northern suburbs mate, no need to be stereotypical, they are human still. There's more laugh's and comradeship in the lower PDCA grade's than what there is haste.

[heater31]

[quote="mickey"]Get rid of the whites all together.

Junior cricket in adelaide in general is dying..

I agree, get the best local talent to aspire for the red's or play seniors earlier if they want to play in the afternoon.

Yep kids would learn more playing against men rather than in the White comp. Push a handful into minimum C grade and get rid of Whites. Those that dont make the top U16 side can play and learn more playing senior cricket for their original junior club

they would learn nothing playing in the senior B and C divisions of turf cricket except how to slog and sledge the batsman...

Generally the whites are bottom age kids of the age group (12 years for u/14, just turned 14 for under16) now if I had a son that age I would rather him play whites SACA cricket than have him ball his eyes out because some fat prick from the Northern suburbs sledged him because he put a half volley through the covers for 4...

And maybe thats half the problem, kids are not getting exposed to a bit of sledging and therefore are very thin skinned and mentally weak at higher levels.[/quote]

Still should not be subjected to a verbal barrage from an adult that should know when to pull his head in.

Kids still sledge no matter the age group. But adults should pick on somebody their own size and bully the smaller person just because the kid is a better cricketer than they are.

[beeroclock]

Port Adelaide have officially forfieted the rest of the season for the U16 white grade. They clearly havent even tried to attract players and the club has definately gone backwards when it seemed they were improving.

They are offering nothing towards improving cricket in this state, while the majority of the other clubs are actively seeking the best talent in their zone, looking to improve the standard of coaching and the quality of training and playing facilities in an effort to bring through future talent.

Zones you can pick from are ridiculous.
Example: Prospects is Broken Hill. Who the f??k is going to come down and play from there on a weekly basis.
SACA must have an agenda to finish some clubs off.
Other clubs are dealt with gift zones to recruit.
Whole set up is a joke.

[mickey]

Get rid of the whites all together.

Junior cricket in adelaide in general is dying..

I agree, get the best local talent to aspire for the red's or play seniors earlier if they want to play in the afternoon.

Yep kids would learn more playing against men rather than in the White comp. Push a handful into minimum C grade and get rid of Whites. Those that dont make the top U16 side can play and learn more playing senior cricket for their original junior club

they would learn nothing playing in the senior B and C divisions of turf cricket except how to slog and sledge the batsman...

Generally the whites are bottom age kids of the age group (12 years for u/14, just turned 14 for under16) now if I had a son that age I would rather him play whites SACA cricket than have him ball his eyes out because some fat prick from the Northern suburbs sledged him because he put a half volley through the covers for 4...

If he isn't good to play reds, what's stopping you taking him to play in the under 15/17s in the turf comp on a Sunday... they get proper umpires, play every week on turf..

[daysofourlives]

Port Adelaide have officially forfieted the rest of the season for the U16 white grade. They clearly havent even tried to attract players and the club has definately gone backwards when it seemed they were improving.

They are offering nothing towards improving cricket in this state, while the majority of the other clubs are actively seeking the best talent in their zone, looking to improve the standard of coaching and the quality of training and playing facilities in an effort to bring through future talent.

Zones you can pick from are ridiculous.
Example: Prospects is Broken Hill. Who the f??k is going to come down and play from there on a weekly basis.
SACA must have an agenda to finish some clubs off.
Other clubs are dealt with gift zones to recruit.
Whole set up is a joke.

Let's hope so

[Dogwatcher]

When the losers are the winners, Port Adelaide's under 14s triumph despite 555 against them:

http://wp.me/p1Tnfg-RJ

[whufc]

Why not have two divisions then no clubs have to go or is that to simple!

[whufc]

When the losers are the winners, Port Adelaide's under 14s triumph despite 555 against them:

http://wp.me/p1Tnfg-RJ

Great feel good story, they will get there's back when there playing in there rightful age group

[mickey]

When the losers are the winners, Port Adelaide's under 14s triumph despite 555 against them:

http://wp.me/p1Tnfg-RJ

Great feel good story, they will get there's back when there playing in there rightful age group

Correct there whufc.. would be interesting to put that Sturt team into bowl against an U/17 team and see how they go!

[The Dark Knight]

When the losers are the winners, Port Adelaide's under 14s triumph despite 555 against them:

http://wp.me/p1Tnfg-RJ

Great story and well done Bazza1!

[Footy Smart]

If he isn't good to play reds, what's stopping you taking him to play in the under 15/17s in the turf comp on a Sunday... they get proper umpires, play every week on turf.

So do 16 whites Mickey, and many reds and whites players do play back at their community club on the Sunday. They also get to train of turf 2 nights a week, have access to quality coaching (in the most part) and push for selection in the reds.

There is a big difference in batting technique in particular when comparing a kid who has been involved at a grade club since he was 12 than a kid who comes to a grade club as a 15 year old. There will always be an exception to the rule with a truly natural young player.

The notion that a kid would be better off playing against men is so far off the mark especially in a lower grade ATCA or PDCA comp. They would learn nothing, gain nothing but bad habits, young leg spinners would be non-existent.

The junior system is fine; if clubs wanna do the work, provide quality coaches (not parents), run trials and ID talent from community clubs - the best kids are identified, provided with good coaching and kept in the system while developing be that in the white or reds grades.

[Jetters]

If he isn't good to play reds, what's stopping you taking him to play in the under 15/17s in the turf comp on a Sunday... they get proper umpires, play every week on turf.

So do 16 whites Mickey, and many reds and whites players do play back at their community club on the Sunday. They also get to train of turf 2 nights a week, have access to quality coaching (in the most part) and push for selection in the reds.

There is a big difference in batting technique in particular when comparing a kid who has been involved at a grade club since he was 12 than a kid who comes to a grade club as a 15 year old. There will always be an exception to the rule with a truly natural young player.

The notion that a kid would be better off playing against men is so far off the mark especially in a lower grade ATCA or PDCA comp. They would learn nothing, gain nothing but bad habits, young leg spinners would be non-existent.

The junior system is fine; if clubs wanna do the work, provide quality coaches (not parents), run trials and ID talent from community clubs - the best kids are identified, provided with good coaching and kept in the system while developing be that in the white or reds grades.

Agree, need to keep the whites comp!

There are so many kids who do not get picked in the reds due to physical development rather than talent. Different players mature at different rates. You not want to start losing talented kids from your district club for no reason.

The difference between a junior set up at a turf club and district club is huge.

[Jetters]

When the losers are the winners, Port Adelaide's under 14s triumph despite 555 against them:

http://wp.me/p1Tnfg-RJ

Great feel good story, they will get there's back when there playing in there rightful age group

Correct there whufc.. would be interesting to put that Sturt team into bowl against an U/17 team and see how they go!

what a wank.

Most 14 players aren't in high school.

Why would our 14 B grade play against an u17 team?

Not a great feel good story, good on them for sticking at it, no question that shows some character.

Maybe you guys could get together and whip up some participation certificates for them each week

[Tiger Couple]

From personal experience I came through the District System at Southern Districts many years ago now.

Age 11 - Made Ray Sutton Shield and played in the Development Team that played in the U/14 SCA Comp.
Age 12 - Ray Sutton Shield and played U/14 Whites and trained with U/16 Squad and played 2 x U/16 White games.
Age 13 - Moved up into the U/16 Whites and played whole season there.
Age 14 - First 3 games in U/16 Whites then remainder of year in U/16 Reds. First time I had played Reds cricket.
Age 15 - Alternated between U/16 Red and D Grade for first few games then stayed in D Grade. Played Shell Shield (Bank SA)
Age 16 - Started the year and finished year in C Grade and played middle part in B Grade.

It wasn't until my 4th season in the District system that I played a Reds game have skipped U/14 Reds to go up a year early. Playing in Whites cricket helped my cricket and fast tracked me through the grades. I have not seen the standard of Whites cricket but back in the day it was a very good standard. With no Whites it would make it harder to fast track players while also rewarding kids that are performing at Community Club level with a game.

For the Development of the game and players you need to have Whites cricket from my experience.

[beeroclock]

If he isn't good to play reds, what's stopping you taking him to play in the under 15/17s in the turf comp on a Sunday... they get proper umpires, play every week on turf.

So do 16 whites Mickey, and many reds and whites players do play back at their community club on the Sunday. They also get to train of turf 2 nights a week, have access to quality coaching (in the most part) and push for selection in the reds.

There is a big difference in batting technique in particular when comparing a kid who has been involved at a grade club since he was 12 than a kid who comes to a grade club as a 15 year old. There will always be an exception to the rule with a truly natural young player.

The notion that a kid would be better off playing against men is so far off the mark especially in a lower grade ATCA or PDCA comp. They would learn nothing, gain nothing but bad habits, young leg spinners would be non-existent.

The junior system is fine; if clubs wanna do the work, provide quality coaches (not parents), run trials and ID talent from community clubs - the best kids are identified, provided with good coaching and kept in the system while developing be that in the white or reds grades.

Long way for Prospect to go and watch community cricket and talent id in Broken Hill.
There's so few teams they all play Saturday.
Recruiting areas need to be divied up evenly.

[Shark_Hunter]

Uni 6/330+ again! More runs for Cooper?

[Muffler]

When the losers are the winners, Port Adelaide's under 14s triumph despite 555 against them:

http://wp.me/p1Tnfg-RJ

Great feel good story, they will get there's back when there playing in there rightful age group

Correct there whufc.. would be interesting to put that Sturt team into bowl against an U/17 team and see how they go!

Yeah i disagree with this, Sturt are playing against a team suppost to be the same age levels. The age of the team they play against is not their fault and whilst it is great for the young fellas running around atm it may be a detriment to them come next year if results like this do happen. Whilst you say how they will go against an U/17 team maybe how will they go against Port Adelaide Reds team instead?

[BMAC]

Id just like to know my opinion in on this u14's white thing. The game where sturt hit 555, surely the coach wouldve retired them at 100, to give everyone else a hit, then sent them back in once everyone had a bat! I remeber playing u13's school boys, we'd retire at 30, then everyone else would have a hit, then if time youd go back in!
At that age level its about encouraging all kids to play and enjoy the game. Not let 2 players dominate week after week. Soon they will find themselves with kids losing interest as they arent getting a fair go! The kids arent playing for sheep station FFS!
I did see sturt u14's white yesterday hit 4 dec 284!
Ive coached before and seen it with certain club. Their best 11 will play and it will be the same batting and bowling order! Every week it was the same names in the paper. Ive seen parents take their kids away during a game, when they have found at they are batting in the tail again, bowling last or 12th man again!

NO WONDER WHY JUNIOR CRICKET IN SOUTH AUSTRALIA IS STRUGGLING!
Ive had mates who have played district u14's, u16's and gone back to their local club to play u15's & u17's. They dont make a score or take wickets in the reds, dropped to the whites or sent back to local club. Then start performing, oh come back to the reds, then the circle starts again! One mate in particular, went back to his local club for juniors then went back to district. Had personal success with a couple hundreds in lower grades, a 9 fa 17 and the run-out. Cracked into the A grade side, but the commitment to play grade cricket become too much due to his work commitment so he quit and returned to local club.