central put on notice

[bayman]

i believe that the central hierachy have been put on notice (not that it is their fault) that if 'trouble persists' in night games that central will not be involved in any night games in the future, furthermore that if it did continue the sanfl will deduct premiership points from them in a stance to curb it out

now if it got to the stage of banning the club from night games what happens when eventually we have night finals ?

[schimma]

SANFL is not a English soccer game, they should clean there act up.

[Dogwatcher]

Schimma - you tell us what you mean by cleaning their act up? Then we'll see if you've actually got anything sensible to say.

There was no trouble at the North game to start the season - except for the flares. Get rid of them by all accounts. But what else needs to be cleaned up?

I would suggest a better security presence at known trouble spots would also help. Security seemed few and far between on Friday night. I note that at rock festivals/concerts the organisers have to have 1 per 100 punters expected - that's for licencing. What's the requirement at a football game? Would seem nowhere near that - as according to today's Tiser, Centrals have had security numbers beefed up for 12 for Saturday night's game against Port. I would consider that to be enough for a normal day game.

Also - when the brawl did errupt in the third quarter on Friday night - security seemed very slow to move to get involved. I saw a guy at the northern end dawdling to get there. By the time he would've got there, the Dogs were celebrating their fifth final quarter goal.

And...just who were the 'supporters' who started this fracas on Friday night?

[spell_check]

Also - when the brawl did errupt in the third quarter on Friday night - security seemed very slow to move to get involved. I saw a guy at the northern end dawdling to get there. By the time he would've got there, the Dogs were celebrating their fifth final quarter goal.

Haha, I've long noticed they are quick to get kids off the oval (stamping their authority), but do almost nothing to prevent violence and are hopeless in stopping it when it happens.

I remember last year at Noarlunga when half the oval was vacant at half time and the other half for the mini league.

A couple of youngsters started to have a kick near the fence (not even inside the boundary line). The first red coat came over and told them politely to go back over. They did, but as soon as he turned his back, they jumped back onto the oval. The red coat came back, and told them get off, again politely. It happened again, and I think the red coat was enjoying the game too, was a good sport about it.

Anyway, that red coat walked away for good - went to some other part of the ground. The kids went back onto the oval. This time, another red coat comes marching from the other side of the oval, and he was really shitty with them. Gave them a spray. This particular red coat is the type of gutless prick I've come to know from them and the security guards.

[giffo]

Apparently, Norwood "beefed up" security to 6 on Friday night. What the SANFL need to do is gather some facts first. Perhaps Central supporters are always involved as we are seen as a target by most other clubs supporters. "Lets start a fight and they'll get the blame beacause they're Central's" seems to be in vogue.

[Dogwatcher]

Six was never going to be appropriate for a night game between any clubs.

[Sam_goUUUdogs]

Six was never going to be appropriate for a night game between any clubs.

and probably also when more people were expected than actually showed up, security always seem very slow to act, noticed it at Alberton with Sturt and Port a few weeks back.

[Wedgie]

Six was never going to be appropriate for a night game between any clubs.

and probably also when more people were expected than actually showed up, security always seem very slow to act, noticed it at Alberton with Sturt and Port a few weeks back.

Dunno about that, there was 400 more at the North v Norwood game the previous Friday night game, I was actually expecting a lot more to the Norwood v Central game, mind you I was expecting a lot more to all the games on the weekend.

[heater31]

Centrals do have a few bad eggs but so does every club. Why is it though that they always go the knuckle??? and how are Centrals going to stop it???? beats me although I do make this observation that they are always aged in the 18 to 25 age bracket walk around in groups of 3 or more and abuse the hell out of anyone in their sight with the foulest language that should not be heard in public and think that their shite dont stink.


I have never been to a game at Elizabeth nor am I likely to ever either





oh and they always have a can of bourbon in their hands there maybe is the key lads

[Sam_goUUUdogs]

Six was never going to be appropriate for a night game between any clubs.

and probably also when more people were expected than actually showed up, security always seem very slow to act, noticed it at Alberton with Sturt and Port a few weeks back.

Dunno about that, there was 400 more at the North v Norwood game the previous Friday night game, I was actually expecting a lot more to the Norwood v Central game, mind you I was expecting a lot more to all the games on the weekend.

yeah thats what i mean, they were expecting more than they got, and really 4 isnt enough for the crowd they did have.

[Wedgie]

yeah thats what i mean, they were expecting more than they got, and really 4 isnt enough for the crowd they did have.

Ahh, Im with you now, sorry I misread your comment.

[Wedgie]

But just on numbers, I don't know if that's the issue, I think its more of a quality problem than a quantity problem.

Ive seen a few scuffles over the years involving most clubs supporters but Ive never seen more than 1 scuffle happening at the same time at different parts of the oval.

Security (or police who are a lot better at it) should walk around the Oval a few times, get a feel for what's going on perhaps spending more time around the grog outlets and then concentrate their efforts around where trouble may occur. Out of every scuffle Ive ever seen Ive never seen security near an incident till its well and truly on or finished. I know at every incident I saw that it didn't take Einstein to work out something was in the air. Except for the Elizabeth incident last year I've alway's known something was going to go down and made sure my kids were nowhere near the area.

And I don't think the CDFC should be blamed or put on notice after this last incident, it wasn't their home ground and it wasn't their programming. I'd be suprised if the initial post is true.

[gillies8]

[quote="heater31"]


I have never been to a game at Elizabeth nor am I likely to ever either


Why is that? What do you think is going to happen to you?

The simple fact is ive rarely seen anyone get hit at the footy in 20 odd years of supporting the doggies and ive never seen anyone get hit that wasnt being a D*** head!
Mouth off by all meens but be aware there are peanuts out there and if your going to give someone some stick hope like most of us they'll have a dig back and leave it at that, but there is a chance they may have a crack. So who's at fault? The dick who mouths off, or the dick who decides to go the biff?

[Sojourner]

Central have done a lot more to promote the SANFL than the current management of the SANFL have. Rather than come out making stupid statements and threats to the Central football club, the SANFL management would do well to pull their heads in and let Central work out the best way to deal with the problem.

People clearly dont like the fact that Central have gone from being a celler dweller to the most supported club in the SANFL and I have no doubt that the current hysteria is related directly to that. Get used to it folks, the doggies are going to be at the top of the ladder for a few more years yet!

[zipzap]

A good decision I am sure. Cornsey has been going on about it since Friday so it must be right because he says it's true. Not that he's been out to Elizabeth in 20 years, but hey, Nicole doesn't live in Boothby either.

[Aerie]

It's a pity the actions of a few can tarnish a whole club, or the whole league for that matter. Security should be tighter. Foul language with aggressive behavior should be sent out of the ground straight away. Maybe the SANFL can have a dickhead friendly area where they can all congregate and beat the bejesus out of each other without disturbing the 99% of people that are there to watch the footy and have a good time.

[dogs01]

I agree this sort of thing needs to be stamped out, but why are centrals solely to blame,where is the main trouble?, not elizabeth but Norwood oval.There has been more incidents at Norwood oval than at elizabeth in the past.

Like people have said these people did not have any colours on, so they could be there just to cause trouble and not support either side.
What are centrals suppose to do? I would be interested in seeing any suggestions.

[stampy]

everytime there is trouble at cdfc matches all these supporters go up in arms about victimisation and all that other claptrap about other clubs having bad supporters and the like ffs! even kris grant is admitting to it albeit about 20 years too late! i attended 11 matches last year and the only time i saw any trouble was against bloody centrals, its a combination of lower class mentality - let your fists do the talking with a mix of the old pommy soccer mentality, we dont need nor want this crap at our games where it gets to the point that people like wedgie (who would go to the north pole to watch north) state that they wont attend elizabeth oval serious questions need addressing

[TroyGFC]

I must say that never have I seen trouble at Elizebeth oval from where i stand near Northern end beer van

[giffo]

everytime there is trouble at cdfc matches all these supporters go up in arms about victimisation and all that other claptrap about other clubs having bad supporters and the like ffs! even kris grant is admitting to it albeit about 20 years too late! i attended 11 matches last year and the only time i saw any trouble was against bloody centrals, its a combination of lower class mentality - let your fists do the talking with a mix of the old pommy soccer mentality, we dont need nor want this crap at our games where it gets to the point that people like wedgie (who would go to the north pole to watch north) state that they wont attend elizabeth oval serious questions need addressing

It's this sort of personal attacks that start all the trouble. I personally am a 6th generation Aussie, live in the Western suburbs and have a combined income of between 50-75k. Really fit all your stereo types, hey Einstein! As most of you don't have the intelligence to come up with anything new as you can no longer use the "how many flags have you won" line, perhaps you should put more effort into coming up with something new then dragging out the same old crap.