Duromine vs Professional athlete

[Johno6]

my dad can beat up your dad!

[Squids]

By the sounds of it, he's also exercising a lot more then the average man too. Its not like he's sitting around eating chips. I think the anti-Duro people should wait to see the results and how he does once he's off the meds to shitcan the bloke for trying something to improve his life.

I'm shitcan the bloke, him losing weight is a great thing that no one can deny. But it is being made out to be the wonder drug, and unfortunately you have people like squids that thinks it's the only way to lose weight.

Where have I said that? I have just been defending Dragos use of it. I am the one who can see there are several ways of losing weight. Drago is using a three prong approach through appetite supressent to start with once he becomes accustomed to his new diet and exercise regime he stops using the duromine.

[scoob]

Something added to complete a thing, make up for a deficiency, or extend or strengthen the whole

So where in your diet do you get Phentermine?

FFS you are dumber than I thought - read my original sentence again.

[HH3]

By the sounds of it, he's also exercising a lot more then the average man too. Its not like he's sitting around eating chips. I think the anti-Duro people should wait to see the results and how he does once he's off the meds to shitcan the bloke for trying something to improve his life.

I'm shitcan the bloke, him losing weight is a great thing that no one can deny. But it is being made out to be the wonder drug, and unfortunately you have people like squids that thinks it's the only way to lose weight.

I dont think one person has said Duromine is the ONLY way to lose weight. How I read this thread is theres a few people that seem to be talking down to Cheeta and Drago for using it. Theres also people that think Drago should be able to use what he thinks he needs to to lose the weight. Or at least kick start it. Nobody knows Dragos body as well as Drago does. Maybe his weight was effecting his ability to exercise enough to lose weight. Maybe the weight on his joints (i think i read he had knee recons) effected that and he needed help just to shed a few kgs to be able to exercise without doing more damage.

[OnSong]

my dad can beat up your dad!

With duromine!

[scoob]

my dad can beat up your dad!

With duromine!

My Dad is a body builder!

[Jase]

In get a bit sick of the "all you need is a calorie deficit and exercise and you can easily drop 1.5-2Kg per week" bullsh1t

My wife due to some medication she was on stacked in a heap of weight. She is now going to the gym 3-4 times a week plus walking every day, managing her calorie intake with the help of an app and has lost maybe half a kilo in 2 months.

So it isn't as easy as you seem to think for everyone And they do need that extra help...

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How does she know her calories are right? Dropping half a kilo in 2 months then there is something wrong, maybe the medication is still having a effect on the body. But no app person or website can tell you what your daily calorie needs are. There is some many things that happen in the body that dictate what your daily energy needs are. Yes you can get a rough ball park of where you need to be but the person themselves need to adjust them to find out.

She knows due to the app that she is using and the eating plan she has been given by a nutritionist...

So she should be dropping weight but she isn't, so it isn't as easy as a calorie deficit and exercise as you say and perhaps some people do need extra help in the form of medication to lose weight.



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[Q.]

Wut? It is his regime. It's chemically suppressing his appetite and causing him to eat less.

By the sounds of it, he's also exercising a lot more then the average man too. Its not like he's sitting around eating chips. I think the anti-Duro people should wait to see the results and how he does once he's off the meds to shitcan the bloke for trying something to improve his life.

Not shit-canning the bloke.

You've lost a similar amount of weight to Drago in similar time period. You did it without Duromine. It's not a wonder drug like it's being made out to be.

Well you are, because you said his regime IS supressing his appetite, without mentioning the exercise he's doing. Its not his whole strategy. And Cheeta has said numerous times that they are planning how to keep it up once hes off the Duro's, so they arent blinding using it and expecting it to do all the work.

Given that weight loss is primarily about dietary changes I'd say the Duromine is playing a very large role.

I wrote a number of times already that I hope he reaches his goal.

[heater31]

In get a bit sick of the "all you need is a calorie deficit and exercise and you can easily drop 1.5-2Kg per week" bullsh1t

My wife due to some medication she was on stacked in a heap of weight. She is now going to the gym 3-4 times a week plus walking every day, managing her calorie intake with the help of an app and has lost maybe half a kilo in 2 months.

So it isn't as easy as you seem to think for everyone And they do need that extra help...

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How does she know her calories are right? Dropping half a kilo in 2 months then there is something wrong, maybe the medication is still having a effect on the body. But no app person or website can tell you what your daily calorie needs are. There is some many things that happen in the body that dictate what your daily energy needs are. Yes you can get a rough ball park of where you need to be but the person themselves need to adjust them to find out.

She knows due to the app that she is using and the eating plan she has been given by a nutritionist...

So she should be dropping weight but she isn't, so it isn't as easy as a calorie deficit and exercise as you say and perhaps some people do need extra help in the form of medication to lose weight.



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Must be some other hidden medical problem. I'm no expert though. My cousin had a similar problem followed fad diets, professional plans and same thing. Then discovered she had diabetes and with the correct diabetic plan some action was seen on the bathroom scales.

[kickinit]

Something added to complete a thing, make up for a deficiency, or extend or strengthen the whole

So where in your diet do you get Phentermine?

FFS you are dumber than I thought - read my original sentence again.

you obvisously don't understand supplements if your trying to compare a medical drug to a supplement that is found in our everyday food. Supplements aren't going to achieve anything with out diet and exercise. they are there to help you achieve your macros for the day when you know you are not going to hit them. So i'm not talking about the young kid in the gym that all he does is cheat and biceps then drinks a protein drink after and thinks he'll get big. Would I be able to do a cut without supplements yes I could, would I be able to do a bulk without supplements no way I could ever eat that much, and that's why we use supplements to help us achieve those impossible goals.

[kickinit]

In get a bit sick of the "all you need is a calorie deficit and exercise and you can easily drop 1.5-2Kg per week" bullsh1t

My wife due to some medication she was on stacked in a heap of weight. She is now going to the gym 3-4 times a week plus walking every day, managing her calorie intake with the help of an app and has lost maybe half a kilo in 2 months.

So it isn't as easy as you seem to think for everyone And they do need that extra help...

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How does she know her calories are right? Dropping half a kilo in 2 months then there is something wrong, maybe the medication is still having a effect on the body. But no app person or website can tell you what your daily calorie needs are. There is some many things that happen in the body that dictate what your daily energy needs are. Yes you can get a rough ball park of where you need to be but the person themselves need to adjust them to find out.

She knows due to the app that she is using and the eating plan she has been given by a nutritionist...


So she should be dropping weight but she isn't, so it isn't as easy as a calorie deficit and exercise as you say and perhaps some people do need extra help in the form of medication to lose weight.



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the medication can still be playing a part if she isn't losing weight. Has she been back to see the nutritionist? Yeh but because the nutritionist has given her a eating plan doesn't mean it's right for her. There's so much inside the body that effects weight loss that it does take a bit to find your maintenance calories. Even the nutrionist should of told her that she may have to adjust her calories.

[scoob]

Something added to complete a thing, make up for a deficiency, or extend or strengthen the whole

So where in your diet do you get Phentermine?

FFS you are dumber than I thought - read my original sentence again.

you obvisously don't understand supplements if your trying to compare a medical drug to a supplement that is found in our everyday food. Supplements aren't going to achieve anything with out diet and exercise. they are there to help you achieve your macros for the day when you know you are not going to hit them. So i'm not talking about the young kid in the gym that all he does is cheat and biceps then drinks a protein drink after and thinks he'll get big. Would I be able to do a cut without supplements yes I could, would I be able to do a bulk without supplements no way I could ever eat that much, and that's why we use supplements to help us achieve those impossible goals.

You obviously don't understand the meaning of the word supplement, despite posting a link to it. Drago is using Duromine to supplement his weight loss regime, just the way you use supplements to bulk. End of story.

[heater31]

Something added to complete a thing, make up for a deficiency, or extend or strengthen the whole

So where in your diet do you get Phentermine?

FFS you are dumber than I thought - read my original sentence again.

you obvisously don't understand supplements if your trying to compare a medical drug to a supplement that is found in our everyday food. Supplements aren't going to achieve anything with out diet and exercise. they are there to help you achieve your macros for the day when you know you are not going to hit them. So i'm not talking about the young kid in the gym that all he does is cheat and biceps then drinks a protein drink after and thinks he'll get big. Would I be able to do a cut without supplements yes I could, would I be able to do a bulk without supplements no way I could ever eat that much, and that's why we use supplements to help us achieve those impossible goals.

You obviously don't understand the meaning of the word supplement, despite posting a link to it. Drago is using Duromine to supplement his weight loss regime, just the way you use supplements to bulk. End of story.

Don't agree. Duromine is suppressing appetite.

Protein powder supplements your diet so you don't have to eat half a cow every day.

[Q.]

Exactly, Duromine is a psychoactive drug.

Kickinit's list is basically food.

[scoob]

So it's not about having a helping hand in achieving a goal, it's about how natural the helping hand is?

[Q.]

Nah not really.

Duromine is a shortcut and the pitfall of that is falling into old habits once the cycle is over, that's about it really. Doesn't seem like Drago will have that problem though.

[HH3]

Nah not really.

Duromine is a shortcut and the pitfall of that is falling into old habits once the cycle is over, that's about it really. Doesn't seem like Drago will have that problem though.

So why are people arguing with Cheeta about using it?

[kickinit]

Nah not really.

Duromine is a shortcut and the pitfall of that is falling into old habits once the cycle is over, that's about it really. Doesn't seem like Drago will have that problem though.

So why are people arguing with Cheeta about using it?

Go back to the start and I think you'll find your answer

[kickinit]

Something added to complete a thing, make up for a deficiency, or extend or strengthen the whole

So where in your diet do you get Phentermine?

FFS you are dumber than I thought - read my original sentence again.

you obvisously don't understand supplements if your trying to compare a medical drug to a supplement that is found in our everyday food. Supplements aren't going to achieve anything with out diet and exercise. they are there to help you achieve your macros for the day when you know you are not going to hit them. So i'm not talking about the young kid in the gym that all he does is cheat and biceps then drinks a protein drink after and thinks he'll get big. Would I be able to do a cut without supplements yes I could, would I be able to do a bulk without supplements no way I could ever eat that much, and that's why we use supplements to help us achieve those impossible goals.

You obviously don't understand the meaning of the word supplement, despite posting a link to it. Drago is using Duromine to supplement his weight loss regime, just the way you use supplements to bulk. End of story.

Does that mean I supplement with my car as it helps me get to the gym?

[Johno6]

im starting to lose track on who is and who isnt a troll on this site anymore....