Undecided

[HH3]

Its not so much about products to market, but to increase and hold market share.

Apple's main aim is to monopolise the market, something Microsoft have been experts at for over 30 years ... they started off as innovators and in some ways continue to do so, but their strategies are much different now than from the early days.

Oracle are experts at it as well in the commercial world.

The way they do this is by 'lock-in' ... that is, you are so entangled with their products and services that it's hard to go elsewhere. Couple that with the annihilation of competitors, leads to consumers not getting the best value out of the market.

Android, or 'open source' in general, does not operate on this premise.

The only reason Apple have shifted relatively recently is that (mainly) Samsung have dragged them kicking and screaming. through their own (and others) innovation.

As consumers, it's competition that drives products and services to match expectation.

Anyway, Centurion started this thread because he was undecided ... apparently he has decided now.

#whereiskickinit?

Probably doing push ups to look good at the grand opening of the new $2.5 million Apple Store in Rundle Mall.

[Dissident]

EVERY company tries to tie you in with various products that all link together, and make it seem beneficial to use them all. That's simple business. Apple are just way better at it than anyone else.

[kickinit]

Its not so much about products to market, but to increase and hold market share.

Apple's main aim is to monopolise the market, something Microsoft have been experts at for over 30 years ... they started off as innovators and in some ways continue to do so, but their strategies are much different now than from the early days.

Oracle are experts at it as well in the commercial world.

The way they do this is by 'lock-in' ... that is, you are so entangled with their products and services that it's hard to go elsewhere. Couple that with the annihilation of competitors, leads to consumers not getting the best value out of the market.

Android, or 'open source' in general, does not operate on this premise.

The only reason Apple have shifted relatively recently is that (mainly) Samsung have dragged them kicking and screaming. through their own (and others) innovation.

As consumers, it's competition that drives products and services to match expectation.

Anyway, Centurion started this thread because he was undecided ... apparently he has decided now.

yes but if the product simply doesn't work then you ain't going to be in business very long. you might get those first few customers but once it's out the product doesn't work and has a bad rep then you are pretty much done. apple and microsoft will always make products that won't suit everyone, but they do work and do what they are inteded to do or fixed pretty quick to do it.

[kickinit]

Its not so much about products to market, but to increase and hold market share.

Apple's main aim is to monopolise the market, something Microsoft have been experts at for over 30 years ... they started off as innovators and in some ways continue to do so, but their strategies are much different now than from the early days.

Oracle are experts at it as well in the commercial world.

The way they do this is by 'lock-in' ... that is, you are so entangled with their products and services that it's hard to go elsewhere. Couple that with the annihilation of competitors, leads to consumers not getting the best value out of the market.

Android, or 'open source' in general, does not operate on this premise.

The only reason Apple have shifted relatively recently is that (mainly) Samsung have dragged them kicking and screaming. through their own (and others) innovation.

As consumers, it's competition that drives products and services to match expectation.

Anyway, Centurion started this thread because he was undecided ... apparently he has decided now.

#whereiskickinit?

Probably doing push ups to look good at the grand opening of the new $2.5 million Apple Store in Rundle Mall.

didn't it get knocked back because it didn't suit the mall image?

[dedja]

It's happening ... already starting to recruit staff

[HH3]

Nope. Got confirmed last month that they're coming.

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/sout ... 6580826214

[Dissident]

Was confirmed long before that.

[dedja]

EVERY company tries to tie you in with various products that all link together, and make it seem beneficial to use them all. That's simple business. Apple are just way better at it than anyone else.

True, just highlighting that market share doesn't necessarily equate 1:1 to consumer satisfaction

[Dissident]

Of course it doesn't. But the more customers you have, the more customers you have that won't be happy. It happens.

[HH3]

Was confirmed long before that.

The Rundle Mall Management Authority last month confirmed Apple was coming to the mall, ending a year of speculation.

[Dissident]

Totally irrelevant anyway

In this day and age, you can change from whatever you want, TO whatever you want.
It's silly to say otherwise.

Ahhh I remember the days when you weren't judged by the phone you were using...

[Dissident]

Was confirmed long before that.

The Rundle Mall Management Authority last month confirmed Apple was coming to the mall, ending a year of speculation.

It was confirmed from other sources long before that

[scoob]

Its not so much about products to market, but to increase and hold market share.

Apple's main aim is to monopolise the market, something Microsoft have been experts at for over 30 years ... they started off as innovators and in some ways continue to do so, but their strategies are much different now than from the early days.

Oracle are experts at it as well in the commercial world.

The way they do this is by 'lock-in' ... that is, you are so entangled with their products and services that it's hard to go elsewhere. Couple that with the annihilation of competitors, leads to consumers not getting the best value out of the market.

Android, or 'open source' in general, does not operate on this premise.

The only reason Apple have shifted relatively recently is that (mainly) Samsung have dragged them kicking and screaming. through their own (and others) innovation.

As consumers, it's competition that drives products and services to match expectation.

Anyway, Centurion started this thread because he was undecided ... apparently he has decided now.

#whereiskickinit?

Probably doing push ups to look good at the grand opening of the new $2.5 million Apple Store in Rundle Mall.

didn't it get knocked back because it didn't suit the mall image?

Image - like being public and open?

[kickinit]

It's about time we had one here

[scoob]

It's about time we had one here

Agreed, about time we are able to buy tech from like minded people without the ability to compare it anything else available in the market

[HH3]

I dont see the point on putting $2.5m into a shop thats gonna sell 4 products

[CENTURION]

bugger this, I don't want a phone anymore.

[dedja]

see all the trouble you've caused?

[scoob]

Apple sucks

END OF THREAD

[kickinit]

I dont see the point on putting $2.5m into a shop thats gonna sell 4 products

They sell more then 4 products