Power players leaving SANFL clubs to Magpies

[Jim05]

I actually blame the SANFL in all this.
This should if been prevented years ago, Port wanted to go to the AFL which is fair enough, the SANFL should of had the balls to say no problem just take all your sides out of the SANFL and we will redistribute the zones.
I still cant understand why the SANFL was so insistant that Port fielded a side in the SANFL

[beenreal]

que the usual port suspects coming out defending the move: "its their player they can do what they like with him" etc etc.... most of them dont even have the good grace to be embarrassed about they way their club is treating the league that helped port to have such a successful history. (with a couple of notable exceptions)

Any of you feel "embarrassed" for the way the SANFL treated the Magpies in shunting them off to Ethelton? Especially after demanding they remain in the competition. Oh that's right, that must have been OK.

Far from embarrassed, I care little (actually make that nothing) for the shrieking sensitivities of a bunch of largely anonymous pseudonyms, posting endless anti-Port Adelaide tirades on an Internet forum. Just being honest.

Our players should be playing for our club. And I'll write again, I don't give a rats what the Crows do.

[rod_rooster]

Young now officially a Magpie. Poor kid.

Why was he not In your best 22?

Seems strange on exposed AFL form.

It's easy to say he is in the best 21 players but the best 21 players together doesn't necessarily make the best side. Perhaps it was thought that the players selected to play the same role Young does were either in better form currently or better prepared based on match fitness.

[Jim05]

que the usual port suspects coming out defending the move: "its their player they can do what they like with him" etc etc.... most of them dont even have the good grace to be embarrassed about they way their club is treating the league that helped port to have such a successful history. (with a couple of notable exceptions)

Any of you feel "embarrassed" for the way the SANFL treated the Magpies in shunting them off to Ethelton? Especially after demanding they remain in the competition. Oh that's right, that must have been OK.

Far from embarrassed, I care little (actually make that nothing) for the shrieking sensitivities of a bunch of largely anonymous pseudonyms, posting endless anti-Port Adelaide tirades on an Internet forum. Just being honest.

Our players should be playing for our club. And I'll write again, I don't give a rats what the Crows do.

I agree on this as long as they dont play in this league.
Take all your players and piss off to the VFL

[Brodlach]

que the usual port suspects coming out defending the move: "its their player they can do what they like with him" etc etc.... most of them dont even have the good grace to be embarrassed about they way their club is treating the league that helped port to have such a successful history. (with a couple of notable exceptions)

Any of you feel "embarrassed" for the way the SANFL treated the Magpies in shunting them off to Ethelton? Especially after demanding they remain in the competition. Oh that's right, that must have been OK.

Far from embarrassed, I care little (actually make that nothing) for the shrieking sensitivities of a bunch of largely anonymous pseudonyms, posting endless anti-Port Adelaide tirades on an Internet forum. Just being honest.

Our players should be playing for our club. And I'll write again, I don't give a rats what the Crows do.

Well take your players from each club and go play in your own competition...simple. You lot have been playing with yourselves for years anyway

[rod_rooster]

Yet another reason to get rid of all AFL listed players from this comp.

Well the PAFC ones at a minimum....

Why do the Crows work with what they have got and not treat the host clubs like shit?

Its called professionalism, Ports administrative and football managing skills aren't even up to SANFL level let alone AFL level.

Absolute crap. When's the last time the Crows had to deal with their league standard players being wasted in the reserves?

The Crows generally don't make anywhere near the number of recruiting blunders as Port so it doesn't come up as often that they have a player they feel should be playing league that most other disagree about.

[TimmiesChin]

It's easy to say he is in the best 21 players but the best 21 players together doesn't necessarily make the best side. Perhaps it was thought that the players selected to play the same role Young does were either in better form currently or better prepared based on match fitness.

can't believe they would be better prepared than an AFL pre season of a player selected as AFL emergency the week before. Your initial statement makes me think he is best 21, but missing selection..... seems you have glut of players of his type in that case making the move seen reasonable.

Or perhaps port are being generous and paying to move all these players whose salaries we pay this year, rather than other clubs getting nothing next year when they all get moved anyway.

[TimmiesChin]

I agree on this as long as they dont play in this league.
Take all your players and piss off to the VFL

Sounds fair..... so long as you all no longer expect any revenue coming your way from the AFL licenses as well.

I'd imagine that means a cut to salary caps as a minimum, and losing 3/4 players per club from your list on top of that will make for an interesting comp.

[RustyCage]

[quote="Jim05"]Yet another reason to get rid of all AFL listed players from this comp.

Well the PAFC ones at a minimum....

Why do the Crows work with what they have got and not treat the host clubs like shit?

Its called professionalism, Ports administrative and football managing skills aren't even up to SANFL level let alone AFL level.

Absolute crap. When's the last time the Crows had to deal with their league standard players being wasted in the reserves?

The Crows generally don't make anywhere near the number of recruiting blunders as Port so it doesn't come up as often that they have a player they feel should be playing league that most other disagree about.[/quote]

Recruiting blunders are one thing (and yes, the crows have made as many stuff ups as port) and I have no issue with certain players playing in the reserves. I also have no issue with players who are playing league at other clubs and getting treated well there, staying at those clubs.

[Brodlach]

I agree on this as long as they dont play in this league.
Take all your players and piss off to the VFL

Sounds fair..... so long as you all no longer expect any revenue coming your way from the AFL licenses as well.

I'd imagine that means a cut to salary caps as a minimum, and losing 3/4 players per club from your list on top of that will make for an interesting comp.

With no SANFL support and extra travel costs Port would be bankrupt in no time. AFL will only tip in so much.

[Jim05]

I agree on this as long as they dont play in this league.
Take all your players and piss off to the VFL

Sounds fair..... so long as you all no longer expect any revenue coming your way from the AFL licenses as well.

I'd imagine that means a cut to salary caps as a minimum, and losing 3/4 players per club from your list on top of that will make for an interesting comp.

Well the licenses will be gone soon anyway.
We will get enough revenue from charging you to use AO and the sale of AAMI.
Dont mind losing a few players off the list, have plenty of depth in the Ressies.

[tipper]

que the usual port suspects coming out defending the move: "its their player they can do what they like with him" etc etc.... most of them dont even have the good grace to be embarrassed about they way their club is treating the league that helped port to have such a successful history. (with a couple of notable exceptions)

Any of you feel "embarrassed" for the way the SANFL treated the Magpies in shunting them off to Ethelton? Especially after demanding they remain in the competition. Oh that's right, that must have been OK.

Far from embarrassed, I care little (actually make that nothing) for the shrieking sensitivities of a bunch of largely anonymous pseudonyms, posting endless anti-Port Adelaide tirades on an Internet forum. Just being honest.

Our players should be playing for our club. And I'll write again, I don't give a rats what the Crows do.

lol, im disappointed that it took you that long.

what you still fail to realise is that while you dont care what the crows do, we dont care about the power. we care about our league, and we care that the power view it as their personal training ground. news flash, it isnt.

you want your players at yoru club, fine, have them all. but they wont be playing in the sanfl. have them run around every weekend with an internal trial for all i care. your attitude that the sanfl somehow owe the power something is disgraceful. and before you bring out your 80% claim, the sanfl are entitled to make money on their investment at footy park. they are the landlords there, and they set the rules, and decide on how much rent to charge. if the power dont like the rules, build your own afl standard stadium and you can make the rules the way you want. till then, stiff!

lol at the anonymous pseudonyms jibe, from another anonymous pseudonym ill happily pm you my real name, even my phone number if it will make you feel better, however i doubt it will mean anything to you, im just some random north supporter . and i hardly post "endless anti-Port Adelaide tirades", you must be getting me confused with someone else.

and i dont feel embarrased in the slightest over the whole ethelton saga. to begin with im too young, i didnt really follow any footy back then, but also recent history has shown that PAFC cant be trusted to stick to their word. the sanfl should have never allowed the maggies back to alberton, and they certainly shouldnt have allowed the "one port" merger. the power made all sorts of assurances (i note you didnt refute my recollection in the first paragraph of my post...) and they are going back on every one. **** them off out of our league effective immediately as far as i am concerned;. they have proven time and again they cant be trusted.

[rod_rooster]

It's easy to say he is in the best 21 players but the best 21 players together doesn't necessarily make the best side. Perhaps it was thought that the players selected to play the same role Young does were either in better form currently or better prepared based on match fitness.

can't believe they would be better prepared than an AFL pre season of a player selected as AFL emergency the week before. Your initial statement makes me think he is best 21, but missing selection..... seems you have glut of players of his type in that case making the move seen reasonable.

Or perhaps port are being generous and paying to move all these players whose salaries we pay this year, rather than other clubs getting nothing next year when they all get moved anyway.

I was just pointing out possibilities. I have no more idea than you on how the decision was made by the club but i strongly doubt they would have had him play 2's if they believed the league side would be better with him in it. And so what he was picked as an emergency the week before? Port have picked blokes in the past who a week earlier couldn't get a kick in the SANFL reserves. What Port Power do with selection has no relevance to an SANFL side picking what they feel is their best league team.

[dedja]

que the usual port suspects coming out defending the move: "its their player they can do what they like with him" etc etc.... most of them dont even have the good grace to be embarrassed about they way their club is treating the league that helped port to have such a successful history. (with a couple of notable exceptions)

Any of you feel "embarrassed" for the way the SANFL treated the Magpies in shunting them off to Ethelton? Especially after demanding they remain in the competition. Oh that's right, that must have been OK.

Far from embarrassed, I care little (actually make that nothing) for the shrieking sensitivities of a bunch of largely anonymous pseudonyms, posting endless anti-Port Adelaide tirades on an Internet forum. Just being honest.

Our players should be playing for our club. And I'll write again, I don't give a rats what the Crows do.

Tell someone who cares ...

[Booney]

I actually blame the SANFL in all this. This should if been prevented years ago, Port wanted to go to the AFL which is fair enough, the SANFL should of had the balls to say no problem just take all your sides out of the SANFL and we will redistribute the zones.
I still cant understand why the SANFL was so insistant that Port fielded a side in the SANFL

Bloody hell mate, careful making such a claim. You'll get beaten from pillar to post with the sort oif attitude.

[Brodlach]

I actually blame the SANFL in all this. This should if been prevented years ago, Port wanted to go to the AFL which is fair enough, the SANFL should of had the balls to say no problem just take all your sides out of the SANFL and we will redistribute the zones.
I still cant understand why the SANFL was so insistant that Port fielded a side in the SANFL

Bloody hell mate, careful making such a claim. You'll get beaten from pillar to post with the sort oif attitude.

What is your opinion on this Booney?

[Booney]

and i hardly post "endless anti-Port Adelaide tirades", you must be getting me confused with someone else.

Yeah, apologies for beenreal, he must have thought you were UK Fan.

[Jim05]

I actually blame the SANFL in all this. This should if been prevented years ago, Port wanted to go to the AFL which is fair enough, the SANFL should of had the balls to say no problem just take all your sides out of the SANFL and we will redistribute the zones.
I still cant understand why the SANFL was so insistant that Port fielded a side in the SANFL

Bloody hell mate, careful making such a claim. You'll get beaten from pillar to post with the sort oif attitude.

Ive maintained it since day dot.
Didnt care if it was Port or Norwood who wanted to go into the AFL my feelings would be the same. Once the decision was made the whole club needed to go. The SANFL board were/are a bunch of jellyfish

[TimmiesChin]

It's easy to say he is in the best 21 players but the best 21 players together doesn't necessarily make the best side. Perhaps it was thought that the players selected to play the same role Young does were either in better form currently or better prepared based on match fitness.

can't believe they would be better prepared than an AFL pre season of a player selected as AFL emergency the week before. Your initial statement makes me think he is best 21, but missing selection..... seems you have glut of players of his type in that case making the move seen reasonable.

Or perhaps port are being generous and paying to move all these players whose salaries we pay this year, rather than other clubs getting nothing next year when they all get moved anyway.

I was just pointing out possibilities. I have no more idea than you on how the decision was made by the club but i strongly doubt they would have had him play 2's if they believed the league side would be better with him in it. And so what he was picked as an emergency the week before? Port have picked blokes in the past who a week earlier couldn't get a kick in the SANFL reserves. What Port Power do with selection has no relevance to an SANFL side picking what they feel is their best league team.

That's a valid comment. The gray area comes about when port/the players interests and north's interests fall too far out of alignment. I don't know What that point is...

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[Booney]

I actually blame the SANFL in all this. This should if been prevented years ago, Port wanted to go to the AFL which is fair enough, the SANFL should of had the balls to say no problem just take all your sides out of the SANFL and we will redistribute the zones.I still cant understand why the SANFL was so insistant that Port fielded a side in the SANFL

Bloody hell mate, careful making such a claim. You'll get beaten from pillar to post with the sort oif attitude.

What is your opinion on this Booney?

How long have you got?

Ok. It is clear that the Magpies should not have all Power listed players playing for them, not at league level anyway...but I think next year things will change.

I hope the reserves debate is finalised with AFL listed Port players playing for the Magpies reserves and Adelaide listed players fielded in a team in the SANFL reserves, I think this would in all reality be the best outcome. Who really wants the Magpies out of the SANFL all together?

I'm biased so, although not as clear cut as beenreals comments, I'm along those lines.

I too think the SANFL needs to have something to say about the players being moved willy nilly, at least to confirm where we all stand.

Unfortunately I dont have the answers for all this, although I should only keep abreast of the comments on here and I'm sure someone will know it all.