Power players leaving SANFL clubs to Magpies

[Booney]

[am Bays]

[Booney]

[tipper]

and part of that contract is that they would assure the best interest of both clubs, which currently they are not doing. Face facts wedgie SANFL is dying it's already labeled as pathetic competition that will soon not be here or will basically be a amateur competition.

Umm dude, with West Lakes and half the income from the SMA the SANFL will be here and for a very long time.
Port on the other hand will be very lucky to see out the decade.
If the 2 AFL clubs get more people to Adelaide Oval be it 1 more or 1000 more to games then your contract is fulfilled and the SANFL continue to reap in the money.
The SANFL and its clubs OWN your dying club, enjoy it.
I do agree that the SANFL might in fact die one day if it had to keep propping up the power but that's all changing this year.
I promise to give you a wave from the members area next year.

west lakes is going to be a debt to the sanfl more sponsorship from aami, no more afl clubs paying for the staff working there. what would happen if the government, which own adelaide oval, sell it to the afl? The thing you have to remember is the more money the afl clubs makes the more the afl makes, the more the afl makes the bigger the bonus demitriou makes. He will make sure that the power are successful and will be around longer the sanfl.

missed the link where it showed the sma have an 80 year lease on adelaide oval did you? im sure if the afl are interested in taking on the lease after that they are welcome to put in a bid in 2090 sometime. too bad it will be way to late to save the tassie devils, oops i mean the power...

also the reason the power were spruiking adelaide oval as their great white hope was they expected a dramatic increase in attendance by relocating. that combined with the "clean" stadium and associated sponsorship winfall was supposed to increase their revenue and save the club. however it was pointed out by many on here that just relocation would not guarantee an increase in crowds and the projections were overly optimistic. now it is getting closer to the move date it seems the power themselves have started to wake up to what we have known all along, they just dont have the crowd pulling ability.

west lakes wont be a debt, they already have plans to dismantle most of the grandstands etc, which equals less maintenance costs. crows will still use it as a training base, there is rent right there, that will cover the groundskeepers, and the land at max basheer reserve will be developed, $$$$$. and the stadium can still be used by sanfl clubs. i reckon it should be fine.

just because you dont like the sanfl, doest mean they cant be a stakeholder with the stadium management authority. just because turbo tom is seeking legal advice, doesnt mean anything will change (ministers and government depts seek legal advice all the time, they even employ lawyers!!) the sanfl was given a 50% stake in the sma in exchange for allowing the crows and power to move to adelaide oval. after selling the licences, the teams can move to whatever stadium they like, however as i stated earlier, as the only two afl standard stadiums in adelaide are either controlled, or owned by the sanfl, so unless they build their own stadium (lol, with what money/land??) or move interstate they are stuck with the sanfl.

thanks for providing a guaranteed revenue stream for the sanfl Port, well, guaranteed for as long as you are still in this state and thanks for seeking your licence to be bought from the sanfl, it will guarantee millions less in expenditure, further helping the league to survive.

[smac]

Pretty sure the AFL have committed, long term, to scheduling all games at Adelaide Oval.

[Booney]

All these guarantees people are offering on here.I look forward to reviewing these predictions in the future.

[tipper]

kinda like the guarantees that the power offered during the "one port" merger? there will be no football dept links, the magpies wont be a default reserves side? it is only for admin sharing? how are all of those working out?

[whufc]

kinda like the guarantees that the power offered during the "one port" merger? there will be no football dept links, the magpies wont be a default reserves side? it is only for admin sharing? how are all of those working out?

OH NO HE DIDN'T!!!!!

spewing i got to go to the dentists now!

this could get interesting.

[tipper]

take your mobile, tapatalk is great

[Psyber]

kinda like the guarantees that the power offered during the "one port" merger? there will be no football dept links, the magpies wont be a default reserves side? it is only for admin sharing? how are all of those working out?

And is anyone surprised by the Port Adelaide duplicity in this issue because they don't remember the history of the SANFL/AFL saga and Port's role in forcing the SANFL's hand?

[Booney]

kinda like the guarantees that the power offered during the "one port" merger? there will be no football dept links, the magpies wont be a default reserves side? it is only for admin sharing? how are all of those working out?

As I dont actually work at the PAFC or SANFL, I'm not privvy to those exact arrangements.

SANFL - 8268 2088. They might be able to help you more than me.

A bit like people on here saying we are off to Tasmania....how could you possibly have any ******* idea that is going to happen?

[tipper]

thats just a guess. if the power continue to lose money here in adelaide, and the afl own the licnece, they will either cut their losses (eventually) by folding them altogether, or moving them. i suppose they could go north to the NT though, so i suppose you are right, tassie could be bullshit. there are a couple of big IF's in there i know, but so far i havent seen much in the way of evidence to show that the power are turning it around. still projected to make a loss this year arent they?

[Jim05]

kinda like the guarantees that the power offered during the "one port" merger? there will be no football dept links, the magpies wont be a default reserves side? it is only for admin sharing? how are all of those working out?

As I dont actually work at the PAFC or SANFL, I'm not privvy to those exact arrangements.

SANFL - 8268 2088. They might be able to help you more than me.

A bit like people on here saying we are off to Tasmania....how could you possibly have any ******* idea that is going to happen?

I think that is just wishful thinking.
The AFL will always have 2 teams in SA no matter how much it costs

[kickinit]

missed the link where it showed the sma have an 80 year lease on adelaide oval did you? im sure if the afl are interested in taking on the lease after that they are welcome to put in a bid in 2090 sometime. too bad it will be way to late to save the tassie devils, oops i mean the power...

also the reason the power were spruiking adelaide oval as their great white hope was they expected a dramatic increase in attendance by relocating. that combined with the "clean" stadium and associated sponsorship winfall was supposed to increase their revenue and save the club. however it was pointed out by many on here that just relocation would not guarantee an increase in crowds and the projections were overly optimistic. now it is getting closer to the move date it seems the power themselves have started to wake up to what we have known all along, they just dont have the crowd pulling ability.

west lakes wont be a debt, they already have plans to dismantle most of the grandstands etc, which equals less maintenance costs. crows will still use it as a training base, there is rent right there, that will cover the groundskeepers, and the land at max basheer reserve will be developed, $$$$$. and the stadium can still be used by sanfl clubs. i reckon it should be fine.

just because you dont like the sanfl, doest mean they cant be a stakeholder with the stadium management authority. just because turbo tom is seeking legal advice, doesnt mean anything will change (ministers and government depts seek legal advice all the time, they even employ lawyers!!) the sanfl was given a 50% stake in the sma in exchange for allowing the crows and power to move to adelaide oval. after selling the licences, the teams can move to whatever stadium they like, however as i stated earlier, as the only two afl standard stadiums in adelaide are either controlled, or owned by the sanfl, so unless they build their own stadium (lol, with what money/land??) or move interstate they are stuck with the sanfl.

thanks for providing a guaranteed revenue stream for the sanfl Port, well, guaranteed for as long as you are still in this state and thanks for seeking your licence to be bought from the sanfl, it will guarantee millions less in expenditure, further helping the league to survive.

so answer this what happens when the SANFL get done for stealing tax payers money? bye bye SANFL from the SMA. The thing you don't understand is it's not just port worried about adelaide oval it is also the crows. In the original plan it was only going to cost 2million to run the SMA and that was in the initial contract, as it stands that cost has been taken out to 9million with them also taking an extra 1.8million from memberships. they have blown their cost out and now the crows and power are got be losing at least 8.8million a year. The whole reason for the move to adelaide oval was for the Sma to be run lean so the crows and power could maximise returns. The powers case with the current level of attendances at games they would of made a profit, and that was the original deal. Why would the government spend so much money on a stadium if the power where still to have the same issues at adelaide oval as they do at aami stadium?

[tipper]

missed the link where it showed the sma have an 80 year lease on adelaide oval did you? im sure if the afl are interested in taking on the lease after that they are welcome to put in a bid in 2090 sometime. too bad it will be way to late to save the tassie devils, oops i mean the power...

also the reason the power were spruiking adelaide oval as their great white hope was they expected a dramatic increase in attendance by relocating. that combined with the "clean" stadium and associated sponsorship winfall was supposed to increase their revenue and save the club. however it was pointed out by many on here that just relocation would not guarantee an increase in crowds and the projections were overly optimistic. now it is getting closer to the move date it seems the power themselves have started to wake up to what we have known all along, they just dont have the crowd pulling ability.

west lakes wont be a debt, they already have plans to dismantle most of the grandstands etc, which equals less maintenance costs. crows will still use it as a training base, there is rent right there, that will cover the groundskeepers, and the land at max basheer reserve will be developed, $$$$$. and the stadium can still be used by sanfl clubs. i reckon it should be fine.

just because you dont like the sanfl, doest mean they cant be a stakeholder with the stadium management authority. just because turbo tom is seeking legal advice, doesnt mean anything will change (ministers and government depts seek legal advice all the time, they even employ lawyers!!) the sanfl was given a 50% stake in the sma in exchange for allowing the crows and power to move to adelaide oval. after selling the licences, the teams can move to whatever stadium they like, however as i stated earlier, as the only two afl standard stadiums in adelaide are either controlled, or owned by the sanfl, so unless they build their own stadium (lol, with what money/land??) or move interstate they are stuck with the sanfl.

thanks for providing a guaranteed revenue stream for the sanfl Port, well, guaranteed for as long as you are still in this state and thanks for seeking your licence to be bought from the sanfl, it will guarantee millions less in expenditure, further helping the league to survive.

so answer this what happens when the SANFL get done for stealing tax payers money? bye bye SANFL from the SMA. The thing you don't understand is it's not just port worried about adelaide oval it is also the crows. In the original plan it was only going to cost 2million to run the SMA and that was in the initial contract, as it stands that cost has been taken out to 9million with them also taking an extra 1.8million from memberships. they have blown their cost out and now the crows and power are got be losing at least 8.8million a year. The whole reason for the move to adelaide oval was for the Sma to be run lean so the crows and power could maximise returns. The powers case with the current level of attendances at games they would of made a profit, and that was the original deal. Why would the government spend so much money on a stadium if the power where still to have the same issues at adelaide oval as they do at aami stadium?

no the whole reason for the move to adelaide oval was so the power would draw a bigger crowd, and get a "clean" stadium to make a profit. the sanfl arent stealing anything. needs to be a bit of actual evidence for them to be done for that, not just cos you dont want them making money out of the deal.

and why would the government do it? to put it bluntly, they are dumb. since when have the government actually fixed anything? they are building the south road superway, on only part of south road that didnt actually have traffic problems, they are building a brand new hospital, with less capacity than the one they are going to bulldoze, all the while our population is increasing... etc.

at the time of the election, there was supposed popular support for a "new" stadium. the libs had a plan for a brand new stadium, the labs had this plan. once the election was over they went ahead with their plan, regardless if it was best for all concerned or not. it was a political point scoring exercise, nothing more. at the time it was said to be helpful for the power, as it would increase crowds. if it does, you win. if it doesnt, you will be in the same predicament you are now. either way, the power will still be (rightfully) charged rent for the stadium they use. the only way out of that is if the power own the stadium. even if the "adelaide council sold adelaide oval to the afl" as you suggested earlier, the afl would still charge the power rent, so you wouldnt be in any better position.

is your problem paying rent, or who the landlord is??

[Booney]

kinda like the guarantees that the power offered during the "one port" merger? there will be no football dept links, the magpies wont be a default reserves side? it is only for admin sharing? how are all of those working out?

As I dont actually work at the PAFC or SANFL, I'm not privvy to those exact arrangements.
SANFL - 8268 2088. They might be able to help you more than me.
A bit like people on here saying we are off to Tasmania....how could you possibly have any ******* idea that is going to happen?

I think that is just wishful thinking.
The AFL will always have 2 teams in SA no matter how much it costs

Yep, you're right. I'm also very optimisitc that things are turning around off field too. New major sponsor etc etc. Its all been said before, but the 1/18th of the competition that we are and the 1/2 of the SA based AFL sides that we are means the AFL, as long as they get $1.125b for TV rights, will happily support us.

Lets not forget, Geelong, Bulldogs, Melbourne, North Melbourne ( they even got told to go to the Gold Coast ) have been in similar if not worse spots in recent years and they have (some of them) been able to succeed in time with good people in charge.

[Brodlach]

kinda like the guarantees that the power offered during the "one port" merger? there will be no football dept links, the magpies wont be a default reserves side? it is only for admin sharing? how are all of those working out?

As I dont actually work at the PAFC or SANFL, I'm not privvy to those exact arrangements.

SANFL - 8268 2088. They might be able to help you more than me.

A bit like people on here saying we are off to Tasmania....how could you possibly have any ******* idea that is going to happen?

I think that is just wishful thinking.
The AFL will always have 2 teams in SA no matter how much it costs

It was always cost less to have two teams in SA than having 2 teams in either NSW or Queensland

[FlyingHigh]

missed the link where it showed the sma have an 80 year lease on adelaide oval did you? im sure if the afl are interested in taking on the lease after that they are welcome to put in a bid in 2090 sometime. too bad it will be way to late to save the tassie devils, oops i mean the power...

http://www.tassiedevil.com.au/tasdevil. ... CB0011BD2C

[Booney]

kinda like the guarantees that the power offered during the "one port" merger? there will be no football dept links, the magpies wont be a default reserves side? it is only for admin sharing? how are all of those working out?

As I dont actually work at the PAFC or SANFL, I'm not privvy to those exact arrangements.
SANFL - 8268 2088. They might be able to help you more than me.
A bit like people on here saying we are off to Tasmania....how could you possibly have any ******* idea that is going to happen?

I think that is just wishful thinking.
The AFL will always have 2 teams in SA no matter how much it costs

It was always cost less to have two teams in SA than having 2 teams in either NSW or Queensland

Correct. How much, in the last 3 and next 3 years, will the AFL pour into GWS and Port?

[Scrapboy]

kinda like the guarantees that the power offered during the "one port" merger? there will be no football dept links, the magpies wont be a default reserves side? it is only for admin sharing? how are all of those working out?

As I dont actually work at the PAFC or SANFL, I'm not privvy to those exact arrangements.
SANFL - 8268 2088. They might be able to help you more than me.
A bit like people on here saying we are off to Tasmania....how could you possibly have any ******* idea that is going to happen?

I think that is just wishful thinking.
The AFL will always have 2 teams in SA no matter how much it costs

Yep, you're right. I'm also very optimisitc that things are turning around off field too. New major sponsor etc etc. Its all been said before, but the 1/18th of the competition that we are and the 1/2 of the SA based AFL sides that we are means the AFL, as long as they get $1.125b for TV rights, will happily support us.

Lets not forget, Geelong, Bulldogs, Melbourne, North Melbourne ( they even got told to go to the Gold Coast ) have been in similar if not worse spots in recent years and they have (some of them) been able to succeed in time with good people in charge.

Very true, Port have also proven there are heaps of supporters to jump back on should things get good again (last round in 2007 had around 40000), unfortunately the current climate will have most of them enjoying the success just it to stick it up our collective ar$es.