Power players leaving SANFL clubs to Magpies

[kickinit]

Now answer mine give me one good reason why once the afl license are sold the sanfl should be on the SMA.

Easy, they are the Governing Sporting Organisation for Australian Football in this state, in the same way the SACA is the state goverening body for cricket in this state. They are the two bodies registered with the state governement (Office of Recreation and Sport) to manage the sports in this state.

The two governing bodies of the sporting codes that are the major users of the sporting facility are going to manage it.

As I was told when I first stared working in a state government. That's the way it is. If you don't like it stand for Parliament, get elected and then change it.

so does that mean when the afl buy back the license they have to answer to the sanfl anything to with football in south australia?

[whufc]

Simple because they are 50% stakeholders of the sma, they didn't get the lease soley beaded on having to hold the licences.

why did they get the license then? Do you know if they had nothing to do with the crows or power that they wouldn't even been spoken to about adelaide oval. Do you also know there was no talk on the afl licenses being sold when the saca voted on the deal? So know that the sanfl are selling the licenses and have nothing to do with adelaide oval except to recieve money why should they be there? Seeing that I know you aint going to answer it or make up some crap they don't, it actually defeats the purpose of adelaide oval having them there.

Ummmm u do realise Port and the Crows wouldnt even be allowed to play at AO if it wasnt for the SANFL. So giving up AFL at the stadium it owned to allow the government to have a city stadium with AFL football which is a boost to the state (not just football but alot of other industries) makes them a fairly large part of AO and is why they rightly are 50% stakeholders.

[kickinit]

It's not Rocket Science @kickinit, whufc is spot on, there was a lot more than being the owner of the AFL licences that gave the SANFL the right to be a partner in SMA, being owner of the premier footy stadium that had to make way for a Adelaide Oval upgrade would have had a much larger part in it

thats business, companies lose contract all the time to other companies that offer better deals. If the SANFL didn't own the license they would of had nothing to do with Adelaide oval or the SMA. why do you rekon everyone kept quiet when the SACA vote was going through? why because SACA would of said no due to them not having anything to do with it.

If you really believe that, perhaps you are what you accused the SANFL of being

it's the truth, if the power and crows where stand lone business or owned by the afl why would they consult with the sanfl? Now think of this as a business point. If the license holder (the club or afl) where not getting a great deal at football park and had a opportunity to move to receive a better deal would the sanfl been consulted. To put it in easy terms for you a plumber is getting charged $100 for some pipe the place down the road sells it for $75 does he have to consult the place he originally bought it from.

[whufc]

I seriously don't get people in this state anymore.

Surely it's in everyone's interest to have strong AFL and sanfl clubs, yet it seems some would rather see the other party fold, even if it means they miss out on revenue themselves and are worse for it.
The AFL sides are What they are because of the sa Footy heritage, while the sanfl is the second best comp in the country.in part because of the AFL generated revenues that are the biggest revenue stream in sa Footy.

I just don't get it anymore. Perhaps our energies would be better spent building another one way freeway.

Agree great post

[kickinit]

Simple because they are 50% stakeholders of the sma, they didn't get the lease soley beaded on having to hold the licences.

why did they get the license then? Do you know if they had nothing to do with the crows or power that they wouldn't even been spoken to about adelaide oval. Do you also know there was no talk on the afl licenses being sold when the saca voted on the deal? So know that the sanfl are selling the licenses and have nothing to do with adelaide oval except to recieve money why should they be there? Seeing that I know you aint going to answer it or make up some crap they don't, it actually defeats the purpose of adelaide oval having them there.

Ummmm u do realise Port and the Crows wouldnt even be allowed to play at AO if it wasnt for the SANFL. So giving up AFL at the stadium it owned to allow the government to have a city stadium with AFL football which is a boost to the state (not just football but alot of other industries) makes them a fairly large part of AO and is why they rightly are 50% stakeholders.

understand how business works and you might change your answer. Put it to you this way, you rent house at the end of the lease you decide you are moving does the owner of the first house get part of your rent from the second house?

[whufc]

It's not Rocket Science @kickinit, whufc is spot on, there was a lot more than being the owner of the AFL licences that gave the SANFL the right to be a partner in SMA, being owner of the premier footy stadium that had to make way for a Adelaide Oval upgrade would have had a much larger part in it

thats business, companies lose contract all the time to other companies that offer better deals. If the SANFL didn't own the license they would of had nothing to do with Adelaide oval or the SMA. why do you rekon everyone kept quiet when the SACA vote was going through? why because SACA would of said no due to them not having anything to do with it.

If you really believe that, perhaps you are what you accused the SANFL of being

it's the truth, if the power and crows where stand lone business or owned by the afl why would they consult with the sanfl? Now think of this as a business point. If the license holder (the club or afl) where not getting a great deal at football park and had a opportunity to move to receive a better deal would the sanfl been consulted. To put it in easy terms for you a plumber is getting charged $100 for some pipe the place down the road sells it for $75 does he have to consult the place he originally bought it from.

U keep forgotten we OWN you, it's up to us whether we give you your freedom. Your freedom doesn't come cheap you have to pay a large price for your freedom. Us being part of the SMA and you paying rent is part of the cost for your freedom SIMPLE really

[whufc]

Simple because they are 50% stakeholders of the sma, they didn't get the lease soley beaded on having to hold the licences.

why did they get the license then? Do you know if they had nothing to do with the crows or power that they wouldn't even been spoken to about adelaide oval. Do you also know there was no talk on the afl licenses being sold when the saca voted on the deal? So know that the sanfl are selling the licenses and have nothing to do with adelaide oval except to recieve money why should they be there? Seeing that I know you aint going to answer it or make up some crap they don't, it actually defeats the purpose of adelaide oval having them there.

Ummmm u do realise Port and the Crows wouldnt even be allowed to play at AO if it wasnt for the SANFL. So giving up AFL at the stadium it owned to allow the government to have a city stadium with AFL football which is a boost to the state (not just football but alot of other industries) makes them a fairly large part of AO and is why they rightly are 50% stakeholders.

understand how business works and you might change your answer. Put it to you this way, you rent house at the end of the lease you decide you are moving does the owner of the first house get part of your rent from the second house?

Lucky for us we have the lease and use are renting off us

[Ian]

so does that mean when the afl buy back the license they have to answer to the sanfl anything to with football in south australia?

That would depend on the contractual agreement that went with the licence transfer, I'm sure the SANFL would have measures in place to protect it's own competition, time will tell I guess.
Other that the fact the SANFL put a stop to the Magpies attempt to screw over the whole comp and created the Crows with enough protection for the State League to not only survive, but survive with a lot more prosperity that the other state leagues, what is your problem with the SANFL? you seem to still have a very large axe to grind, most Port supporters tell the rest of the state it's time to get over it, you're not helping their cause

[Pseudo]

It's not Rocket Science @kickinit, whufc is spot on, there was a lot more than being the owner of the AFL licences that gave the SANFL the right to be a partner in SMA, being owner of the premier footy stadium that had to make way for a Adelaide Oval upgrade would have had a much larger part in it

thats business, companies lose contract all the time to other companies that offer better deals. If the SANFL didn't own the license they would of had nothing to do with Adelaide oval or the SMA. why do you rekon everyone kept quiet when the SACA vote was going through? why because SACA would of said no due to them not having anything to do with it.

If you really believe that, perhaps you are what you accused the SANFL of being

Did he call the SANFL halfwits?

[Ian]

It's not Rocket Science @kickinit, whufc is spot on, there was a lot more than being the owner of the AFL licences that gave the SANFL the right to be a partner in SMA, being owner of the premier footy stadium that had to make way for a Adelaide Oval upgrade would have had a much larger part in it

thats business, companies lose contract all the time to other companies that offer better deals. If the SANFL didn't own the license they would of had nothing to do with Adelaide oval or the SMA. why do you rekon everyone kept quiet when the SACA vote was going through? why because SACA would of said no due to them not having anything to do with it.

If you really believe that, perhaps you are what you accused the SANFL of being

Did he call the SANFL halfwits?

Not quite, close though

seriously I never knew someone could be this dumb.

[kickinit]

Lucky for us we have the lease and use are renting off us

i'm glad you know understand.

[kickinit]

so does that mean when the afl buy back the license they have to answer to the sanfl anything to with football in south australia?

That would depend on the contractual agreement that went with the licence transfer, I'm sure the SANFL would have measures in place to protect it's own competition, time will tell I guess.
Other that the fact the SANFL put a stop to the Magpies attempt to screw over the whole comp and created the Crows with enough protection for the State League to not only survive, but survive with a lot more prosperity that the other state leagues, what is your problem with the SANFL? you seem to still have a very large axe to grind, most Port supporters tell the rest of the state it's time to get over it, you're not helping their cause

the problem I have is we are now in a situation where it looks like the entire adelaide oval redevelopment is a complete waste of tax payers money, and why purely because we have the sanfl only caring about how much money they make. While teams apart of their competition are hardly surviving. You guys that care about the sanfl so much should ask yourselves where has all this money gone? The thing that makes the SANFL is the teams playing footy and when they are strugling to survive whats going to happen to football in this state?

[whufc]

Lucky for us we have the lease and use are renting off us

i'm glad you know understand.

And I'm glad u understand your freedom won't be cheap

[kickinit]

Lucky for us we have the lease and use are renting off us

i'm glad you know understand.

And I'm glad u understand your freedom won't be cheap

it does actually because because of the afl tv rights

[whufc]

so does that mean when the afl buy back the license they have to answer to the sanfl anything to with football in south australia?

That would depend on the contractual agreement that went with the licence transfer, I'm sure the SANFL would have measures in place to protect it's own competition, time will tell I guess.
Other that the fact the SANFL put a stop to the Magpies attempt to screw over the whole comp and created the Crows with enough protection for the State League to not only survive, but survive with a lot more prosperity that the other state leagues, what is your problem with the SANFL? you seem to still have a very large axe to grind, most Port supporters tell the rest of the state it's time to get over it, you're not helping their cause

the problem I have is we are now in a situation where it looks like the entire adelaide oval redevelopment is a complete waste of tax payers money, and why purely because we have the sanfl only caring about how much money they make. While teams apart of their competition are hardly surviving. You guys that care about the sanfl so much should ask yourselves where has all this money gone? The thing that makes the SANFL is the teams playing footy and when they are strugling to survive whats going to happen to football in this state?

The money's gone propping up port power lol

[kickinit]

the problem I have is we are now in a situation where it looks like the entire adelaide oval redevelopment is a complete waste of tax payers money, and why purely because we have the sanfl only caring about how much money they make. While teams apart of their competition are hardly surviving. You guys that care about the sanfl so much should ask yourselves where has all this money gone? The thing that makes the SANFL is the teams playing footy and when they are strugling to survive whats going to happen to football in this state?

The money's gone propping up port power lol[/quote]

we haven't received that much in grants. and seeing as the SANFL own the power license doesn't that mean propping themselves up?

[whufc]

the problem I have is we are now in a situation where it looks like the entire adelaide oval redevelopment is a complete waste of tax payers money, and why purely because we have the sanfl only caring about how much money they make. While teams apart of their competition are hardly surviving. You guys that care about the sanfl so much should ask yourselves where has all this money gone? The thing that makes the SANFL is the teams playing footy and when they are strugling to survive whats going to happen to football in this state?

The money's gone propping up port power lol

we haven't received that much in grants. and seeing as the SANFL own the power license doesn't that mean propping themselves up? [/quote]

Nope the power should be able to support thenselves like their older brother can very successfully

[rod_rooster]

the problem I have is we are now in a situation where it looks like the entire adelaide oval redevelopment is a complete waste of tax payers money, and why purely because we have the sanfl only caring about how much money they make. While teams apart of their competition are hardly surviving. You guys that care about the sanfl so much should ask yourselves where has all this money gone? The thing that makes the SANFL is the teams playing footy and when they are strugling to survive whats going to happen to football in this state?

The money's gone propping up port power lol

we haven't received that much in grants. and seeing as the SANFL own the power license doesn't that mean propping themselves up?

It's bit like owning a lemon of a car. Some people end up spending far more on maintaining the thing than they paid for it in the first place. There comes a time when you either find someone stupid enough to buy it from you or cut your losses and send it off for scrap. Either way you end up better off for being rid of it.

[kickinit]

Nope the power should be able to support thenselves like their older brother can very successfully

and how much money has the port adelaide football club made the sanfl since 1877? I bet you it out weighs the money that has been given to port.

[kickinit]

It's bit like owning a lemon of a car. Some people end up spending far more on maintaining the thing than they paid for it in the first place. There comes a time when you either find someone stupid enough to buy it from you or cut your losses and send it off for scrap. Either way you end up better off for being rid of it.

or you find someone that can fix the issue properly and doesn't charge you a arm and leg for it.