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Re: Southern Football League

Postby Numbers » Mon May 06, 2013 7:07 pm

Oldman Munga wrote:
Numbers wrote:
Oldman Munga wrote:
pantherman wrote:King hit is a fair overreaction I would have thought, but it wouldnt be hard for this forum to workout who the culprit was. Wasnt much in it really

So Player is left concussed on ground for several minutes and even though very unsteady on his feet was hellbent on a square up , King hit where I come from is a cheap deliberate attemp to knock the other fella out , it was all that and more , throw as much water on it as you wish Pantherman I know what I saw 20 metres in front of me m8 ,
@ 9798 no report that I am aware of , and its not the Shoeboy way to cite players from other clubs , the culprit has his coming , just hope I am fortunate enough to witness it when it happens


Did Tasker play the rest of the game? If he was concussed & did play the game out then questions should be asked of the medical staff!

Also, a bit rich for The Shoes to worry about king hits when they had Hockley as captain for a few years!

Tasker was deemed fit to continue by the Medicoes @NFC who I might add are respected by all Clubs for thier knowledge and profesionalism , As for Hockley , cant commemt as I was not at the club during his captaincy , so it was a few yrs ago and I think most would agree its not a reputation easily alligned to players @ NFC


Not saying they aren't professional! Was just trying to make the point that if he did play on then the
"King Hit" must not have been all too bad!
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby liverpool kiss » Mon May 06, 2013 10:23 pm

Numbers wrote:
Oldman Munga wrote:
pantherman wrote:King hit is a fair overreaction I would have thought, but it wouldnt be hard for this forum to workout who the culprit was. Wasnt much in it really

So Player is left concussed on ground for several minutes and even though very unsteady on his feet was hellbent on a square up , King hit where I come from is a cheap deliberate attemp to knock the other fella out , it was all that and more , throw as much water on it as you wish Pantherman I know what I saw 20 metres in front of me m8 ,
@ 9798 no report that I am aware of , and its not the Shoeboy way to cite players from other clubs , the culprit has his coming , just hope I am fortunate enough to witness it when it happens


Did Tasker play the rest of the game? If he was concussed & did play the game out then questions should be asked of the medical staff!

Also, a bit rich for The Shoes to worry about king hits when they had Hockley as captain for a few years!

Hockley was not alone, he was just the last of that era, can think of a few sfl captains who would give you one for free.
doesn't change the fact tasker was belted, not hockley or noarlungas fault. I'm sure the player will have the favour repaid. suggesting medicos need questioning...that is below the belt I rekn. . [-X
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby liverpool kiss » Mon May 06, 2013 10:40 pm

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liverpool kiss wrote:what happened with noarlunga :?: would expect them to beat porties. injuries, poor day or porties just too good??

Combination of all 3 LK , definately missed Peachy down back along with Suttons run through the midfield , probably didnt notice the ommission of Golding as much because the drive into the forward line was not as strong as previous weeks , didnt help things any when Tasker was King Hit off the ball @ FF in the opening minutes of the game in a Totally Gutless Act


any idea on how old s.tasker is these days
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby Numbers » Mon May 06, 2013 11:15 pm

liverpool kiss wrote:
Numbers wrote:
Oldman Munga wrote:
pantherman wrote:King hit is a fair overreaction I would have thought, but it wouldnt be hard for this forum to workout who the culprit was. Wasnt much in it really

So Player is left concussed on ground for several minutes and even though very unsteady on his feet was hellbent on a square up , King hit where I come from is a cheap deliberate attemp to knock the other fella out , it was all that and more , throw as much water on it as you wish Pantherman I know what I saw 20 metres in front of me m8 ,
@ 9798 no report that I am aware of , and its not the Shoeboy way to cite players from other clubs , the culprit has his coming , just hope I am fortunate enough to witness it when it happens


Did Tasker play the rest of the game? If he was concussed & did play the game out then questions should be asked of the medical staff!

Also, a bit rich for The Shoes to worry about king hits when they had Hockley as captain for a few years!

Hockley was not alone, he was just the last of that era, can think of a few sfl captains who would give you one for free.
doesn't change the fact tasker was belted, not hockley or noarlungas fault. I'm sure the player will have the favour repaid. suggesting medicos need questioning...that is below the belt I rekn. . [-X


Not questioning them LK, just pointing out that it can't be both! If it was such a big hit he wouldn't have taken any further part in the game & the fact is that he did, hence it must not have been a huge hit!
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby leftpeg » Tue May 07, 2013 12:41 am

Oldman Munga wrote:
pantherman wrote:King hit is a fair overreaction I would have thought, but it wouldnt be hard for this forum to workout who the culprit was. Wasnt much in it really

So Player is left concussed on ground for several minutes and even though very unsteady on his feet was hellbent on a square up , King hit where I come from is a cheap deliberate attemp to knock the other fella out , it was all that and more , throw as much water on it as you wish Pantherman I know what I saw 20 metres in front of me m8 ,
@ 9798 no report that I am aware of , and its not the Shoeboy way to cite players from other clubs , the culprit has his coming , just hope I am fortunate enough to witness it when it happens


just like Tasker has been the culprit on several occasions, and finally got what was coming to him?

This "eye for an eye" mentality will go nowhere towards eliminating thuggish off-the-ball hits from our game.
Report the player and make him think twice before re-offending.

I know Porties are very quick to put in spectator reports when something happens to one of their players. Wonder if any Porties officials will speak up when the offender is one of their own.. I highly doubt it
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby Off The Wall » Tue May 07, 2013 10:21 am

liverpool kiss wrote:
Oldman Munga wrote:
liverpool kiss wrote:what happened with noarlunga :?: would expect them to beat porties. injuries, poor day or porties just too good??

Combination of all 3 LK , definately missed Peachy down back along with Suttons run through the midfield , probably didnt notice the ommission of Golding as much because the drive into the forward line was not as strong as previous weeks , didnt help things any when Tasker was King Hit off the ball @ FF in the opening minutes of the game in a Totally Gutless Act


any idea on how old s.tasker is these days

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Re: Southern Football League

Postby Cove boys » Tue May 07, 2013 1:27 pm

vics01 wrote:
TBB
Nath Bayly kick a goal after the siren to get the emus over the cobras by a point? this true?


TURBO give us a run down of what happened?? Is this correct??


Great game of Sunday Football all round...Cove lost it in the second quarter when they only kicked 1 point...but Yes Bayly kicked a goal after the siren and the Emu's won back the Merv Mules Trophy
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby Cove boys » Tue May 07, 2013 1:39 pm

vics01 wrote:COVE BOYS
Not sure where you are from yet (claim Cove) (Talk about Marion) but you missed the point.

Clubs need to look at mergers at Senior level down to Junior level. There are just not enough footballers at all levels to go around anymore and support all the clubs..

For sake of saving some form of respect for the club name tough decisions need to be made going forward with respect to merge or disappear forever.


Totally agree that some Clubs need to look at the Merger Option to keep their history and future alive. Lifestyles are changing, population is getting older in certain areas. Other sports are becoming more popular than before and there aren't enough players to go round lile there used to be, some club that are sitting on top of each others turf need to seriously consider Merging as an option. It has worked for many clubs in many different levels of football
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby Look Good In Leather » Tue May 07, 2013 2:35 pm

Cove boys wrote:
vics01 wrote:COVE BOYS
Not sure where you are from yet (claim Cove) (Talk about Marion) but you missed the point.

Clubs need to look at mergers at Senior level down to Junior level. There are just not enough footballers at all levels to go around anymore and support all the clubs..

For sake of saving some form of respect for the club name tough decisions need to be made going forward with respect to merge or disappear forever.


Totally agree that some Clubs need to look at the Merger Option to keep their history and future alive. Lifestyles are changing, population is getting older in certain areas. Other sports are becoming more popular than before and there aren't enough players to go round lile there used to be, some club that are sitting on top of each others turf need to seriously consider Merging as an option. It has worked for many clubs in many different levels of football


It has also failed in many cases, visit Goolwa-Port Elliot and see what recognition there is of the old Port Elliot club, Bay Valley Rovers at Encounter Bay, Brighton High Old Scholars at Brighton Bombers, Torrensville United at Lockleys, Highbury United at Hope Valley, Thompsons at Walkerville, Semaphore Park or Hindmarsh CYMS at SMOSH.

And then there are those that did not keep the future alive - Campbelltown-Magill, Burnside-Kensington, Adelaide Tigers, Mile End Cats

Of course Kenilworth-Colonel Light is a whole different ball game, likewise with the alliances that Greek merged into
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby Down the Hill » Tue May 07, 2013 3:27 pm

I think you are wrong with Brighton LGIL because we have gradually departed from the separate entities pre-merge. Joining the SFL in 1997 assisted this. From 1991 to 1996 we wore the old BHOS green and white jumpers, so if anything we had a stronger link to BHOS in the early days.

Pre-merge, BHOS had come to the end of a strong era and playing stocks and depth was as weak as it had been for a decade. Brighton had gone from a club that fielded 3 senior teams and 2 junior teams in Southern Metro then into SAFA but by 1990 was barely scraping together 2 senior teams and I'm pretty certain didn't even have a junior team in its last season, and was in huge financial trouble due to SAFA affiliation costs and an attempt to buy a flag in 1988 that went arse up at the business end of the season. It was still definitely a merger but also a clean start which is what a true merger should be.

Woodville-West Torrens, who coincidentally merged at the same time, struggled with the merger concept to begin with but have come out the other side now and the fact they were once Woodville and West Torrens is a distant memory but similar to the Brighton Bombers, the history of both clubs can't be taken away and I don't think either of the previous 2 clubs are considered to have a stronger connection to the current.

I look forward to news of the merger talks between Christies Beach and Port Noarlunga and the creation of the Southport Stingrays or the Onkaparinga Snorkellers or even the St Vincent Saints.
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby Vulcan » Tue May 07, 2013 4:25 pm

IMO good idea for certain clubs to merge. WILL not happen to much pride would get in the way.
But I would go with:
Mvale-hackham
Cove-Lonsdale
Brighton-Marion
Aldinga-pt noar
Something like this, would make the league a lot better.
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby Look Good In Leather » Tue May 07, 2013 5:43 pm

Down the Hill wrote:I think you are wrong with Brighton LGIL because we have gradually departed from the separate entities pre-merge. Joining the SFL in 1997 assisted this. From 1991 to 1996 we wore the old BHOS green and white jumpers, so if anything we had a stronger link to BHOS in the early days.

Pre-merge, BHOS had come to the end of a strong era and playing stocks and depth was as weak as it had been for a decade. Brighton had gone from a club that fielded 3 senior teams and 2 junior teams in Southern Metro then into SAFA but by 1990 was barely scraping together 2 senior teams and I'm pretty certain didn't even have a junior team in its last season, and was in huge financial trouble due to SAFA affiliation costs and an attempt to buy a flag in 1988 that went arse up at the business end of the season. It was still definitely a merger but also a clean start which is what a true merger should be.

Woodville-West Torrens, who coincidentally merged at the same time, struggled with the merger concept to begin with but have come out the other side now and the fact they were once Woodville and West Torrens is a distant memory but similar to the Brighton Bombers, the history of both clubs can't be taken away and I don't think either of the previous 2 clubs are considered to have a stronger connection to the current.

I look forward to news of the merger talks between Christies Beach and Port Noarlunga and the creation of the Southport Stingrays or the Onkaparinga Snorkellers or even the St Vincent Saints.


DTH I know that was obviously said in jest - about as much chance of that happening as there is of New Zealand becoming the 7th State of Australia

As for BHOS, I can't remember seeing any of the old Green & White jumper photos last time I was down at Brighton, yet there were plenty of the Black & Gold and even the Black & White Prison Bar jumpers of the old Brighton club - unless I was mistaken
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby leftpeg » Tue May 07, 2013 6:03 pm

Vulcan wrote:IMO good idea for certain clubs to merge. WILL not happen to much pride would get in the way.
But I would go with:
Mvale-hackham
Cove-Lonsdale
Brighton-Marion
Aldinga-pt noar
Something like this, would make the league a lot better.


I was thinking about this aswell, however I only see 2 possible mergers occuring, as both clubs need some sort of benefit out of the deal.. There is no way clubs like Mvale, Cove, BDOS, Porties will give up some of their identity to help out a struggling club.

Lonsdale-Hackham:
Hackham will benefit from the added numbers (improvement in depth)
Lonsdale gain the Facilities down at Hackham. Maybe the Southern Hawks?

Likewise Morphy Parks could give up the Pasty, and make a move to Marion who have arguably the best facilities in the SFL.
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby vics01 » Tue May 07, 2013 6:23 pm

IMO good idea for certain clubs to merge. WILL not happen to much pride would get in the way.
But I would go with:
Mvale-hackham
Cove-Lonsdale
Brighton-Marion
Aldinga-pt noar
Something like this, would make the league a lot better.


These would more like hostile takeovers than megers.

LEFT PEG has nailed it all clubs need to have a benefit out of a merger. Unfortunately won't happen and some will eventually fade away never to be heard from again.
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby Down the Hill » Tue May 07, 2013 6:30 pm

Look Good In Leather wrote:
Down the Hill wrote:I think you are wrong with Brighton LGIL because we have gradually departed from the separate entities pre-merge. Joining the SFL in 1997 assisted this. From 1991 to 1996 we wore the old BHOS green and white jumpers, so if anything we had a stronger link to BHOS in the early days.

Pre-merge, BHOS had come to the end of a strong era and playing stocks and depth was as weak as it had been for a decade. Brighton had gone from a club that fielded 3 senior teams and 2 junior teams in Southern Metro then into SAFA but by 1990 was barely scraping together 2 senior teams and I'm pretty certain didn't even have a junior team in its last season, and was in huge financial trouble due to SAFA affiliation costs and an attempt to buy a flag in 1988 that went arse up at the business end of the season. It was still definitely a merger but also a clean start which is what a true merger should be.

Woodville-West Torrens, who coincidentally merged at the same time, struggled with the merger concept to begin with but have come out the other side now and the fact they were once Woodville and West Torrens is a distant memory but similar to the Brighton Bombers, the history of both clubs can't be taken away and I don't think either of the previous 2 clubs are considered to have a stronger connection to the current.

I look forward to news of the merger talks between Christies Beach and Port Noarlunga and the creation of the Southport Stingrays or the Onkaparinga Snorkellers or even the St Vincent Saints.


DTH I know that was obviously said in jest - about as much chance of that happening as there is of New Zealand becoming the 7th State of Australia

As for BHOS, I can't remember seeing any of the old Green & White jumper photos last time I was down at Brighton, yet there were plenty of the Black & Gold and even the Black & White Prison Bar jumpers of the old Brighton club - unless I was mistaken



Maybe too many clubs bask in history and take their eye of the present. A certain club will have a 20 year Premiership reunion next year but there are no 15, 10 or 5 year reunions in sight. I wonder if any at that reunion will still be seeking the money they are still owed from 20 years ago. Maybe bank some now for interest and present to them 3 years later at the Porties 20 year reunion.
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby WHEELS&DEALS » Tue May 07, 2013 6:44 pm

leftpeg wrote:
Vulcan wrote:IMO good idea for certain clubs to merge. WILL not happen to much pride would get in the way.
But I would go with:
Mvale-hackham
Cove-Lonsdale
Brighton-Marion
Aldinga-pt noar
Something like this, would make the league a lot better.


I was thinking about this aswell, however I only see 2 possible mergers occuring, as both clubs need some sort of benefit out of the deal.. There is no way clubs like Mvale, Cove, BDOS, Porties will give up some of their identity to help out a struggling club.

Lonsdale-Hackham:
Hackham will benefit from the added numbers (improvement in depth)
Lonsdale gain the Facilities down at Hackham. Maybe the Southern Hawks?

Likewise Morphy Parks could give up the Pasty, and make a move to Marion who have arguably the best facilities in the SFL.


I think that's one of the reasons for Marion's downfall. They have turn it into a major complex that has everything. You walk into the place and it doesn't feel like a Football Club. Great facilities agree, but every time the place grows the footy club seems to go backwards.

No club ever wants to merge and as good as it may sound that a struggling club merges with a powerful one that wont happen either. The only way clubs will merge is if they are both on the brink of going under and they don't have any other option. The other thing is they don't have to merge with another SFL club, there would be a few other clubs outside the SFL that may be struggling.
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby Turbo » Tue May 07, 2013 7:30 pm

vics01 wrote:
IMO good idea for certain clubs to merge. WILL not happen to much pride would get in the way.
But I would go with:
Mvale-hackham
Cove-Lonsdale
Brighton-Marion
Aldinga-pt noar
Something like this, would make the league a lot better.


These would more like hostile takeovers than megers.

LEFT PEG has nailed it all clubs need to have a benefit out of a merger. Unfortunately won't happen and some will eventually fade away never to be heard from again.


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Re: Southern Football League

Postby Moe » Wed May 08, 2013 7:33 am

leftpeg wrote:
Vulcan wrote:IMO good idea for certain clubs to merge. WILL not happen to much pride would get in the way.
But I would go with:
Mvale-hackham
Cove-Lonsdale
Brighton-Marion
Aldinga-pt noar
Something like this, would make the league a lot better.


I was thinking about this aswell, however I only see 2 possible mergers occuring, as both clubs need some sort of benefit out of the deal.. There is no way clubs like Mvale, Cove, BDOS, Porties will give up some of their identity to help out a struggling club.

Lonsdale-Hackham:
Hackham will benefit from the added numbers (improvement in depth)
Lonsdale gain the Facilities down at Hackham. Maybe the Southern Hawks?

Likewise Morphy Parks could give up the Pasty, and make a move to Marion who have arguably the best facilities in the SFL.
This wont happen if I can help it! I would rather merge with Brighton if it came to it. Marion's facilities may be the best, but is a sports club with a football team, not a footy club. Morphy Parks oval is not the best, granted, but it oozes tradition and history (short as it is).
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby Down the Hill » Wed May 08, 2013 11:52 am

The only thing it MP oozes is a little sauce out the holes like all pasties.

You are right with Marion Moe. They don't have the best facilities because the facilities aren't theirs. The Community Club would still exist and continue to thrive even if there was no Marion Football Club.

I played juniors at Marion in the 80's and even then there was a slight disconnect between the Sports Club and footy. Although back then there were no pokies and TAB facilities and the majority of patrons in the winter were the football people or those with an interest in the fortunes of the footy club. But they still had 8 or 9 different clubs that shared the facility across winter and summer. Not as much as now, but the place still lacked the feel of a suburban footy club. The trotting track never helped and still remains an issue.

The council and locals should be proud that it is one of the few suburban facilties of its type but this doesn't neccesarily convert to strong and prosperous sporting clubs that share its use.

No more Sturt Primary, Oaklands Primary, Dover Primary, Dover High, Marion High, virtually no Mitchell Park High, and significantly reduced enrolment at Seaview High has made life very tough for that footy club.
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby afc9798 » Wed May 08, 2013 1:07 pm

Moe wrote:
leftpeg wrote:
Vulcan wrote:IMO good idea for certain clubs to merge. WILL not happen to much pride would get in the way.
But I would go with:
Mvale-hackham
Cove-Lonsdale
Brighton-Marion
Aldinga-pt noar
Something like this, would make the league a lot better.


I was thinking about this aswell, however I only see 2 possible mergers occuring, as both clubs need some sort of benefit out of the deal.. There is no way clubs like Mvale, Cove, BDOS, Porties will give up some of their identity to help out a struggling club.

Lonsdale-Hackham:
Hackham will benefit from the added numbers (improvement in depth)
Lonsdale gain the Facilities down at Hackham. Maybe the Southern Hawks?

Likewise Morphy Parks could give up the Pasty, and make a move to Marion who have arguably the best facilities in the SFL.
This wont happen if I can help it! I would rather merge with Brighton if it came to it. Marion's facilities may be the best, but is a sports club with a football team, not a footy club. Morphy Parks oval is not the best, granted, but it oozes tradition and history (short as it is).


It oozes square boundaries, gum trees that drop all over the place and an undulating surface akin to being on the moon. ;)
All that aside though, I agree with you. The Marion facilities are great if you're looking for a beer and a meal, but it just isn't and doesn't feel like a footy club. There is very little atmosphere at the game as most people are up the top, rather than around the boundary and involved in the game. Morphy Parks and Brighton would be a logical merger if it ever had to happen, or possibly Edwardstown.

Either way things go, change has to happen or that change will simply be clubs disappearing into the ether. I'd far rather have 10 strong teams all with good facilities, rather than 15 with average levels of interest, support and infrastructure to support teams. Mergers are not necessarily a question of geography, but of common sense also ie: what will be best for the two clubs. If it was simply geography, then Happy Valley and Flagstaff Hill would be logical, but both those clubs can stand on their own two feet, have good facilities and great junior programs that keep attracting the kids, so there's nothing in it other than reducing the number of clubs.

Will be interesting to see if the SFL allow things to continue to wilt, or if there is a genuine will to address the issues and revive a great local league that is an important part of the community.
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