Southern Football League

[woodublieve12]

Apparently some awkward moments after the Morphies/Edwardstown game last weekend, both directly after the game, and during the presentation of the McGuire/Thomas Cup.

I would have thought that the last quarter free kick count of 13 to 1 was more of an awkward moment for some ?

Hey 1919, your blokes gave up a 20 pt three-quarter time lead kicking to the end that 17 out of 22 goals had been kicked in the first 3 quarters. That is the most awkward fact of all.

[Tubby]

Apparently some awkward moments after the Morphies/Edwardstown game last weekend, both directly after the game, and during the presentation of the McGuire/Thomas Cup.

After the game there was some confusion over a Morphy player being reported, in the end he was and got off

The only thing i noticed, was the Townies coach refusing to shake hands with the Trophy Presenter's.

[afc9798]

Apparently some awkward moments after the Morphies/Edwardstown game last weekend, both directly after the game, and during the presentation of the McGuire/Thomas Cup.

After the game there was some confusion over a Morphy player being reported, in the end he was and got off

The only thing i noticed, was the Townies coach refusing to shake hands with the Trophy Presenter's.

Ordinary if that's the case. Another case of suspending the 'leave it on the field' mentality. Surely not that hard to shake hands and move on.
Wonder if there will be any 'spice' when the Townies coach comes up against Valleys this year. Didn't last year, but could be different with a far more competitive side in his hands...

[The Mask]

first time post but moved to be bothered by your post Tubby.....don't know what you were watching regarding Townies coach at the presentation last Saturday?? It was a lame presentation all round. but there was no refusal from the towns coach, that's for sure. Im new on the scene, and Ports has been more than accommodating to other coaches and players win/lose/draw as far as Ive seen. There's clearly some bad blood cause Towns were paraded in your rooms for not so much as a kind word - and the slagging at the bar didn't go down well either. Was a great game well played and coached from both sides IMO

[1919]

Apparently some awkward moments after the Morphies/Edwardstown game last weekend, both directly after the game, and during the presentation of the McGuire/Thomas Cup.

I would have thought that the last quarter free kick count of 13 to 1 was more of an awkward moment for some ?

Hey 1919, your blokes gave up a 20 pt three-quarter time lead kicking to the end that 17 out of 22 goals had been kicked in the first 3 quarters. That is the most awkward fact of all.

DTH, generally that's the exact result of a free kick count like that!

Then again, Towns were probably lucky to put a competative outfit on the field to begin with after suffering at least 5 concussions against your mob the week before, so droppoing away like that in 4th quarter not too surprising really.

[woodublieve12]

DTH, generally that's the exact result of a free kick count like that!

Then again, Towns were probably lucky to put a competative outfit on the field to begin with after suffering at least 5 concussions against your mob the week before, so droppoing away like that in 4th quarter not too surprising really.

it's also a direct result of getting first to the footy!!!! Not many players playing from behind get many free kicks awarded to them...

[Down the Hill]

Not sure what you are trying to say regarding concussions 1919. And lets not get carried away with the amount of concussions. 20 years ago a knock to the head was exactly that "a knock to the head". Too many wannabe doctors in the Trainer fraternity will call every bump to the head a concussion these days.

There was certainly no malice in the Townies and Brighton game. I think the overall poor skills in that game due to a tricky breeze meant the ball was on the ground alot and plenty of heads banging against other heads or other body parts. Plus too many players in the SFL are copying the AFL these days and leading with their heads when they are about to be tackled or entering a pack.

One of those head clashes was 2 blokes who ran into each other when the ball was 50 metres away. Quite humorous seeing them virtually lying on top of each other in the aftermath. Our lad had a lump the size of a cricket ball on his forehead and was sent to hospital where he was properly diagnosed as being concussed and quite rightfully didn't play on Saturday night.

I'm sure Townies would have had more concussions and perforated ear-drums after the spray Ben would have given them after the game on Saturday.

[HardenUp]

it's also a direct result of getting first to the footy!!!! Not many players playing from behind get many free kicks awarded to them... [/quote]

from a couple that I saw it didn't make any difference if Towns player got the ball first or in front but would otherwise agree with you. Way I see it is if everyone talks about the umps after a game then they, the umpires, have failed. The day SFL umpires stop guessing and take control of games by reporting and sending off players for any act behind the ball, will be the first of many steps the league can take in restoring the ulmost defunct league.

[HardenUp]

[quote="Down the Hill"]Not sure what you are trying to say regarding concussions 1919. And lets not get carried away with the amount of concussions. 20 years ago a knock to the head was exactly that "a knock to the head". Too many wannabe doctors in the Trainer fraternity will call every bump to the head a concussion these days.

There was certainly no malice in the Townies and Brighton game. I think the overall poor skills in that game due to a tricky breeze meant the ball was on the ground alot and plenty of heads banging against other heads or other body parts. Plus too many players in the SFL are copying the AFL these days and leading with their heads when they are about to be tackled or entering a pack.


What about the incident out on the wing where a Brighton player knocked out a player well after he marked the ball, wouldn't exactly call that a gesture of goodwill............Once again no free awarded, send off or report.

Somebody needs to remind SFL board, umpires have a duty of care when officiating.

[Front & Centre]

[quote="Down the Hill"]Not sure what you are trying to say regarding concussions 1919. And lets not get carried away with the amount of concussions. 20 years ago a knock to the head was exactly that "a knock to the head". Too many wannabe doctors in the Trainer fraternity will call every bump to the head a concussion these days.

What a surprise a Brighton bloke criticising trainers ... yet again. You guys need to stop having a go at so called "wannabe doctors" and stop thinking about 20 years ago. Anyone who doesnt treat concussion as a serious injury is an idiot and has there head in the sand. Then again you do realise that having a guy who perhaps should have retired a few years back probably isnt a great idea? Yah I am sure he knows his stuff but can he still do his job? After watching him work when we played you and then seeing Hank's mob have to stretcher off 2 Porties players for them on the weekend I am sure glad my kids play at the Valleys where I know they are in safe hands

[Down the Hill]

Sloppy attempt to spoil Harden Up. You don't live up to your name do you !!!

In reference to your other comments, I believe the SFL is really clean these days and see very few reportable incidents but you are right the majority of reportable incidents do go unreported. The 2 field umpires can't see everything but we are also paying good money to goal and boundary umpires and these 4 seem to turn a blind eye to everything.

There was a Cove player (and we haven't forgotten who he was either) throwing haymakers which connected right in front of a goal umpire on Saturday night. The goal umpire ran out from his goals to try and attract the attention of a field umpire which means he saw what was going on but no report was laid. And this was not the first time I've seen a goal or boundary umpire pretend they didn't see a reportable offence.

I'm sick of hearing about umpires and SFL officials telling clubs "why don't you lodge a club report". Why should club volunteers have to do that when there are 6 paid officials out there with at least 1 at any given time in a position to see everything that's happening on the ground.

[afc9798]

Not sure what you are trying to say regarding concussions 1919. And lets not get carried away with the amount of concussions. 20 years ago a knock to the head was exactly that "a knock to the head". Too many wannabe doctors in the Trainer fraternity will call every bump to the head a concussion these days.

What a surprise a Brighton bloke criticising trainers ... yet again. You guys need to stop having a go at so called "wannabe doctors" and stop thinking about 20 years ago. Anyone who doesnt treat concussion as a serious injury is an idiot and has there head in the sand. Then again you do realise that having a guy who perhaps should have retired a few years back probably isnt a great idea? Yah I am sure he knows his stuff but can he still do his job? After watching him work when we played you and then seeing Hank's mob have to stretcher off 2 Porties players for them on the weekend I am sure glad my kids play at the Valleys where I know they are in safe hands

Happy Valley is definitely blessed with the best medical/training staff of any club I've ever been to. When you add the student physios to the mix, the players are in very good hands from subbies through to A Grade. Hank is a legend and the fact that he has copped abuse from opposition people in recent years for ensuring player welfare is a disgrace. I'm very happy to have my boys welfare in the hands of Hank and his team when required.

[Down the Hill]

Not sure what you are trying to say regarding concussions 1919. And lets not get carried away with the amount of concussions. 20 years ago a knock to the head was exactly that "a knock to the head". Too many wannabe doctors in the Trainer fraternity will call every bump to the head a concussion these days.

What a surprise a Brighton bloke criticising trainers ... yet again. You guys need to stop having a go at so called "wannabe doctors" and stop thinking about 20 years ago. Anyone who doesnt treat concussion as a serious injury is an idiot and has there head in the sand. Then again you do realise that having a guy who perhaps should have retired a few years back probably isnt a great idea? Yah I am sure he knows his stuff but can he still do his job? After watching him work when we played you and then seeing Hank's mob have to stretcher off 2 Porties players for them on the weekend I am sure glad my kids play at the Valleys where I know they are in safe hands

All I'm saying is that it is too easy to say that a player had a certain injury on the opinion of a person who is not qualified to diagnose, particularly something that is a "hidden injury" such as concussion.

And please keep your opinion on other clubs trainers to yourself. Otherwise I could question why several clubs have trainers who are heavy smokers. Is this sending the right message to those kids that are supposedly in safe hands.

[afc9798]

Not sure what you are trying to say regarding concussions 1919. And lets not get carried away with the amount of concussions. 20 years ago a knock to the head was exactly that "a knock to the head". Too many wannabe doctors in the Trainer fraternity will call every bump to the head a concussion these days.

What a surprise a Brighton bloke criticising trainers ... yet again. You guys need to stop having a go at so called "wannabe doctors" and stop thinking about 20 years ago. Anyone who doesnt treat concussion as a serious injury is an idiot and has there head in the sand. Then again you do realise that having a guy who perhaps should have retired a few years back probably isnt a great idea? Yah I am sure he knows his stuff but can he still do his job? After watching him work when we played you and then seeing Hank's mob have to stretcher off 2 Porties players for them on the weekend I am sure glad my kids play at the Valleys where I know they are in safe hands

All I'm saying is that it is too easy to say that a player had a certain injury on the opinion of a person who is not qualified to diagnose, particularly something that is a "hidden injury" such as concussion.

And please keep your opinion on other clubs trainers to yourself. Otherwise I could question why several clubs have trainers who are heavy smokers. Is this sending the right message to those kids that are supposedly in safe hands.

Very long bow you draw there DTH. What next, no one is allowed to have a beer at the footy at any time in case little Johnny gets the wrong idea. On one hand you're happy to criticise trainers for protecting player welfare, yet you think the fact that someone smokes is a bigger issue. If a trainer was having a smoke whilst treating a player, I'd agree wholeheartedly, but never seen this happen.

I would far rather an over zealous trainer, than have someone seriously affected by a head/brain injury with long term consequences to their wellbeing. Strange priorities.

[1919]

Not sure what you are trying to say regarding concussions 1919. And lets not get carried away with the amount of concussions. 20 years ago a knock to the head was exactly that "a knock to the head". Too many wannabe doctors in the Trainer fraternity will call every bump to the head a concussion these days.

Yeah you keep thinking like that DTH.....meanwhile I'll continue to worry about the two Townies sent for brain scans by independant doctors because each had total memory loss i.e. absolutely no recollection of having played a game of football at EFC on June 15.....

[afc9798]

Not sure what you are trying to say regarding concussions 1919. And lets not get carried away with the amount of concussions. 20 years ago a knock to the head was exactly that "a knock to the head". Too many wannabe doctors in the Trainer fraternity will call every bump to the head a concussion these days.

Yeah you keep thinking like that DTH.....meanwhile I'll continue to worry about the two Townies sent for brain scans by independant doctors because each had total memory loss i.e. absolutely no recollection of having played a game of football at EFC on June 15.....

I just hope your trainers didn't have a cigarette, now that would be serious.

[HardenUp]

[quote="Down the Hill"]Sloppy attempt to spoil Harden Up. You don't live up to your name do you !!!

If you feel untoward regarding Cove alleged incident in the goal square, then how do you think the parents felt when Brighton player deliberatly went out of his way to hurt/injure Towns player, right in front of the umpire. The bloke couldn't even take his kick. This is the type of incident that will finish the SFL one day. The Brighton player should have been sent off, bare bones minimum a 25/50m free awarded!!

In my day, If i whacked someone in a mrking contest or tackle as it was a lil more liberal back then, you would have the guts to seek out the player after the game, apologise and offer to buy him a beer. Not that I condone that behaviour as it should be ruled out, but at least have the aggotts to shake the blokes hand and show your face in the club rooms after!!

[Look Good In Leather]

it's also a direct result of getting first to the footy!!!! Not many players playing from behind get many free kicks awarded to them...

from a couple that I saw it didn't make any difference if Towns player got the ball first or in front but would otherwise agree with you. Way I see it is if everyone talks about the umps after a game then they, the umpires, have failed. The day SFL umpires stop guessing and take control of games by reporting and sending off players for any act behind the ball, will be the first of many steps the league can take in restoring the ulmost defunct league.

The nature of acts behind the play is that they are often outside of the umpires field of vision. If the umpires do not see it, how would you suggest they deal with it other than guessing?

By the way, what is almost defunct about this league?

[Down the Hill]

OK guys, you win. Play on. However I do wonder how any of us even let our kids play such a dangerous game !!!! My lad also goes to the HV skate park and does somersaults and all sorts of tricks on his scooter on concrete. I might tell him to stick to that. Much safer than footy.

PS: I have seen my "favourite" SFL trainer with smoke hanging out of mouth attending to a junior player. At least he has a half decent haircut these days.

[Look Good In Leather]

I'm sick of hearing about umpires and SFL officials telling clubs "why don't you lodge a club report". Why should club volunteers have to do that when there are 6 paid officials out there with at least 1 at any given time in a position to see everything that's happening on the ground.

One of the best comments from you DTH for a long time. I have no time for "club reports", the majority of the time it is just disgruntled losers looking for revenge. There is a small window in a circumstance where serious injury has occurred, and this should be dealt with appropriately, but the majority of the time it seems reports are lodged by disgruntled officials when no injury or even hurt has occurred (except to maybe an ego or two).

Deal with it on the field or not at all, there are so many ways to get your revenge fairly.

Sadly there are some clubs in the league that have turned "club reports" into a sport of its own.