Southern Football League

[Down the Hill]

Can't believe I'm doing this but I will stick up for MF. It seems some are accusing him of saying "he was into Macca all day" but that was some tosser who goes by Bloods4Life people. I think MF's contribution on this issue has been quite reasonable in the circumstances. There you go MF - you may need to frame this post.

[Mister Footy]

Barracker I dIdnt private message you so don't know what you're on about and Edwardstown have stated in their report to the SFL that they have video footage of the incident - perhaps check with them before you have a go at me

you're making this up as you go right? can you dig yourself into a deeper hole?

Think you are the one with the shovel - which part you questioning the video footage or your fictional PM? Check with your club

DTH appreciate it mate

[Bloods4Life]

Can't believe I'm doing this but I will stick up for MF. It seems some are accusing him of saying "he was into Macca all day" but that was some tosser who goes by Bloods4Life people. I think MF's contribution on this issue has been quite reasonable in the circumstances. There you go MF - you may need to frame this post.

Tosser?? Been called worse I guess, at least I can admit it when I get it wrong unlike yourself and did message a couple of posters to say so. No worries keyboard warrior

[Down the Hill]

You could have made your peace publicly rather than by PM because it was a pretty stupid statement at the time. I'll retract Tosser - but only just.

[1919]

Barracker I dIdnt private message you so don't know what you're on about and Edwardstown have stated in their report to the SFL that they have video footage of the incident - perhaps check with them before you have a go at me

you're making this up as you go right? can you dig yourself into a deeper hole?

Think you are the one with the shovel - which part you questioning the video footage or your fictional PM? Check with your club

DTH appreciate it mate

Well the PM matter has been cleared up, so I guess it's the other. Happy to be corrected and apologise if I'm wrong....I'll do the checking and get back to you.

[shoe boy]

Did anyone on this forum actually see the incident?If not it seems a lot of people are making the assumption that he is guilty. I'm not saying he's not, as I wasn't there, but surely we should wait till it is investigated before making outlandish statements as being stood down for finals etc. Imagine how you would feel if you were stood down on, what is currently, hearsay and then found to have not had a case to answer.

Agreed the SFL should pull their heads out their arses long enough to sort out the issue, before the weekend, but let's face it the current administration have a habit of ignoring the negative aspects of the league as long as they can.

I was watching a game elsewhere when I received a phone call from a league life member just after the incident and he witnessed the strike and in his words "thug act".

[Look Good In Leather]

Did anyone on this forum actually see the incident?

If not it seems a lot of people are making the assumption that he is guilty. I'm not saying he's not, as I wasn't there, but surely we should wait till it is investigated before making outlandish statements as being stood down for finals etc. Imagine how you would feel if you were stood down on, what is currently, hearsay and then found to have not had a case to answer.

Agreed the SFL should pull their heads out their arses long enough to sort out the issue, before the weekend, but let's face it the current administration have a habit of ignoring the negative aspects of the league as long as they can.

Agree - no one seems to have seen the incident and everyone assumes it was an unprovoked act behind play
Dont get me wrong not saying that HV dont feel for the kid but there are 2 sides to every story.

Innocent until proven guilty and lets see what happens at the tribunal. Supposedly Edwardstown have it on tape and if that is the case was the person videoing the game aiming the camera at where the play was or the 50m, 100m or 20 km behind play that the incident supposedly took place? If it is on tape then all shall be revealed next Tuesday night. Until then there is a guy who has a pretty good record of being a good bloke on the field and off that is being constantly slandered on this forum. We have all said our piece surely its time to move on?

The question has to be asked why it would take so long to convene a tribunal, the board had their meeting Monday night and surely would have received the club report by then, else it would be an investigation committee.

Throws an interesting situation into this week, player plays this week and helps his team to a Grand Final. Supposing he is found guilty, will the tribunal then hand out a lesser penalty due to the emotion of rubbing out a player for a GF? (ie 3 weeks instead of 5 weeks as missing the GF far outweighs missing 5 minor round games)
Surely you would want this out of the way earlier than the week leading up to the GF?
If he is found not-guilty, is is an unfair distraction on the player this weekend in a cut-throat final.

[Mister Footy]

HV would definitely prefer to have this out of the way this week rather than next week but they are a tight unit and will rally to support their leader.

Lets also not pretend that those clubs like Noarlunga and their posters dont have a vested interest in making sure he gets rubbed out.

Interesting that Macka didnt play when we beat Reynella early in the season, was in the best players when we played Emus, was in best best players when Noarlunga beat us by 4 points about a month ago and didnt play when we beat them first time we played them.

[shoe boy]

HV would definitely prefer to have this out of the way this week rather than next week but they are a tight unit and will rally to support their leader.

Lets also not pretend that those clubs like Noarlunga and their posters dont have a vested interest in making sure he gets rubbed out.Interesting that Macka didnt play when we beat Reynella early in the season, was in the best players when we played Emus, was in best best players when Noarlunga beat us by 4 points about a month ago and didnt play when we beat them first time we played them.

MF,this is a forum to discuss ALL that is the SFL,therefore my posts are info I have and as far as I am concerned this incident has tarnished the good work all at HV have done to be the bench mark of the SFL.(ALSO THE VIEWS OF MYSELF ARE NOT NECESSARILY THOSE OF THE NFC)

[tigerpie]

Was talkng to a bloke the other day who didnt SEE the incident but HEARD it.
Now unless you are Mike Tyson, its pretty difficult to flush someone you are in a scuffle with well enough to make it audible to a guy probably 50-60 metres away.
The damage thats been inflicted has to have come from a king hit...again unless you are Tyson.

Having sympathy for a bloke missing a GF for belting someone and getting caught is ridiculous. They arent even there yet!
Anyone remember what Barry Hall got for belting Staker....that should be the benchmark.

As for the accused he should fess up now, plead guilty. and spare his club the distraction before a big game against the Flies.

[liverpool kiss]

did he front tribunal last night, and will we hear outcome today.
I'm guessing by the sound of what happened 5-8 weeks.

[finals fever]

Agree with Shoe Boy here - He has tarnished the HVFC from an external view and I'm sure has disappointed a few from an internal view. An A Grade skipper is the role model for the club and that of all the kids, minis right through to younger senior players. They look up to the A Grade skipper and one day aspire to become... I have been involved in the SFL now for 6 years and it has always been well known that the alleged is an undisciplined hard nut with very sharp elbows. An effective player but if I were coach I wouldnt be putting someone like that as the face of my senior side.
He now owes HVFC!

[Down the Hill]

My understanding is that the rules allow a Club Report to be deferred by 1 week by the club of the reported player but can be heard the same week if the club prefers that option. I'm an expert on this because we have been on the end of several club reports from 1 club in particular. The SFL can't over-ride this without a change of rules otherwise they would set a precedent for future club reports regardless of the severity of the allegation. The deferral rule is because clubs usually aren't notified of a club report until mid-morning on a Monday and the tribunal usually sits on a Tuesday.

So it was really in HV's hands to have the matter heard this week. If they deferred it and he plays this week then I don't think any of us are comfortable with that but if they deferred it to give themselves more time to prepare etc. and decided not to pick him this week and ask that this week be factored into any suspension then all good to HV.

[liverpool kiss]

imagine if they played him this week....

[Speccy02]

Did anyone on this forum actually see the incident?

If not it seems a lot of people are making the assumption that he is guilty. I'm not saying he's not, as I wasn't there, but surely we should wait till it is investigated before making outlandish statements as being stood down for finals etc. Imagine how you would feel if you were stood down on, what is currently, hearsay and then found to have not had a case to answer.

Agreed the SFL should pull their heads out their arses long enough to sort out the issue, before the weekend, but let's face it the current administration have a habit of ignoring the negative aspects of the league as long as they can.

Agree - no one seems to have seen the incident and everyone assumes it was an unprovoked act behind play
Dont get me wrong not saying that HV dont feel for the kid but there are 2 sides to every story.

Innocent until proven guilty and lets see what happens at the tribunal. Supposedly Edwardstown have it on tape and if that is the case was the person videoing the game aiming the camera at where the play was or the 50m, 100m or 20 km behind play that the incident supposedly took place? If it is on tape then all shall be revealed next Tuesday night. Until then there is a guy who has a pretty good record of being a good bloke on the field and off that is being constantly slandered on this forum. We have all said our piece surely its time to move on?

The question has to be asked why it would take so long to convene a tribunal, the board had their meeting Monday night and surely would have received the club report by then, else it would be an investigation committee.

Throws an interesting situation into this week, player plays this week and helps his team to a Grand Final. Supposing he is found guilty, will the tribunal then hand out a lesser penalty due to the emotion of rubbing out a player for a GF? (ie 3 weeks instead of 5 weeks as missing the GF far outweighs missing 5 minor round games)
Surely you would want this out of the way earlier than the week leading up to the GF?
If he is found not-guilty, is is an unfair distraction on the player this weekend in a cut-throat final.

The other interesting aspect to all this LGIL is how would Reynella feel if they went down by, say less than a goal, and the aforementioned player is high up in the best players, at either end of the ground Valley are a better side with him in it as we all know. Then goes to tribunal and gets rubbed out, so effectively he wasn't guilty before this game but suddenly is a week after.

My other 2 cents worth on this is the severity of this poor blokes injuries, surely this is enough of a unique situation that this hearing should've been heard this week, like employers have, the League have an obligation to provide a safe workplace, having a guy (potentially if he is picked this week) running around with this alleged incident hanging over his head in my eyes is not providing a safe work place.

That aside, Emus v Vikings GF for mine

[HardenUp]

[quote="finals fever"]Agree with Shoe Boy here - He has tarnished the HVFC from an external view and I'm sure has disappointed a few from an internal view. An A Grade skipper is the role model for the club and that of all the kids, minis right through to younger senior players. They look up to the A Grade skipper and one day aspire to become... I have been involved in the SFL now for 6 years and it has always been well known that the alleged is an undisciplined hard nut with very sharp elbows. An effective player but if I were coach I wouldnt be putting someone like that as the face of my senior side.
He now owes HVFC![/quote

What are EFC owed?
2 Assaults in recent weeks.........
Great endorsement of the SFL!!!!!

In each instance, offender has a chance to actually show some courage by attempting to make amends with club and player. Such lack of action shows true personality of offenders not what they have done in the past.

[tigerpie]

Time to prepare for what...his defence?

What a joke. An sfl official should have informed HV that the player was reported for striking if what ive read in previous posts that it was seen by said official.
Surely he cant play this weekend?

[Look Good In Leather]

HV would definitely prefer to have this out of the way this week rather than next week but they are a tight unit and will rally to support their leader.

Lets also not pretend that those clubs like Noarlunga and their posters dont have a vested interest in making sure he gets rubbed out.

Interesting that Macka didnt play when we beat Reynella early in the season, was in the best players when we played Emus, was in best best players when Noarlunga beat us by 4 points about a month ago and didnt play when we beat them first time we played them.

What do Noarlunga have to gain out of him being rubbed out?

[tigerpie]

i think a reynella v mvale would be a fitting GF, considering they only played once this year.

[Tubby]

Morphy Pk v Reynella for me.