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Re: Southern Football League

Postby afc9798 » Fri Sep 27, 2013 2:40 pm

vics01 wrote:Can't help it but I know this will fire up W&D, AB and a few others.. Reading the Guardian Messenger sport and see that Murphy would like to bring more of his Ex retired bay mates to the Roo's. But reflects that "There's a Points thing" and he would be restricted by the SFL player points system which prevents too many SANFL players in at once..


Really Byron that is exactly what the system is designed for to stop clubs loading up, it is meant to even the competition. I still fail to understand how bringing in highly paid or credentialed retired SANFL footballers is actually building a club for the future, after all they won' t have that many years left before they also retire and leave a club back where they were.

Depth Byron is not about retired SANFL players it is about building from the bottom up.
All power to the club that brings in the occasional big name to top off the work they have done, but loading to win a flag is and will not achieve bugger all for a clubs long term future. Football history is littered with clubs who have gone out bought a flag or two then just a quickly ended up back down the shit tube.

Although from the rumor mill they may be more likely to get paid at the Roos than at Tigerland.


Looking forward to Moe's input.... How long before Morphies change their club colours to black and gold, then we can be confused between 4 teams in the comp.
I guess we could negotiate a bulk discount on the fabric....
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby Deep Heat » Fri Sep 27, 2013 3:40 pm

Vics so you dont think having former SANFL league footballers at a club would help develop the players in the juniors.
Aswell as the B Grade by the way they train and football knowledge. Having these players around is how you develop a football club .
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby WHEELS&DEALS » Fri Sep 27, 2013 4:25 pm

vics01 wrote:Can't help it but I know this will fire up W&D, AB and a few others.. Reading the Guardian Messenger sport and see that Murphy would like to bring more of his Ex retired bay mates to the Roo's. But reflects that "There's a Points thing" and he would be restricted by the SFL player points system which prevents too many SANFL players in at once..


Really Byron that is exactly what the system is designed for to stop clubs loading up, it is meant to even the competition. I still fail to understand how bringing in highly paid or credentialed retired SANFL footballers is actually building a club for the future, after all they won' t have that many years left before they also retire and leave a club back where they were.

Depth Byron is not about retired SANFL players it is about building from the bottom up.

All power to the club that brings in the occasional big name to top off the work they have done, but loading to win a flag is and will not achieve bugger all for a clubs long term future. Football history is littered with clubs who have gone out bought a flag or two then just a quickly ended up back down the shit tube.

Although from the rumor mill they may be more likely to get paid at the Roos than at Tigerland.


No Need to fire up Vics01, I just like trying to answer some of the stupid things that come from your keyboard. Why should players who have given years of service to the SANFL be punished when they retire. After they have finished playing at the higher levels a lot of them just want to go to a club where they have a few mates playing and have a kick with them. Byron obviously has a lot of mates that want to come and play footy with him and because of the points system they wont all be able to play together. I'd say bringing players to your club that can bring more players to your club is building. Just because they played SANFL, does this mean they can't play at a lower level together. The points system will be here for a while but there has to be some give and take when all some of these boys want to do is play together. Get the right people into your club and your whole club will grow.

And what's that last sentence, player would more likely get paid at the Roos than tigerland? I thought you said we ran out of money about a month ago. Must have been something else you got wrong.
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby HardenUp » Fri Sep 27, 2013 5:15 pm

After the 'ilustrious' SFL board grant them extra points, again, Morphy Parks will be able to recruit Bays & Pies players.....
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby afc9798 » Fri Sep 27, 2013 5:47 pm

In all seriousness, I don't have any isse with MVP recruiting ex Bays or where ever they come from. If they can afford it, good luck to them and these guys do add to the interest in the competition.
I would not agree with additional points being granted though, the current system is adequate and provides some protection from clubs going over the top.

It will be interesting to see how many players are lost to clubs this year with the rumoured big bucks being talked about in the country clubs and some clubs in the SFL tightening their player budgets. All just speculation at this point, but just have a feeling the pillage may be very real this time.
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby vics01 » Fri Sep 27, 2013 6:20 pm

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No Need to fire up Vics01, I just like trying to answer some of the stupid things that come from your keyboard. Why should players who have given years of service to the SANFL be punished when they retire. After they have finished playing at the higher levels a lot of them just want to go to a club where they have a few mates playing and have a kick with them. Byron obviously has a lot of mates that want to come and play footy with him and because of the points system they wont all be able to play together. I'd say bringing players to your club that can bring more players to your club is building. Just because they played SANFL, does this mean they can't play at a lower level together. The points system will be here for a while but there has to be some give and take when all some of these boys want to do is play together. Get the right people into your club and your whole club will grow.

And what's that last sentence, player would more likely get paid at the Roos than tigerland? I thought you said we ran out of money about a month ago. Must have been something else you got wrong.


I believe I used the term when the money runs out not that it has run out which you guys assured us that it hasn't. I can see recruiting retired players to a club will build it for the future. No one is saying they should be punished upon retirement however loading up with MATES who may give you 2 to 3 years is not why you were given the points. Loading up is a false sense of security.. GIVE and TAKE can you explain how that should work. Say the reigning Premier has 8 to 10 guys leave for various reasons, I reckon give and take would mean they do not have to be stuck on 9 points they can apply and be give 15 or more to replace what they have lost at the expense of every other club who has to give some points up in order for the premier to have a few extra. In other words when Mates win a flag and retire on mass will you again ask for more points to rebuild??


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Vics so you dont think having former SANFL league footballers at a club would help develop the players in the juniors.
Aswell as the B Grade by the way they train and football knowledge. Having these players around is how you develop a football club .


Never said I don't think SANFL retirees should not come to your club, any player who plays or trains at a higher level will always bring something back to a community club.. It is about the reasons why and how the points are granted. To read the article it smacks of loading up for a flag, which is fantastic for any club to win but given they have retired once to play with the mates what is the likelihood of having them around for 5 to 10 years after achieving a flag with mates??
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby Roo Ted » Sat Sep 28, 2013 9:26 pm

vics01 wrote:Can't help it but I know this will fire up W&D, AB and a few others.. Reading the Guardian Messenger sport and see that Murphy would like to bring more of his Ex retired bay mates to the Roo's. But reflects that "There's a Points thing" and he would be restricted by the SFL player points system which prevents too many SANFL players in at once..


Really Byron that is exactly what the system is designed for to stop clubs loading up, it is meant to even the competition. I still fail to understand how bringing in highly paid or credentialed retired SANFL footballers is actually building a club for the future, after all they won' t have that many years left before they also retire and leave a club back where they were.

Depth Byron is not about retired SANFL players it is about building from the bottom up.

All power to the club that brings in the occasional big name to top off the work they have done, but loading to win a flag is and will not achieve bugger all for a clubs long term future. Football history is littered with clubs who have gone out bought a flag or two then just a quickly ended up back down the shit tube.

Although from the rumor mill they may be more likely to get paid at the Roos than at Tigerland.



Oh Vics you're so funny. You'd jump at anything with a heartbeat and hairy rear end to make a comment about us. What you don't think Byron was having a lend of the reporter so he could write his little article about next year.

We've just finished our season, talks probably haven't even begun about next year yet.
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby Roo Ted » Sat Sep 28, 2013 9:29 pm

vics01 wrote:
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No Need to fire up Vics01, I just like trying to answer some of the stupid things that come from your keyboard. Why should players who have given years of service to the SANFL be punished when they retire. After they have finished playing at the higher levels a lot of them just want to go to a club where they have a few mates playing and have a kick with them. Byron obviously has a lot of mates that want to come and play footy with him and because of the points system they wont all be able to play together. I'd say bringing players to your club that can bring more players to your club is building. Just because they played SANFL, does this mean they can't play at a lower level together. The points system will be here for a while but there has to be some give and take when all some of these boys want to do is play together. Get the right people into your club and your whole club will grow.

And what's that last sentence, player would more likely get paid at the Roos than tigerland? I thought you said we ran out of money about a month ago. Must have been something else you got wrong.


I believe I used the term when the money runs out not that it has run out which you guys assured us that it hasn't. I can see recruiting retired players to a club will build it for the future. No one is saying they should be punished upon retirement however loading up with MATES who may give you 2 to 3 years is not why you were given the points. Loading up is a false sense of security.. GIVE and TAKE can you explain how that should work. Say the reigning Premier has 8 to 10 guys leave for various reasons, I reckon give and take would mean they do not have to be stuck on 9 points they can apply and be give 15 or more to replace what they have lost at the expense of every other club who has to give some points up in order for the premier to have a few extra. In other words when Mates win a flag and retire on mass will you again ask for more points to rebuild??


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Vics so you dont think having former SANFL league footballers at a club would help develop the players in the juniors.
Aswell as the B Grade by the way they train and football knowledge. Having these players around is how you develop a football club .


Never said I don't think SANFL retirees should not come to your club, any player who plays or trains at a higher level will always bring something back to a community club.. It is about the reasons why and how the points are granted. To read the article it smacks of loading up for a flag, which is fantastic for any club to win but given they have retired once to play with the mates what is the likelihood of having them around for 5 to 10 years after achieving a flag with mates??



Every club has points to play with Vics and isn't it up to the SFL board how they distribute them from one year to the next. If we chose to tap out each year then that's our perogative to do so. The old saying goes you snooze you lose!

PS from what I have been told it was only one year we received extra points, each year since we have been under the limit.
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby marbles » Mon Sep 30, 2013 2:02 pm

word goin around about 4 or 5 sfl clubs joining saafl
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby afc9798 » Mon Sep 30, 2013 2:32 pm

marbles wrote:word goin around about 4 or 5 sfl clubs joining saafl


Ah the annual 'X' clubs are leaving the SFL to join SAAFL, 'Y' clubs are leaving the HFL to join the SFL etc etc.
I guess if it gets posted every year, then eventually it will be right at some stage....
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby Look Good In Leather » Mon Sep 30, 2013 3:49 pm

marbles wrote:word goin around about 4 or 5 sfl clubs joining saafl


Did you get that from the Div 7 thread, the one where they had Morphett Vale, Brighton, Morphettville Park, Marion and Cove joining Div 7?

Then some smart alec thought that those teams would struggle to be competitive in that division:

Phantom Gossiper wrote:SFL lacks any real depth as well, really it's a pretty crappy comp!



Hang on... that discussion was started by you

marbles wrote:personally, with houghton, north pines, flinders uni, and now central united now the surplus A-grade sides in saafl who are forced to play cgrade side in div 7....

if the saafl could offer a deal to the sfl clubs marion, cove, brighton, morphettville park, edwardstown & the other southern club on adelaide plains, offer them a deal they couldnt refuse...

we'd have a 10 team division 7 agrade sides only, then hence the birth of the c-grade super league! haha



4-5 clubs pal? Does it qualify as a rumour or "word goin around" if you are the only one talking about it?
If your claims were reasonable and said one, we may have believed you
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby as you wood » Mon Sep 30, 2013 4:03 pm

Look Good In Leather wrote:
marbles wrote:word goin around about 4 or 5 sfl clubs joining saafl


Did you get that from the Div 7 thread, the one where they had Morphett Vale, Brighton, Morphettville Park, Marion and Cove joining Div 7?

Then some smart alec thought that those teams would struggle to be competitive in that division:

Phantom Gossiper wrote:SFL lacks any real depth as well, really it's a pretty crappy comp!



Hang on... that discussion was started by you

marbles wrote:personally, with houghton, north pines, flinders uni, and now central united now the surplus A-grade sides in saafl who are forced to play cgrade side in div 7....

if the saafl could offer a deal to the sfl clubs marion, cove, brighton, morphettville park, edwardstown & the other southern club on adelaide plains, offer them a deal they couldnt refuse...

we'd have a 10 team division 7 agrade sides only, then hence the birth of the c-grade super league! haha



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I recon your Club and Brighton would fit in nicely in Div 7, not for football skills but you may be able to show off your thuggery skills :roll: :shock:
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby marbles » Mon Sep 30, 2013 4:54 pm

even if 5 of ya clubs did join div 7 only 2 of ya's could make the granny so the other 3 clubs still couldnt win a div 7 flag if they tried lol
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby afc9798 » Mon Sep 30, 2013 5:54 pm

Look Good In Leather wrote:
marbles wrote:word goin around about 4 or 5 sfl clubs joining saafl


Did you get that from the Div 7 thread, the one where they had Morphett Vale, Brighton, Morphettville Park, Marion and Cove joining Div 7?

Then some smart alec thought that those teams would struggle to be competitive in that division:

Phantom Gossiper wrote:SFL lacks any real depth as well, really it's a pretty crappy comp!



Hang on... that discussion was started by you

marbles wrote:personally, with houghton, north pines, flinders uni, and now central united now the surplus A-grade sides in saafl who are forced to play cgrade side in div 7....

if the saafl could offer a deal to the sfl clubs marion, cove, brighton, morphettville park, edwardstown & the other southern club on adelaide plains, offer them a deal they couldnt refuse...

we'd have a 10 team division 7 agrade sides only, then hence the birth of the c-grade super league! haha



4-5 clubs pal? Does it qualify as a rumour or "word goin around" if you are the only one talking about it?
If your claims were reasonable and said one, we may have believed you


Div 7 eh....Yep I can see a lot of SFL clubs really wanting to go to SAAFL in Div 7.....I wonder how many of the people suggesting this have ever actually seen a SFL game.
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby spot on » Mon Sep 30, 2013 6:08 pm

marbles wrote:even if 5 of ya clubs did join div 7 only 2 of ya's could make the granny so the other 3 clubs still couldnt win a div 7 flag if they tried lol

Marbles, I think you have lost your marbles.
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby Look Good In Leather » Mon Sep 30, 2013 6:54 pm

marbles wrote:even if 5 of ya clubs did join div 7 only 2 of ya's could make the granny so the other 3 clubs still couldnt win a div 7 flag if they tried lol


You do have a point :)
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby Look Good In Leather » Mon Sep 30, 2013 7:01 pm

as you wood wrote:
LGIL
I recon your Club and Brighton would fit in nicely in Div 7, not for football skills but you may be able to show off your thuggery skills :roll: :shock:


Where you would get that idea from AYW, no thuggery here. Coming from Edwardstown, you have lodged club reports against other teams but not ours, not sure why you would lump us in with Brighton.
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby marbles » Mon Sep 30, 2013 7:11 pm

isnt it logical though?

sfl has a surplus of clubs - and refuse 2 divisions, and also force bottom clubs to remain destined as.... a bottom club

and the saafl has vacancies - where also premierships are regulary in reach, and good times are only a couple of recruits away
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby Look Good In Leather » Tue Oct 01, 2013 10:09 am

marbles wrote:isnt it logical though?

sfl has a surplus of clubs - and refuse 2 divisions, and also force bottom clubs to remain destined as.... a bottom club

and the saafl has vacancies - where also premierships are regulary in reach, and good times are only a couple of recruits away


Kind of devalues it doesn't it?

Here's a premiership for showing up!
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby woodublieve12 » Tue Oct 01, 2013 10:17 am

Look Good In Leather wrote:
marbles wrote:isnt it logical though?

sfl has a surplus of clubs - and refuse 2 divisions, and also force bottom clubs to remain destined as.... a bottom club

and the saafl has vacancies - where also premierships are regulary in reach, and good times are only a couple of recruits away


Kind of devalues it doesn't it?

Here's a premiership for showing up!

not at all... gives everyone the opportunity to improve...
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