GLOBE DERBY 9/6/07

[SCD]

R1 - 7 and 10 on top from 8,9 and place hopes to 1,2,4,6
R2 - 5 should win.. 1,7,8,10 can run a place
R3 - 3 e/w special from 1,6,7,8,9,10
R4 - 9 e/w special main dangers 1,10 and place hopes 2,4,6,7
R5 - Think 1 can lead and just about win.. main danger 2,9 place hopes 4,6,7,8,10
R6 - 6,9,10 the main hopes (9 off a 3 week break + back to 1800m..) from 1,2,7
R7 - 7 should just about win - main danger 1,5 and place hopes 3,4,6,9
R8 - 8,10 the main hopes from 3,5,7,9,11
R9 - 4 should lead.. is a place hope.. 10 should win from 1,3,4,7,8,9
R10 - what ants.... 1 e/w from 4,5,7,8,9

suggested Bets
R2 - 5w
R3 - 3 e/w
R4 - 9 e/w
R7 - 7 place special

[mal]

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BAYMAN turned $5k to a million $ in the million $ challenge in 2 months !!!!!!

Bayman what did you say to that genie, when you were afforded a choice ,
the Million or Advertiser prices for a year ?????????????????????????????????

[bayman]

r1 7,8 on top from 1,2,3,9
r2 5,8 on top from 1,6,7,10
r3 1,3,7,8
r4 1 an e/w special (2 weeks in a row), from 2,4,9
r5 1,7 on top from 2,6,9,10
r6 3 almost a good thing from 2,5,10
r7 7 a moral (rated 8/11) from 1,4,5
r8 10 a moral (rated 1/2) from 7,8,9
r9 a raffle this one main four appear 4,7,8,10
r10 4 e/w special (if you can get e/w, i have it 5/2), from 1,8 with next best 6

suggested bet(s)
r4 no 1 e/w
r7 no 7 win
r8 no 10 win

malfair lay(s)
r3 no 6 (if 5/2 or less)
r9 no 6 (if 4/1 or less)

good luck on the punt

[mal]

GAWLER THAT RACE
-----------------------
I am still puzzled
We had a race where only 3 horses finished last night at Gawler
It was correctly called as a race
But as only 3 horses finished the race the pick 4 was abandoned
WHATS WRONG WITH PAYING 1-2-3 and any number for 4th ????
I just cannot work out the logic.

BETFAIR SKULLDUGGERY
------------------------

Word is there was a suspicious race last week at the trots
An amazing set of odds were offered in a race arousing considerable conjecture.
No other details
G do you know anything ?

___________________________________________________________________________
LATE MAL
----------

R1-7 SMASHING SAMPRAS[$5-50]
No The JuggerMALnaut in this, drawn for a cosy run and will be right in this
EW [PLACE special]

R2-8 ZED [$3-50]
likely to get a good run through, sure to go very close
EW [ PLACE special]

R5-1 CARNIVAL ROSE [$2-80]
at last a decent draw
EW

Try EW all of those, they should all be there at the finish
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OTHER RACE COMMENTS
-----------------------

R3-6 PLACE
R4-1 PLACE
R6-3 EW
R7-7 WIN
R8-10 WIN
R9-7 PLACE
R10-8 PLACE


BARRIER 10 1800M
---------------------
There are some favoured runners drawn barrier 10 at the bogeybayman barrier

R2-10[$3-50] BAKERANDTHEbayMAN poor odds must be a risk
R3-10 [$3-50] BAD BOY DONALD worst price Ive seen this year simply can not win
R4-10 [$4] BAD BOY NITRO might win but needs to put in a herculian performance
R6-10[$2-20] BROTHER MOON if they drive PROPERLY in this is bad odds

All the above are good horses but beware the BogeyBAYMAN barrier
If G and DUTCHY can lay these on Betfair at similar odds, I think there is $$$ to be made

[bayman]

mal i'll answer your top 2 ?'s they wont pay any other runner for 4th so they can get a jackpot on albion park race 1 like they always do, personally i think whenever there is a jackpot it should stay in the same state it occured at

betfair= the malganaut from what i've 'alledgedly' heard

[mal]

mal i'll answer your top 2 ?'s they wont pay any other runner for 4th so they can get a jackpot on albion park race 1 like they always do, personally i think whenever there is a jackpot it should stay in the same state it occured at

betfair= the malganaut from what i've 'alledgedly' heard

Bayman if the alledged horse The JuggerMALnaut is the alledged horse
Did they do it to make $$$
OR
Did some jealous people out there do it to stuff up my LATE MAL tip

Also I dont like Jackpots [sorry JJ]
There is so much $$$ invested in P4s and Trebs/Quads etc that thier
should be a dividend irrespective on that particular race
There should be a winner to every outcome.
For instance I take a P4 ONLY if I like that particular race, when its
jackpotted to another race it may be a race I am not interested in

[jackpot jim]

mal i'll answer your top 2 ?'s they wont pay any other runner for 4th so they can get a jackpot on albion park race 1 like they always do, personally i think whenever there is a jackpot it should stay in the same state it occured at

betfair= the malganaut from what i've 'alledgedly' heard

Bayman if the alledged horse The JuggerMALnaut is the alledged horse
Did they do it to make $$$
OR
Did some jealous people out there do it to stuff up my LATE MAL tip

Also I dont like Jackpots [sorry JJ]
There is so much $$$ invested in P4s and Trebs/Quads etc that thier
should be a dividend irrespective on that particular race
There should be a winner to every outcome.
For instance I take a P4 ONLY if I like that particular race, when its
jackpotted to another race it may be a race I am not interested in

I'm Sure the F4 investments on last nights race when only 3 runners finished were Refunded and NOT Jackpotted as Bayman suggests. I agree there should have been a dividend declared with any other runner for 4th but their rules must have obligated them not to declare a dividend.
.. There are 2 ways of looking at your thought on whether there should be Jackpots or not.
1/ If you have a Bet and dont select the numbers in the correct order, you LOSE and shouldn't expect anything back despite No one else winning.
2/ why should some one else Like Me, get Inflated dividends by betting on Jackpot races when i didn't contribute any money originally to the pool in the Race that Jackpotted?

The Fact is that there are Jackpots and its up to the punters to take Advantage of it or Dont. Rules change all the time in Buissness, sport, punting etc, and the people who adapt quicker will be more successful than those that stay idle and whinge.

I Punt to make money and it is a lot easier to do that by Betting into a pool thats paying back 120% (This % varies considerably, depending on the size of the jackpot and pool size) than into a pool thats paying back 75-80% like they do on a norMAL F4 Race.

There are many Inconsistencies in payouts between different Bet types and by different tabs.
eg. commission % varies on different bet types.
.... Trifectas pay any order where as First 4s Jackpot.
.... Trebles on Unitab Pay 1st, 1st and 2nd or 3rd or Any in order to get a winner where as Quaddies on S/Tab Jackpot.
An Example of Unfairness is the Following situation. WA combine with VIC with Quaddie pools. Gawler Dogs Quaddie Jackpots Tuesday afternoon so WA Punters get nothing Back obviously BUT DO NOT get the Opportunity to Bet on the Jackpot as the Pool Jackpots to Angle Park Wednesday Mornings and only the VIC Tab bets on this meeting as it is TOO Early for WA tab to Bet on this meeting so WA punters DON"T have an opportunity to get their money Back unless they have a VIC account. Same thing occurs with NZ Gallops from time to time.
There are numerous things that are unfair in our eyes BUT its up to us whether we Bet or not under these rules.
There is now plenty of Tabs and Bet types to choose from now so my advice is to select the Tab and Bet type that best suits YOU and Go for itand Dont get DISTRACTED by things you CANT Control.

[mal]

mal i'll answer your top 2 ?'s they wont pay any other runner for 4th so they can get a jackpot on albion park race 1 like they always do, personally i think whenever there is a jackpot it should stay in the same state it occured at

betfair= the malganaut from what i've 'alledgedly' heard

Bayman if the alledged horse The JuggerMALnaut is the alledged horse
Did they do it to make $$$
OR
Did some jealous people out there do it to stuff up my LATE MAL tip

Also I dont like Jackpots [sorry JJ]
There is so much $$$ invested in P4s and Trebs/Quads etc that thier
should be a dividend irrespective on that particular race
There should be a winner to every outcome.
For instance I take a P4 ONLY if I like that particular race, when its
jackpotted to another race it may be a race I am not interested in

I'm Sure the F4 investments on last nights race when only 3 runners finished were Refunded and NOT Jackpotted as Bayman suggests. I agree there should have been a dividend declared with any other runner for 4th but their rules must have obligated them not to declare a dividend.
.. There are 2 ways of looking at your thought on whether there should be Jackpots or not.
1/ If you have a Bet and dont select the numbers in the correct order, you LOSE and shouldn't expect anything back despite No one else winning.
2/ why should some one else Like Me, get Inflated dividends by betting on Jackpot races when i didn't contribute any money originally to the pool in the Race that Jackpotted?

The Fact is that there are Jackpots and its up to the punters to take Advantage of it or Dont. Rules change all the time in Buissness, sport, punting etc, and the people who adapt quicker will be more successful than those that stay idle and whinge.

I Punt to make money and it is a lot easier to do that by Betting into a pool thats paying back 120% (This % varies considerably, depending on the size of the jackpot and pool size) than into a pool thats paying back 75-80% like they do on a norMAL F4 Race.

There are many Inconsistencies in payouts between different Bet types and by different tabs.
eg. commission % varies on different bet types.
.... Trifectas pay any order where as First 4s Jackpot.
.... Trebles on Unitab Pay 1st, 1st and 2nd or 3rd or Any in order to get a winner where as Quaddies on S/Tab Jackpot.
An Example of Unfairness is the Following situation. WA combine with VIC with Quaddie pools. Gawler Dogs Quaddie Jackpots Tuesday afternoon so WA Punters get nothing Back obviously BUT DO NOT get the Opportunity to Bet on the Jackpot as the Pool Jackpots to Angle Park Wednesday Mornings and only the VIC Tab bets on this meeting as it is TOO Early for WA tab to Bet on this meeting so WA punters DON"T have an opportunity to get their money Back unless they have a VIC account. Same thing occurs with NZ Gallops from time to time.
There are numerous things that are unfair in our eyes BUT its up to us whether we Bet or not under these rules.
There is now plenty of Tabs and Bet types to choose from now so my advice is to select the Tab and Bet type that best suits YOU and Go for itand Dont get DISTRACTED by things you CANT Control.

Well put JJ
That race was a refund where only 3 horses finished

Imagine if someone took P4 the winner/field/filed/field for $1 and invested $504
Imagine his mate having $500 the win on the same horse that won

$500 win at $2-60 = $1300
$504 p4 was a refund = **** ALL [you would be livid[
The trifecta paid $1759 in that race [winner /f/f = $72 !!!!!!!]

Still cannot believe they did pay on any runner for 4th and pay a dividend

[mal]

GAWLER THAT RACE
-----------------------
I am still puzzled
We had a race where only 3 horses finished last night at Gawler
It was correctly called as a race
But as only 3 horses finished the race the pick 4 was abandoned
WHATS WRONG WITH PAYING 1-2-3 and any number for 4th ????
I just cannot work out the logic.

BETFAIR SKULLDUGGERY
------------------------

Word is there was a suspicious race last week at the trots
An amazing set of odds were offered in a race arousing considerable conjecture.
No other details
G do you know anything ?

___________________________________________________________________________
LATE MAL
----------

R1-7 SMASHING SAMPRAS[$5-50]
No The JuggerMALnaut in this, drawn for a cosy run and will be right in this
EW [PLACE special]

R2-8 ZED [$3-50]
likely to get a good run through, sure to go very close
EW [ PLACE special]

R5-1 CARNIVAL ROSE [$2-80]
at last a decent draw
EW

Try EW all of those, they should all be there at the finish
_____________________________________________________________________________

OTHER RACE COMMENTS
-----------------------

R3-6 PLACE
R4-1 PLACE
R6-3 EW
R7-7 WIN
R8-10 WIN
R9-7 PLACE
R10-8 PLACE


BARRIER 10 1800M
---------------------
There are some favoured runners drawn barrier 10 at the bogeybayman barrier

R2-10[$3-50] BAKERANDTHEbayMAN poor odds must be a risk
R3-10 [$3-50] BAD BOY DONALD worst price Ive seen this year simply can not win
R4-10 [$4] BAD BOY NITRO might win but needs to put in a herculian performance
R6-10[$2-20] BROTHER MOON if they drive PROPERLY in this is bad odds

All the above are good horses but beware the BogeyBAYMAN barrier
If G and DUTCHY can lay these on Betfair at similar odds, I think there is $$$ to be made

LATEMAL RESULTS
-----------------

R1-7 EW 2nd $1-60
R2-8 EW 3rd $1-40
R5-1 EW 1st $1-80 + $1-30

Very minute profits, my apologies
All as per usual paid worse than the paper put up AGAIN.
MAYZ + MAL are going well for the Million $$$$ challenge
BAYMAN has got the million already

The barrier 10 1800m risks that were in the market
all 4 pacers lose [the BAYMANBOGEY barrier]

BAYMAN tipped a very cheap treble in his picks tonight.
For anyone who got it, it would have Paid a lot more if I didnt get it

[mal]

GAWLER THAT RACE
-----------------------
I am still puzzled
We had a race where only 3 horses finished last night at Gawler
It was correctly called as a race
But as only 3 horses finished the race the pick 4 was abandoned
WHATS WRONG WITH PAYING 1-2-3 and any number for 4th ????
I just cannot work out the logic.

BETFAIR SKULLDUGGERY
------------------------

Word is there was a suspicious race last week at the trots
An amazing set of odds were offered in a race arousing considerable conjecture.
No other details
G do you know anything ?

___________________________________________________________________________
LATE MAL
----------

R1-7 SMASHING SAMPRAS[$5-50]
No The JuggerMALnaut in this, drawn for a cosy run and will be right in this
EW [PLACE special]

R2-8 ZED [$3-50]
likely to get a good run through, sure to go very close
EW [ PLACE special]

R5-1 CARNIVAL ROSE [$2-80]
at last a decent draw
EW

Try EW all of those, they should all be there at the finish
_____________________________________________________________________________

OTHER RACE COMMENTS
-----------------------

R3-6 PLACE
R4-1 PLACE
R6-3 EW
R7-7 WIN
R8-10 WIN
R9-7 PLACE
R10-8 PLACE


BARRIER 10 1800M
---------------------
There are some favoured runners drawn barrier 10 at the bogeybayman barrier

R2-10[$3-50] BAKERANDTHEbayMAN poor odds must be a risk
R3-10 [$3-50] BAD BOY DONALD worst price Ive seen this year simply can not win
R4-10 [$4] BAD BOY NITRO might win but needs to put in a herculian performance
R6-10[$2-20] BROTHER MOON if they drive PROPERLY in this is bad odds

All the above are good horses but beware the BogeyBAYMAN barrier
If G and DUTCHY can lay these on Betfair at similar odds, I think there is $$$ to be made

LATEMAL RESULTS
-----------------

R1-7 EW 2nd $1-60
R2-8 EW 3rd $1-40
R5-1 EW 1st $1-80 + $1-30

Very minute profits, my apologies
All as per usual paid worse than the paper put up AGAIN.
MAYZ + MAL are going well for the Million $$$$ challenge
BAYMAN has got the million already

The barrier 10 1800m risks that were in the market
all 4 pacers lose [the BAYMANBOGEY barrier]

BAYMAN tipped a very cheap treble in his picks tonight.
For anyone who got it, it would have Paid a lot more if I didnt get it


MALS BLACKBOOKERS
---------------------
R4-6 DEEP POCKETS when it gets a draw get on, a fiesty 2nd
R4-10 BAD BOY NITRO 3 wide a long way from barrier 10 over 1800m still ran 3rd

[bayman]

jj & mal, i stand corrected by the non jackpot race it was just what was said on the radio although he did say 'i think it jackpots', anyway my point of when they have jackpots remains the same which is why does a trots race that happens anywhere in australia jackpot onto albion park race 1 on a saturday ? as i said it should be jackpotting onto the same state of the jackpot race

[jackpot jim]

mal i'll answer your top 2 ?'s they wont pay any other runner for 4th so they can get a jackpot on albion park race 1 like they always do, personally i think whenever there is a jackpot it should stay in the same state it occured at

betfair= the malganaut from what i've 'alledgedly' heard

Bayman if the alledged horse The JuggerMALnaut is the alledged horse
Did they do it to make $$$
OR
Did some jealous people out there do it to stuff up my LATE MAL tip

Also I dont like Jackpots [sorry JJ]
There is so much $$$ invested in P4s and Trebs/Quads etc that thier
should be a dividend irrespective on that particular race
There should be a winner to every outcome.
For instance I take a P4 ONLY if I like that particular race, when its
jackpotted to another race it may be a race I am not interested in

I'm Sure the F4 investments on last nights race when only 3 runners finished were Refunded and NOT Jackpotted as Bayman suggests. I agree there should have been a dividend declared with any other runner for 4th but their rules must have obligated them not to declare a dividend.
.. There are 2 ways of looking at your thought on whether there should be Jackpots or not.
1/ If you have a Bet and dont select the numbers in the correct order, you LOSE and shouldn't expect anything back despite No one else winning.
2/ why should some one else Like Me, get Inflated dividends by betting on Jackpot races when i didn't contribute any money originally to the pool in the Race that Jackpotted?

The Fact is that there are Jackpots and its up to the punters to take Advantage of it or Dont. Rules change all the time in Buissness, sport, punting etc, and the people who adapt quicker will be more successful than those that stay idle and whinge.

I Punt to make money and it is a lot easier to do that by Betting into a pool thats paying back 120% (This % varies considerably, depending on the size of the jackpot and pool size) than into a pool thats paying back 75-80% like they do on a norMAL F4 Race.

There are many Inconsistencies in payouts between different Bet types and by different tabs.
eg. commission % varies on different bet types.
.... Trifectas pay any order where as First 4s Jackpot.
.... Trebles on Unitab Pay 1st, 1st and 2nd or 3rd or Any in order to get a winner where as Quaddies on S/Tab Jackpot.
An Example of Unfairness is the Following situation. WA combine with VIC with Quaddie pools. Gawler Dogs Quaddie Jackpots Tuesday afternoon so WA Punters get nothing Back obviously BUT DO NOT get the Opportunity to Bet on the Jackpot as the Pool Jackpots to Angle Park Wednesday Mornings and only the VIC Tab bets on this meeting as it is TOO Early for WA tab to Bet on this meeting so WA punters DON"T have an opportunity to get their money Back unless they have a VIC account. Same thing occurs with NZ Gallops from time to time.
There are numerous things that are unfair in our eyes BUT its up to us whether we Bet or not under these rules.
There is now plenty of Tabs and Bet types to choose from now so my advice is to select the Tab and Bet type that best suits YOU and Go for itand Dont get DISTRACTED by things you CANT Control.

Well put JJ
That race was a refund where only 3 horses finished

Imagine if someone took P4 the winner/field/filed/field for $1 and invested $504
Imagine his mate having $500 the win on the same horse that won

$500 win at $2-60 = $1300
$504 p4 was a refund = f*** ALL [you would be livid[
The trifecta paid $1759 in that race [winner /f/f = $72 !!!!!!!]

Still cannot believe they did pay on any runner for 4th and pay a dividend

GEE Bayman, Anyone that would take a First 4 for $504 with the Fav one out with the Field in that Race would be a Serious Mug as the Pool in that Race was only a Little over a $1000 from memorey (They deleted the Pool after the race).

[jackpot jim]

jj & mal, i stand corrected by the non jackpot race it was just what was said on the radio although he did say 'i think it jackpots', anyway my point of when they have jackpots remains the same which is why does a trots race that happens anywhere in australia jackpot onto albion park race 1 on a saturday ? as i said it should be jackpotting onto the same state of the jackpot race

Of Course they Should Bayman, They do that in WA and VIC and NSW BUT we are talking about LUNITAB here and they just care about looking after there own (Qld Punters that is).
Its all about Getting the MAXIMUM Pool size for their Jackpots and I Have to Admit that Since they have had it Regularly on BT R1 the pools have been Quite LARGE compared to the Pool sizes they used to get when they Kept Shifting it Around, usually on a Feature race, whether it was in SA, VIC, NSW or QLD, on FRI, SAT or SUNDAY. BT R1 is usually around about 4.45 - 5.00 pm SA time which is Prime Time for punters as the Gallops are just finishing and they load up on the Jackpot trying to get out of the Shit.